Yes, you currently have the following options for hot corners.
The default Expose button the keyboard launches Mission Control, but CTRL + Expose button shows all windows of current app.
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Lion: Assigning Apps to All Desktops in Mission Control
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Yes, you currently have the following options for hot corners.
The default Expose button the keyboard launches Mission Control, but CTRL + Expose button shows all windows of current app.
-Kevin
You can do that in the following way:
On your current screen have the App or Window you want to move.
Go to Mission Control mode.
Select and hold on the App or Window you want to move and drag it to the Desktop of choice.
Future is gearing towards Consumer only OS
As a real Professional Mac user since 1987 it pisses me off that Apple is only thinking of the consumer market and forgetting some of us are Pro's.
After upgrading (Really?) to Lion, I open Illustrator CS5 and it keeps crashing. What does a Power User do? Look for the com.adobe.illustrator preference in the Home folder... But where the hell is it? Like a consumer is going to mess with the folder and screw up the whole OS... Yeah, right... :roll eyes:
It bothers me that some features are set by default. Like the stupid move content in the direction of the finger... Apple ass-umes that you have a mac book and a track pad or a magic mouse. I don't... Luckily I was able to turn the thing off...
I also have 2 monitors. Most things are designed for just one. Again, thinking of iMacs and Mac Books but then they want to sell u an overpriced Mac Display but the dual monitor support is crippled.
I was really looking forward to AutoSave. Great, but it only works with Apple Apps. Doesn't work with any Adobe or non-Apple stuff... Bad, and sort of false advertising.
I like some of the features but others are just useless for people like me, who use the computer to work...
As a real Professional Mac user since 1987 it pisses me off that Apple is only thinking of the consumer market and forgetting some of us are Pro's.
After upgrading (Really?) to Lion, I open Illustrator CS5 and it keeps crashing. What does a Power User do? Look for the com.adobe.illustrator preference in the Home folder... But where the hell is it? Like a consumer is going to mess with the folder and screw up the whole OS... Yeah, right... :roll eyes:
It bothers me that some features are set by default. Like the stupid move content in the direction of the finger... Apple ass-umes that you have a mac book and a track pad or a magic mouse. I don't... Luckily I was able to turn the thing off...
I also have 2 monitors. Most things are designed for just one. Again, thinking of iMacs and Mac Books but then they want to sell u an overpriced Mac Display but the dual monitor support is crippled.
I was really looking forward to AutoSave. Great, but it only works with Apple Apps. Doesn't work with any Adobe or non-Apple stuff... Bad, and sort of false advertising.
I like some of the features but others are just useless for people like me, who use the computer to work...
Awesome! Thank you
Workflow within photoshop will be fine now, however I still feel that an option to ungroup windows is necessary, a lot of us multitask and switch between applications (photoshop, illustrator & indesign).
It also works just as it previously did for me. As long as there is already a "space" available, you can just drag a window to a side and after a delay the screen moves into that space and you can plop the window there.
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Boot from your SL partition or Clone!
ppdix said:As a real Professional Mac user since 1987 it pisses me off that Apple is only thinking of the consumer market and forgetting some of us are Pro's.
After upgrading (Really?) to Lion, I open Illustrator CS5 and it keeps crashing. What does a Power User do? Look for the com.adobe.illustrator preference in the Home folder... But where the hell is it? Like a consumer is going to mess with the folder and screw up the whole OS... Yeah, right... :roll eyes:
It bothers me that some features are set by default. Like the stupid move content in the direction of the finger... Apple ass-umes that you have a mac book and a track pad or a magic mouse. I don't... Luckily I was able to turn the thing off...
I also have 2 monitors. Most things are designed for just one. Again, thinking of iMacs and Mac Books but then they want to sell u an overpriced Mac Display but the dual monitor support is crippled.
I was really looking forward to AutoSave. Great, but it only works with Apple Apps. Doesn't work with any Adobe or non-Apple stuff... Bad, and sort of false advertising.
I like some of the features but others are just useless for people like me, who use the computer to work...
Boot from your SL partition or Clone!
I acn see myself getting used to this new way of doing things. However, I'm still waiting to see if all the apps I use are lion compatible. This weekend, when I have more time, I'll do the upgrade.
Down swiping with three fingers does this much more quickly. (unless you are using a mouse, which in that case I guess hot corners is a necessity)
Ditto. I really like the new system, with multiple desktops up top, I can easily move apps and windows from one to the other. I don't get confused about going in clockwise or counter-clockwise order. And, the new ability to assign desktops from the dock saves opening SysPrefs and fiddling in there for two minutes. Much better implementation all around.
Full screen apps getting their own desktop automatically is just awesome.
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As a "real professional Mac user since 1987" you should have known better than to upgrade to a dot-zero OS on release day when you rely on third party applications to get your job done. There are always compatibility issues with pro apps after a major OS upgrade, there is no reason this should have been a surprise for you.
I'm sure they'll remember to bury new features where no one can find them in the next OS upgrade. It really makes no sense to make them accessible by default. There might be someone out there using old equipment who could be grievously inconvenienced by having to make 4 clicks on their mouse.
I use two monitors as well (non-Apple monitors on a Mac Mini), I also have a MacBook Pro that I use on its own. Full screen apps are awesome on the MacBook Pro. Swiping back and forth from one app to another is remarkably efficient on a laptop, no doubt about it.
On my desktop, with dual monitors, I don't use the full screen app feature. It doesn't make sense in that scenario. Instead, I open up Mission Control and assign multiple desktops. Each desktop supports both monitors. I can then swipe back and forth between desktops running multiple apps on my trackpad.
This is again, remarkably efficient. Anyone who uses their dual screen Mac for multitasking between apps will love it. Yes, it is designed with the trackpad in mind--which is available for your desktop, and will work alongside your mouse. The preference for multitouch trackpads was made quite evident in all of the pre-launch publicity. If you refuse to use one, then you won't see these benefits. That's your decision to make.
False advertising? When did Apple make the claim that autosave would work out of the "box" with anything other than their apps? The API's were made available for all developers to use. If Adobe or others haven't taken advantage of that yet, you surely can't blame Apple. Considering that Adobe hasn't yet updated their very popular (on the Mac) pro apps to support Lion at all, this shouldn't be much of a surprise. Adobe is a software company. It's their job to write and update their applications as needed, which they have apparently not done yet.
I like some of the features but others are just useless for people like me, who use the computer to work...
None of the features are "useless" for people who use their computer to work. There are lots of different ways to do work on computers, and lots of different computers to do work on. You are simply frustrated because you updated your OS before your work apps were updated and are venting that frustration in the wrong direction.
For your workflow, using dual screens, you're right that full-screen apps don't do much of anything for you. Instead of trying to shoe-horn that feature into your workflow (which it was clearly not designed for) try taking advantage of some of the other new things. Multiple desktops in Mission Control is phenomenal. Yes, you'll need a trackpad to really benefit from it, but I promise--once you try it, you'll never go back.
I'm personally frustrated right now because we use Pro Tools on our studio Mac Pro. There's no way it's ready to work with Lion yet. Being able to swipe from one desktop running PT to another running our email, calendars and web browser, to another running our iWork apps will be a huge help for us. Being able to Airdrop files to artists MacBooks in the studio will be a huge help as well. Unfortunately, we have to wait to use Lion at work. Fortunately I don't have those issues for my home office setup or my laptop.
As a real Professional Mac user since 1987 it pisses me off that Apple is only thinking of the consumer market and forgetting some of us are Pro's.
After upgrading (Really?) to Lion, I open Illustrator CS5 and it keeps crashing. What does a Power User do? Look for the com.adobe.illustrator preference in the Home folder... But where the hell is it? Like a consumer is going to mess with the folder and screw up the whole OS... Yeah, right... :roll eyes:
It bothers me that some features are set by default. Like the stupid move content in the direction of the finger... Apple ass-umes that you have a mac book and a track pad or a magic mouse. I don't... Luckily I was able to turn the thing off...
I also have 2 monitors. Most things are designed for just one. Again, thinking of iMacs and Mac Books but then they want to sell u an overpriced Mac Display but the dual monitor support is crippled.
I was really looking forward to AutoSave. Great, but it only works with Apple Apps. Doesn't work with any Adobe or non-Apple stuff... Bad, and sort of false advertising.
I like some of the features but others are just useless for people like me, who use the computer to work...
Yes, the usual "older times were better" rant. Come on! The ONLY resonable point you make is about bad multiple monitor support (and I sure hope Apple will improve it). You other points:
New scrolling - you just need to get used to it (or turn it off).
Autosave/Illustrator crashing - is it Apples fault that Adobe did not test the software sufficiently or won't adopt new Apple APIs? When did Adobe advertise that it will support autosave? Or do you expect thing just "magically" to happen?
On the other hand - I can't believe people actually miss the old Expose. The new system is SO much better if you have 40+ windows open like I usually do. With the old Expose you could see all windows at once, but it was impossible to find the one you need. With mission control and application grouping I can locate the windows I need much faster. My only wish for mission control is that it were possible to go to the app-specific windows view (the one you get by Ctl-Expose) from within the general mission control view. This would make selection a particular windows easier. Right now I have to expose, select the app and then do ctl-expose. Better would be - expose, go to the needed app and either do a gesture, or a double click for it to switch to the app-specific expose view.
The problem I have is that I used to have, for example, Pages, set to open in Space 3. When I'd open the application it would always open in Space 3. Now in Lion, if I'm in Space 1, despite previously setting Pages via the method detailed to open in Space 3, it still opens in Space 1. Its getting reet on ma tits! I can't find a way around it.
Same here......except with apps like BBEdit and YummyFTP.
I think Apple messed something up when an app is open.....but doesn't have any open windows. In SL.....opening a new window would take you to the assigned space. In Lion....it doesn't. It opens in whatever space you are in and ignores the assignment. The assignment is still there.....it just ignores it.
-Kevin
OMG, the #1 feature I was waiting for.
Welcome OS X to 1995 when about all virtual desktop implementations had this feature! Finally.
Welcome OS X to 1995 when about all virtual desktop implementations had this feature! Finally.
I hope this is just a bug that they fix, as you've outlined, it isn't doing the logical thing. Looking forward to updates coming along; with any new software bugs are inevitable.
it's not assuming if you have the sales data in front of you that state almost 2/3 of mac's sold are notebooks. or if you have the certain knowledge that every desktop you've sold in the past year+ came equipped with a magic mouse.
as a "pro user" i imagine you would want to buy new hardware fairly frequently, can't get stuck with an antiquated processor, so having outdated peripheries is a short-term issue. and even so, you can't crucify a for-profit company for tailoring their os in such a way that you would be motivated to go out and give them 30 or 70 dollars to get a new mouse or trackpad respectively.
if you've really been around since '87, apple ruthlessly cutting off the peripheries and outputs of the past to force society to use the ones of the future shouldn't surprise you at all. this was the company who killed the floppy disc, they've said that the reason ios doesn't support flash is their strong belief it's on its way out anyway. does their cutting off 20th century mice in their new "post-pc" era really come as a shock? steve's favorite quote is that thing by wayne gretzky about skating to where the puck is going, not where it's been. is there a logical reason why he would impede his mad-dash towards the future just so he down't hurt your individual feelings?
I don't have an outdated mouse or keyboard. I have a Logitech Laser MX with 2 scroll wheels and buttons which you can actually program to speed your work flow and a Microsoft Keyboard that can also be programmed unlike the crappy Aluminum keyboard that came with my Mac Pro.
I am not criticizing Apple for making money, on the contrary, I am thrilled.
I've been a fan for decades but I am just disappointed that they don't put any effort in keeping millions of designers, photographers and videographers that use Mac Pro's updated.
It really bothers me that a consumer iMac has a 2GB video card choice and the Mac Pro's still have 1GB limit. Same goes for PC's which can carry dozens of cheaper and better video cards and Mac Pro's only run a few old models.
And what about design? They refresh Mac Books and iMacs every year but the Mac Pro has had the same oversized, heavy, outdated design since the PowerMac G5 in 2003... That's 8 years of the same box...
I buy what I consider to be the best within my budget and they don't have to have an Apple logo to work on my Mac... For example, I am not gonna spend $999 on a 27-Display when I can buy comparable screens for half the price.
I am using a 32" Vizio LCD TV that costs $400 and it looks amazing and a Samsung 24" Vertical (Apple doesn't even carry a rotating display) and both cost me less than 1 Apple screen and I have 3 times the working area.
It works for me and that's what matters.
I just can't wait for a newly designed Mac Pro that has a better keyboard, a better mouse and a real difference in speed compared to the newest iMacs.
I am not criticizing Apple for making money, on the contrary, I am thrilled.
I've been a fan for decades but I am just disappointed that they don't put any effort in keeping millions of designers, photographers and videographers that use Mac Pro's updated.
It really bothers me that a consumer iMac has a 2GB video card choice and the Mac Pro's still have 1GB limit. Same goes for PC's which can carry dozens of cheaper and better video cards and Mac Pro's only run a few old models.
And what about design? They refresh Mac Books and iMacs every year but the Mac Pro has had the same oversized, heavy, outdated design since the PowerMac G5 in 2003... That's 8 years of the same box...
I buy what I consider to be the best within my budget and they don't have to have an Apple logo to work on my Mac... For example, I am not gonna spend $999 on a 27-Display when I can buy comparable screens for half the price.
I am using a 32" Vizio LCD TV that costs $400 and it looks amazing and a Samsung 24" Vertical (Apple doesn't even carry a rotating display) and both cost me less than 1 Apple screen and I have 3 times the working area.
It works for me and that's what matters.
I just can't wait for a newly designed Mac Pro that has a better keyboard, a better mouse and a real difference in speed compared to the newest iMacs.
i forgot where it is but there is a setting where you choose to either make them stay put or let them change based on the most recently used app. You need to change yours to the other setting.
I don't have an outdated mouse or keyboard. I have a Logitech Laser MX with 2 scroll wheels and buttons which you can actually program to speed your work flow and a Microsoft Keyboard that can also be programmed unlike the crappy Aluminum keyboard that came with my Mac Pro.
I am not criticizing Apple for making money, on the contrary, I am thrilled.
I've been a fan for decades but I am just disappointed that they don't put any effort in keeping millions of designers, photographers and videographers that use Mac Pro's updated.
It really bothers me that a consumer iMac has a 2GB video card choice and the Mac Pro's still have 1GB limit. Same goes for PC's which can carry dozens of cheaper and better video cards and Mac Pro's only run a few old models.
And what about design? They refresh Mac Books and iMacs every year but the Mac Pro has had the same oversized, heavy, outdated design since the PowerMac G5 in 2003... That's 8 years of the same box...
I buy what I consider to be the best within my budget and they don't have to have an Apple logo to work on my Mac... For example, I am not gonna spend $999 on a 27-Display when I can buy comparable screens for half the price.
I am using a 32" Vizio LCD TV that costs $400 and it looks amazing and a Samsung 24" Vertical (Apple doesn't even carry a rotating display) and both cost me less than 1 Apple screen and I have 3 times the working area.
It works for me and that's what matters.
I just can't wait for a newly designed Mac Pro that has a better keyboard, a better mouse and a real difference in speed compared to the newest iMacs.
You might want to look into getting one of the Magic Mouse's or use a Magic Trackpad in combination with your regular mouse. The multitouch makes them programmable out the wazoo. Just download the free BetterTouchTool app. It is crazy how customizable the Magic Mouse and Trackpads are with it. Makes regular programmable mice like the Logitech MX look like a child's toy.
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Having been using it for a couple of days, I think I know what they need to do with Mission Control, to keep all the spaces users happy - just add the ability to toggle between the current view, and a second view that pulls down the desktop thumbnails to take up the full screen.
So maybe just a swipe down to do that (from where you move any window into any other space), and a swipe up to get back to the original view.
And make it possible to get into either view initially.
And with Expose, just add the option to view app windows grouped or ungrouped, and maybe to toggle between the two. Perhaps instead of moving them slightly with a gesture, they could split apart completely.
Having been using it for a couple of days, I think I know what they need to do with Mission Control, to keep all the spaces users happy - just add the ability to toggle between the current view, and a second view that pulls down the desktop thumbnails to take up the full screen.
So maybe just a swipe down to do that (from where you move any window into any other space), and a swipe up to get back to the original view.
And make it possible to get into either view initially.
And with Expose, just add the option to view app windows grouped or ungrouped, and maybe to toggle between the two. Perhaps instead of moving them slightly with a gesture, they could split apart completely.
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Thank god we have this info.
Got it working. Only snag is, everytime I run parallels (on my second screen), I have to go through the process of active in all screens else when I change desktop I lose the second screen too.
I wish they will fix the full screen issue with the second screen going into screen saver.
Thank god we have this info.
Got it working. Only snag is, everytime I run parallels (on my second screen), I have to go through the process of active in all screens else when I change desktop I lose the second screen too.
I wish they will fix the full screen issue with the second screen going into screen saver.