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Lion Clean Install Requires Snow Leopard Disk?
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What happens 2 or 3 revisions of the OS down the line? Are we expected to keep our Snow Leopard discs around that long? Also aren't all copies of Snow Leopard "upgrade" copies which require Leopard prior to installing. From personal experience I know this isn't the case, but isn't that the official company stance?
I wonder how many people are really running Leopard though for this to be a problem? I am sure the majority are PPC people, especially for the $29 it cost for SL.
Also, who knows, perhaps Apple will put Leopard and SL on the Mac store if this snowballs out of control. No reason why THEY CANT do that.
Also, who knows, perhaps Apple will put Leopard and SL on the Mac store if this snowballs out of control. No reason why THEY CANT do that.
I can't speak for the final release version, but I have already booted from and installed the developer preview of Lion onto a brand new hard drive and was never asked to insert a Snow Leopard disc.
I'd be willing to bet that within 3 months after release Apple will give in and distribute Lion on physical media as an option. Or at the very least, some sort of bootable DVD or thumb drive. It might come without the entire system, but would have system tools like hard drive repair available as well as a way to get to the App Store to reinstall Lion.
means you have to be booted from a regular (snow) leopard os, in order to install Lion. Not install dvd os.
This is not Work Safe
Apple better get their act together on this or they might piss off the people that have supported them in the past.
HD's can corrupt, TM's can corrupt and I would prefer to install Lion and not have to install SL. Seems redundant and redundancy at Apple isn't taken lightly, but then again we are talking about a 90 billion dollar company.
Maybe costumer service has been tossed out with the baby and the bath water!
Apple better get their act together on this or they might piss off the people that have supported them in the past.
HD's can corrupt, TM's can corrupt and I would prefer to install Lion and not have to install SL. Seems redundant and redundancy at Apple isn't taken lightly, but then again we are talking about a 90 billion dollar company.
Maybe costumer service has been tossed out with the baby and the bath water!
Don't want to be user support when this goes down. 
And Apple stores with people who want Lion but have useless internet access.
I predict the end of DVD on Mac Pro, Steve has spoken and he hates it. Big ass battery is the future. I for one welcome it even as I ponder how I will deal with it. Next big thing will be mac start hold "option" button and tell it to re-install OS apple store not even needed
And Apple stores with people who want Lion but have useless internet access.
I predict the end of DVD on Mac Pro, Steve has spoken and he hates it. Big ass battery is the future. I for one welcome it even as I ponder how I will deal with it. Next big thing will be mac start hold "option" button and tell it to re-install OS apple store not even needed
I thought someone had already found a way to burn a DVD of Lion. The DMG has to be located somewhere on your hard drive after you download it from the App Store.
Target disk mode solves it all, or make a usb boot stick
there are many ways to skin a cat
Just wait and see what next month brings before you get your panties in a twist
problems are there to be solved
At this time in place upgrades leave a lot of detritus behind like the app folder in the dock for one , there are lots more
there are many ways to skin a cat
Just wait and see what next month brings before you get your panties in a twist
problems are there to be solved
At this time in place upgrades leave a lot of detritus behind like the app folder in the dock for one , there are lots more
Of course that is assuming that the reason for the new install isn't a.) your old disk failed b.) that you are upgrading your disk.
I wonder if future macs will include an inbuilt SD card or something of the sort that cannot be removed or written to, that contains the installation disc shipped with the computer. This way if your hard drive dies, you can still recover. This would also allow for the elimination of physical media, yet give us an option for a clean install.
Then i would question how you were downloading Lion in the first place?
And how many times have you actually needed to do a clean install? i know i haven't done one for quite a few years now...
This isn't the way the current BETA works
For those who have the BETA installed, reboot your machine and hold down the N key, you can then boot from the recovery partition, as long as you have access to the internet you can authenticate your appleID and reinstall from a recovery partition.
For those who have the BETA installed, reboot your machine and hold down the N key, you can then boot from the recovery partition, as long as you have access to the internet you can authenticate your appleID and reinstall from a recovery partition.
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I just got a Dell, and it came with an OS recovery disc.
I feel like the world just flipped upside-down. Is Apple serious?
EDIT: What happens if your hard drive fails on a mac that comes preinstalled with Lion? If you replace it, and the new hard drive isn't from Apple, there's no recovery partition, there's no restore partition, and there's no DVD to boot off of...
I feel like the world just flipped upside-down. Is Apple serious?
EDIT: What happens if your hard drive fails on a mac that comes preinstalled with Lion? If you replace it, and the new hard drive isn't from Apple, there's no recovery partition, there's no restore partition, and there's no DVD to boot off of...
I know this is far fetched, but this is Apple afterall
Is there a remote chance that new hardware coming with Lion (new MBAs, Minis) will have some sort of designated SSD just for Lion? The SSD has Lion and in case of a crash, the mac will boot into that, and have options to repair or do a fresh install? Is that even possible?
Is there a remote chance that new hardware coming with Lion (new MBAs, Minis) will have some sort of designated SSD just for Lion? The SSD has Lion and in case of a crash, the mac will boot into that, and have options to repair or do a fresh install? Is that even possible?
I would pay Apple money to just give me a Lion disc/USB.
Why are we making this so hard?
It's honestly such a horrible solution.
It's like a tow truck company telling you that you need to bring your broken car to their office to get it towed ... kinda.
Why are we making this so hard?
It's honestly such a horrible solution.
It's like a tow truck company telling you that you need to bring your broken car to their office to get it towed ... kinda.
Although I am running Snow Leopard, this is just another reason to hate the App Store