Lion Clean Install Requires Snow Leopard Disk?

Apple has gone crazy with this release?

What happened to user experience and ease of use? C'mon.

 

Uh oh. This is really, really not good.

 

Surely you can't be serious.

 

such an elegant solution /sarcasm

 

About what I’d expect during this transition.

I expect new machines will start to come with a key disc or flash drive (like the Air), which may not have the full Lion (since that’s downloadable) but will take the place of the Snow Leopard disc for a vital purpose: getting the thing to boot when no usable OS is on the internal!

It’s a downloadable OS. Would you expect a new install on a non-bootable drive to not require any media at all? (I do think that will come in future, but there would have to be pretty advanced firmware to make the download happen.) Or would you expect it to require something other than the Snow Leopard disc that you had to have before you bought Lion anyway?

I suppose Apple could have a way to make your own emergency disc “just in case," but almost nobody would do it. So, for now, use Snow Leopard as the emergency disc.

It could be argued that OS’s should not be downloads; that it’s too soon to make that leap. Since I’m not a modem user, I disagree and welcome this (very slightly rough) transition away from coffee coasters!

 

Maybe I'm missing something, but wouldn't the definition of a clean install rule out installing Snow Leopard and the upgrade to Lion? A clean install, in my mind, means installing the OS from scratch on your new system/drive.

 

You're upgrading it wrong.

Side to MacRumors: surreptitious seems like a bit of an overstatement...

 

Wouldn't it make more sense to just have a "Create Install Disk" function built into the OS?

 

For most users (who are not nearly as technically as the average MR poster) that is friendly... er.

I will be doing a clean install of SL before I download Lion.

 

This is just plain stupid. I'm not going to keep an album of previous OS releases on disk because Apple wants to toy around with the Mac App Store.

Isn't the point to move away from physical media?

 

It might not be brilliant, but it works. Just reinstall Snow Leopard and you can download Lion again for free from the Mac App Store with your Apple I.D. Makes sense to me...

 

You only have to do it once, because once Lion is installed, it will put a recovery partition on the hard disk. So you won't need a disc after the initial install.

 

Can't bielieve im hearing this from Apple

I thought the article was on windows for a min


Something needs to be done about that. Fiddly

 

That is ridiculously stupid. How un-apple like

Edit: I had bounced around this and other options in a blog post just yesterday. For instance, Apple could still have physical media only at Apple Stores, or via special order.

I simply can't believe Apple is being this obstinate about being Mac App Store only

 

I just can not believe this.

We'll find a way anyway.

 

mmm



you can do that, or wait for some ISO release, USB install, etc.
From apple or from another respetable source as tpb

 

I remain skeptical of this

 

How about brand new devices? (like next gen MBA or MPro)? Or will these machines host a basic OS chip, from which you can reach the app store.

 

In the developer preview, the way to do a clean install (that I've used for every developer preview) is to create a blank partition, formatted as HFS+, and tell the installer to install Lion there.

 

Steve Jobs doesn't know a thing about Lion. He only cares about iOS.

Yes, you can clean install Lion without Snow Leopard.

 

Slow connection?

 

Not an issue: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1166184

Of course, Jobs solution assumes you don't have a working system, because say, a hard drive crashed.

 

Its not that bad only have to add an xtra step of intallining 2 OS's on a new hard drive instead of 1.

 

This is un-apple like. Come on apple, what's so wrong about physical medias? They can at least provide a USB for those who need it...