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They do, but the routers aren’t all that great. I buy my own modem and router because I don’t want to pay $10 a month/$120 a year.
At that price I would also buy (and probably should because I have a Huawei all-in-one :D ) but here it is included (it has to be, it is also the FTTH modem, telephone and TV device.
 
Nothing stands out about this one...Netgear AX1800 router is currently $97 at Amazon. This is clearly a sponsored piece...
 
It is compatible with the entire Linksys Velop line, and can be used in addition to any Linksys mesh product to amplify WiFi coverage, either as a primary router or secondary node.

Oh, this is awesome! I am finishing the basement and didn't want to spend $400 on another MX5 Velop to extend my MX10 system. This is perfect!!
 
My router is 5 years old. This got my interest since it's an improvement in pretty much all regards (it does have one fewer USB port, but I was only using 1 anyway). Then I discovered you can get a student discount of 25% off (verified through studentbeans)... SOLD!
 
I wish Apple still made Airport routers. I've had Linksys, Sitecom, TP-Link, and Asus routers, but none of them are as stable as the latest Airport Extreme. The coverage is not great by 2020 standards, but it's incredibly stable and super-easy to configure. Sooner or later, I need to replace it, but since Apple doesn't seem to care about WiFi 6 in their MacBook line-up, I couldn’t care less.

I do have a Linksys Velop 4-node system and it was aweful at first, incredibly unstable, nodes going offline daily. I saw on a forum somewhere to fix the problem by disabling node steering. Since I did that it's been rock solid with zero problems. I guess whatever algorithm they use for node steering is not awesome.
 
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I wish Apple still made Airport routers. I've had Linksys, Sitecom, TP-Link, and Asus routers, but none of them are as stable as the latest Airport Extreme. The coverage is not great by 2020 standards, but it's incredibly stable and super-easy to configure. Sooner or later, I need to replace it, but since Apple doesn't seem to care about WiFi 6 in their MacBook line-up, I couldn’t care less.

Amen.
 
The increase from 5GHz to 6GHz doesn’t actually make a lot of difference when penetrating walls. What’s important is that with 6e you get 9 channels of 160MHz width (2 in 5GHz + 7 in 6GHz) compared to just 2 channels in 5GHz. If you live in a congested area that would be a huge difference.
Unless you have to, I would wait to buy WiFi 6 home router until WiFi 6E is supported.
Does WiFi 6E include hardware changes from WiFi 6? I vaguely remember the early days of 802.11ac where companies were shipping routers marketed as 802.11ac-compatible when the wireless standard/specification hadn't been finalized (or something like that), but it was all considered kosher since a firmware update would get it up to standard or because it was clear the specs wouldn't change from the draft version. I don't remember the specifics but I'm just wondering if a similar situation will happen with 802.11ax.
 
At that price I would also buy (and probably should because I have a Huawei all-in-one :D ) but here it is included (it has to be, it is also the FTTH modem, telephone and TV device.

Xstream? 😜 Which plan?

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Does WiFi 6E include hardware changes from WiFi 6? I vaguely remember the early days of 802.11ac where companies were shipping routers marketed as 802.11ac-compatible when the wireless standard/specification hadn't been finalized (or something like that), but it was all considered kosher since a firmware update would get it up to standard or because it was clear the specs wouldn't change from the draft version. I don't remember the specifics but I'm just wondering if a similar situation will happen with 802.11ax.
Unfortunately WiFi 6E requires routers to have the latest chipset. Broadcom has a number of chips for 6E access points. I’d think the router/access point manufacturers would be able to deliver products to market this fall:


Enterprise 6 GHz Wi-Fi AP Solutions

  • BCM43694 — 4x4 Dual Band Wi-Fi 6E SoC with 160-MHz Channel Support
  • BCM43693 — 3x3 Tri-Band Wi-Fi 6E SoC with 80-MHz Channel Support
  • BCM43692 — 2x2 Tri-Band Wi-Fi 6E SoC with 80-MHz Channel Support
  • BCM47622 — Dual 2x2 Wi-Fi 6E SoC with Arm Processor

Residential 6 GHz Wi-Fi AP Solutions

  • BCM43684 — 4x4 Wi-Fi 6E SoC with 160-MHz Channel Support
  • BCM6710 — 3x3 Wi-Fi 6E SoC with 80-MHz Channel Support
  • BCM6705 — 2x2 Wi-Fi 6E SoC with 80-MHz Channel Support
  • BCM6755 — Dual 2x2 Wi-Fi 6E SoC with Arm Processor
Not sure when the first 6E client devices will be available, but I’m not betting on iPhone 12.
 
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Unfortunately WiFi 6E requires routers to have the latest chipset. Broadcom has a number of chips for 6E access points. I’d think the router/access point manufacturers would be able to deliver products to market this fall:


Enterprise 6 GHz Wi-Fi AP Solutions

  • BCM43694 — 4x4 Dual Band Wi-Fi 6E SoC with 160-MHz Channel Support
  • BCM43693 — 3x3 Tri-Band Wi-Fi 6E SoC with 80-MHz Channel Support
  • BCM43692 — 2x2 Tri-Band Wi-Fi 6E SoC with 80-MHz Channel Support
  • BCM47622 — Dual 2x2 Wi-Fi 6E SoC with Arm Processor

Residential 6 GHz Wi-Fi AP Solutions

  • BCM43684 — 4x4 Wi-Fi 6E SoC with 160-MHz Channel Support
  • BCM6710 — 3x3 Wi-Fi 6E SoC with 80-MHz Channel Support
  • BCM6705 — 2x2 Wi-Fi 6E SoC with 80-MHz Channel Support
  • BCM6755 — Dual 2x2 Wi-Fi 6E SoC with Arm Processor
Not sure when the first 6E client devices will be available, but I’m not betting on iPhone 12.

Thank you!

Will normal Wi-Fi 6 in some phones right now be compatible with WiFi 6E routers ? Guessing so.
 
Give the Ubiquiti products a try. They take some configuration, but then just work.
This is spot-on: my Unifi gateway, switch, and AP are all now on about 6 months of uptime – rock solid. Setup, however, is nothing like an apple product.
 
Thank you!

Will normal Wi-Fi 6 in some phones right now be compatible with WiFi 6E routers ? Guessing so.
You’re welcome 🙂

Yes, all WiFi 6 devices are compatible with WiFi 6E routers. 6E is a superset of 6, it takes the current Wifi 6 standards and adds an additional frequency band (6 GHz).

Similarly, 6E devices are compatible with WiFi 6 routers, but they’ll only perform like a WiFi 6 device. 6E devices require a 6E router in order to use the new 6GHz band.
 
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You’re welcome 🙂

Yes, all WiFi 6 devices are compatible with WiFi 6E routers. 6E is a superset of 6, it takes the current Wifi 6 standards and adds an additional frequency band (6 GHz).

Similarly, 6E devices are compatible with WiFi 6 routers, but they’ll only perform like a WiFi 6 device. 6E devices require a 6E router in order to use the new 6GHz band.

Cool. Thanks.
 
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who buys dedicated wifi routers anymore? i just use the internet router from comcast. otherwise, every time there's a problem with the internet connection, comcast blames it on the wifi router and wants me to plug my device directly into the router to begin debugging.
 
I wish Apple still made Airport routers. I've had Linksys, Sitecom, TP-Link, and Asus routers, but none of them are as stable as the latest Airport Extreme. The coverage is not great by 2020 standards, but it's incredibly stable and super-easy to configure. Sooner or later, I need to replace it, but since Apple doesn't seem to care about WiFi 6 in their MacBook line-up, I couldn’t care less.
I agree - I like the AirPort Extreme too. Fortunately I have two for extension and strength around my property so if one dies I will remove one from the Wi-Fi over Ethernet extension.
 
Tim Cook scrapped the AirPort line for the same reason Steve Jobs scrapped Apple's line of printers. They were a commodity product in a saturated market where they couldn't offer a unique enough experience, and they didn't sell enough of them to justify further development.

I agree that this is why they did it, but with wifi, this is a case where the market has shifted in an unexpected manner in the meantime, and Apple has really missed out. Wifi is now all about ubiquitous mesh networks that are dead simple to set up. This is why Apple has chosen eero mesh products to sell in their stores.

What would have been a much better solution, IMO, would be for Apple to integrate their own mesh system into their HomePods, including a HomePod mini. Priced correctly, this would drive the sales of HomePods, and give people an option in this market instead of Amazon and Google.

As a result, I’m ending up with both HomePods and Google Nest devices in many rooms of the house, instead of a single device from Apple.
 
With all the ISPs "offering" the router I wonder how much do these stuff sells nowadays...

Do ISPs in the USA also provide everything?

"Offer" is a funny term here. They "rent" a Wi-Fi router to you which is usually 1 step behind the new standard. The ISP has control over it if they like. The configurable options are usually pretty dumbed down. And, part of "offer" is that your Wi-Fi router provides connections for the larger community of ISP users as a public Wi-Fi node.

Most tech savvy people here in the USA opt to buy their own routers and cable modems in order to have better control over their personal networks and not give all of their money to a company like Comcast.
 
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