Liquid Glass Appreciation Thread

[acethelab]

Liquid Glass is by far the most impressive demonstration of Apple's unique fusion of hardware and software that they've shown to date. People who are needlessly critical simply do not have any understanding of the technical challenges involved to implement UI elements that possess such fluid behavior expressed through these complex digital materials.
Don't forget that on devices that have an A16 chip and newer, there is a literal dedicated unit within the silicon for handling these fluid animations, as the first taste of this was shipped with the 14 Pro.

Obviously there are aspects throughout the OS so far that need to be re-worked or are clearly incomplete but this is not relevant to the technical achievement of the overall implementation. I'm quite excited to see where this goes.

 

[Parowdy]

If Apple doesn't bother catering to those groups, then nothing of value will be lost.

„Those groups“? Apple sees themselves as THE defacto smartphone brand on this planet. And they obviously put at least some thought into the repairability of their phones, as they should, because they will break, no matter what marketing mumbo jumbo they are on about their „toughest glass ever“ every year. People are (still) saving up around the world to get iPhones, but having the screen replaced for almost half of the purchase price isn’t something everyone will be able (or comfortable) to do, for numerous reasons.
The great thing about the pre 26 design is how it goes with every condition the phone is in and basically every case and use case.
This new design is so focused on looking a certain way, that the desired effect will be lost the moment Apples predetermined conditions aren’t met anymore.
Meaning it’s going to look from worse to bad on anything but a pristine, big screen and small bezel phone with a genuine screen.
Honestly, to me you sound very snobby right now if you really can’t think of any reasonable situation in which someone doesn’t want or can shell out 300$ to replace their smartphone screen by Apple.
„Those groups“… f you talking about.

 

[pinkkie]

I wonder how it will run on iPhone SE. It seems to be deliberately designed to run and look like crap on non-ProMotion displays.

 

[nfl46]

I think it looks great. Obviously it needs some tweaking to help with readability but I can see the direction Apple is going in with it.

 

[AlixSPQR]

Thank the Almighty for Reduce Transparency. But I still like the idea and consistency over platforms.

 

[sunapple]

I wonder how it will run on iPhone SE. It seems to be deliberately designed to run and look like crap on non-ProMotion displays.

I don’t think this “unified” look will look the same on every iPhone. Curious about it.

 

[techyOS]

I wish there was more color. It seems desaturared?

i believe that’s just the consequence of macrumors converting the display p3 screenshot to srgb, still the same amount of saturation as before

 

[GioGiusi]

It's like appreciating a pug. It's gotta be cute to someone.

No it's like appreciating great design, and ultimately it has to be hated by someone, as proven by every previous design change ever made.

 

[GioGiusi]

it's exhausting to read on glass

Not for people with functioning eyes. But I'm 100% positive that contrast will be improved over the beta. The first iOS 7 beta lacked a ton of contrast too.

 

[GioGiusi]

I don’t think this “unified” look will look the same on every iPhone. Curious about it.

It will look good on nearly every iPhone, because nearly every iPhone (including every iPhone currently for sale) have big bright beautiful OLED displays.

 

[GioGiusi]

Liquid Glass is by far the most impressive demonstration of Apple's unique fusion of hardware and software that they've shown to date. People who are needlessly critical simply do not have any understanding of the technical challenges involved to implement UI elements that possess such fluid behavior expressed through these complex digital materials.
Don't forget that on devices that have an A16 chip and newer, there is a literal dedicated unit within the silicon for handling these fluid animations, as the first taste of this was shipped with the 14 Pro.

Obviously there are aspects throughout the OS so far that need to be re-worked or are clearly incomplete but this is not relevant to the technical achievement of the overall implementation. I'm quite excited to see where this goes.

Yep, it's really a shame some people can pick out a single obvious problem that probably won't survive past beta 2, and dismiss the entire technical achievement that is this new HID.

 

[sunapple]

It will look good on nearly every iPhone, because nearly every iPhone (including every iPhone currently for sale) have big bright beautiful OLED displays.

Well apart from that, it might require some processing power to have that rich bubbly effect on user input and movement. I am curious if they will extent the full range of animations to every iPhone or if this will impact performance or battery life negatively.

 

[AgeOfSpiracles]

„Those groups“? Apple sees themselves as THE defacto smartphone brand on this planet. And they obviously put at least some thought into the repairability of their phones, as they should, because they will break, no matter what marketing mumbo jumbo they are on about their „toughest glass ever“ every year. People are (still) saving up around the world to get iPhones, but having the screen replaced for almost half of the purchase price isn’t something everyone will be able (or comfortable) to do, for numerous reasons.
The great thing about the pre 26 design is how it goes with every condition the phone is in and basically every case and use case.
This new design is so focused on looking a certain way, that the desired effect will be lost the moment Apples predetermined conditions aren’t met anymore.
Meaning it’s going to look from worse to bad on anything but a pristine, big screen and small bezel phone with a genuine screen.
Honestly, to me you sound very snobby right now if you really can’t think of any reasonable situation in which someone doesn’t want or can shell out 300$ to replace their smartphone screen by Apple.
„Those groups“… f you talking about.

I could honestly not care less how the UI looks on a busted screen, nor on an unsupported grey market special. But if you are then thankfully, even if it looks worse (which duh, of course it will), it will be just as usable as the current UI. This is a really weird thing to be worried about. Come down off your high horse.

 

[cogzero]

Not for people with functioning eyes. [...]

Around 75% of the global adult population requires some form of visual correction (according to Stat Can, NIH, etc.). Sounds like a market segment to consider when making significant UI changes.

 

[ian-mac]

No it's like appreciating great design, and ultimately it has to be hated by someone, as proven by every previous design change ever made.

Ultimately, great design is only great design when it fully incorporates things like usability and accessibility. Design is much more than what something looks like. So people are rightly cautious to go into full on love-in mode for this. Whilst it does look beautiful in certain scenarios, it ISN'T great design - not yet anyway. It needs a hell of a lot of work.

 

[Polaroid]

They just need to frost it more for certain things, keep the liquid glass for things like folders, UI elements - they already have a frosted element they could use.

It’s early days and I think it will be fixed - I also thing the clear view for icons is a bit faded/flat, shame they didn’t keep the main element of the icon coloured and the rest glass like, coulda looked nice, just to washed out clear…

 

[C7 POWER]

How is this hard to see icons like so many complain about? I still say it’s awesome

 

[AbSoluTc]

How is this hard to see icons like so many complain about? I still say it’s awesome

Looks a mess honestly.

 

[jschu22]

?

It’s sarcasm directed at Apple’s almost complete ignoring of the conversations and the liquidity glass design philosophy. if you don’t use the new backgrounds you could easily forget there’s been any change at all in iMessage.

 

[upandown]

I’m a fan! I personally have no readability issues.

 

[revs]

After watching the Meet Liquid Glass WWDC video I have more confidence it’ll get better before launch.

They mention a lot of the issues people are seeing - so they are aware of it.
- legibility
- not layering glass on glass, etc

Knowing how secretive Apple are, they probably didn’t tell half the teams about the redesign until late, and now they have to rush to fix their parts of the system.

 

[hasanahmad]

if you want to see the furthest along UX for Liquid Glass, its in Safari

 

[boswald]

I think it’s gorgeous and I can’t wait to use it.

 

[Apple247]

„Those groups“? Apple sees themselves as THE defacto smartphone brand on this planet. And they obviously put at least some thought into the repairability of their phones, as they should, because they will break, no matter what marketing mumbo jumbo they are on about their „toughest glass ever“ every year. People are (still) saving up around the world to get iPhones, but having the screen replaced for almost half of the purchase price isn’t something everyone will be able (or comfortable) to do, for numerous reasons.
The great thing about the pre 26 design is how it goes with every condition the phone is in and basically every case and use case.
This new design is so focused on looking a certain way, that the desired effect will be lost the moment Apples predetermined conditions aren’t met anymore.
Meaning it’s going to look from worse to bad on anything but a pristine, big screen and small bezel phone with a genuine screen.
Honestly, to me you sound very snobby right now if you really can’t think of any reasonable situation in which someone doesn’t want or can shell out 300$ to replace their smartphone screen by Apple.
„Those groups“… f you talking about.

You can turn on Reduce Transparency under Accessibility if you find this design incompatible with your economic situation.

 

[dugbug]

I think separating the transparent icons from the concept of liquid glass there is a lot of promise and I’ll give it a shot.

Some of my upfront concerns that I admit are just based on watching the event:
Distracting magnification
Content under safari tab like footer links
Slow and convoluted opening and closing animations
Silly jiggleness for list items like message bubbles