Lodsys Responds to Apple, Files Lawsuits Against App Developers

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001


    Patent holding firm Lodsys today published a series of blog posts revealing that the company has filed suit against App Store developers, accelerating its efforts to extract licensing fees from developers for using in app purchases and upgrade links in their App Store applications. Lodsys had given developers 21 days to negotiate a license before filing suit, but the firm appears to have initiated lawsuits early in order to thwart Apple's efforts to back the developers.
    Lodsys has also disputed Apple's assertion that developers are "undeniably licensed" for the technology by virtue of an existing licensing arrangement between Apple and Lodsys.
    Simultaneous to the blog posting, Lodsys says that is has sent a detailed legal response to Apple, which it has invited the company to publish in its entirety.

    Finally, Lodsys has announced that will reimburse any developer improperly targeted by an infringement notice $1,000 for their troubles, suggesting that firm is confident in its standing and convinced that it will prevail.
    Article Link: Lodsys Responds to Apple, Files Lawsuits Against App Developers
  2. ChazUK macrumors 603


    Feb 3, 2008
    Essex (UK)
    Utter bastards.

    I'm not a fan of this whole thing at all.
  3. Krizoitz macrumors 65816


    Apr 26, 2003
    Tokyo, Japan
    Apple Ninja Lawyers deployed in 3....2...1...
  4. ImNoSuperMan macrumors 65816


    Dec 1, 2005
    I hope these frigging trolls die!

    (Feel free to go cry on your blog/site about people wising for you to die. YDI)
  5. miles01110 macrumors Core


    Jul 24, 2006
    The Ivory Tower (I'm not coming down)
    Hopefully Apple will be able to work it out. As much as I don't like the iOS walled garden, I dislike the precedent of patent trolls stymieing creative development with frivolous lawsuits even more.
  6. chrono1081 macrumors 604


    Jan 26, 2008
    Isla Nublar
    I hope Apple, Google, and whoever else these trolls decide to sue destroy the **** out of Lodsys until they are bankrupt.
  7. hobo.hopkins macrumors 6502a


    Jul 30, 2008
    I really don't like the idea of App Developers being sued in droves. I hope that Apple is correct in it's understanding of any agreements so that the developers won't have to worry.
  8. LastLine macrumors 65816

    Aug 24, 2005
    There's two ways to look at this.

    a) Loadsys are actually write - developers should be responsible. If this is the case, Apple should have caught this and owe the developers their support to negotiate these licenses.


    b) Loadsys are in fact wrong, and will be found to be so, the developers targetted get $1k (small peanuts compared to the stress I'm sure many are feeling in their positions) and again - Apple need to support the devs.
  9. inket macrumors regular


    Dec 23, 2009
  10. Andronicus macrumors 6502a

    Apr 1, 2008
    Lodsys response...

    "Choo wanna go to war?! C'mon. Choo wanna go to war? We take you to war, ok?!"
  11. ridley182 macrumors newbie

    Oct 12, 2010
    The OC
  12. BC2009 macrumors 68000


    Jul 1, 2009
    I hope Apple buries Lodsys in lawsuits of their own and bankrupts these jerks. I know they think that death threats are "so uncool", so I just wish they all contract severe illness and suffer terribly (without actually dying). These parasites do nothing to contribute to society because they don't create anything, they just try to leach off those that do truly create.
  13. jayducharme macrumors 68040


    Jun 22, 2006
    The thick of it
    Why bother? It'd be cheaper for Apple to just buy Lodsys outright.
  14. ouimetnick macrumors 68020


    Aug 28, 2008
    Beverly, Massachusetts
    I thought they were scared of Apple's letter, and decided to bully Android instead?

    Guess not.

    I hope Apple defends their developers and Lodsys get what they are asking for... I hope Lodsys gets drained dry of their crap.

    Patent troll.:mad:
  15. addicted44 macrumors 6502a

    Jun 6, 2005
    How are those two things even remotely related?
  16. mtbgtr macrumors regular

    Nov 12, 2009
    Lodsys doesn't expect to get the $$ from the developers.They want a big pay out from Apple, so they start by f'in off the developers to get Apple in the ring. I don't see any other reason to stir the giant.
  17. AppleDroid macrumors 6502a

    Apr 10, 2011
    Lodsys is counting on Apple paying more money to cover developers because they know app devs cannot afford to get hit with every single patent lawsuit that this will surely open the door to.
  18. WiiDSmoker macrumors 65816


    Sep 15, 2009
    Hermitage, TN
    Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8H7 Safari/6533.18.5)

    Apple (Lodsys) are suing Samsung (developers) over patent infringement.

    You cheer for Apple yet want Lodsys dead.

    Fanboy much?
  19. gnasher729 macrumors P6


    Nov 25, 2005
    That would indeed be the most costly move that Apple could ever make. Hordes of owners of useless patents will start suing developers in the hope of being bought by Apple.

    Do you really think Apple should reward despicable behaviour like this?
  20. benthewraith macrumors 68040


    May 27, 2006
    Miami, FL
    Lodsys is forming a triumvirate by bringing Microsoft, Apple and Google against it. My guess is they're hoping to be paid off. I don't think Apple, Microsoft and Google should settle. I say Apple/MSFT/GOOGLE should drain them dry until Lodsys can no longer pay their lawyers.
  21. qtx43 macrumors 6502a

    Aug 4, 2007
    A thousand dollars is nothing when you need to hire lawyers.
  22. gcoghill macrumors member


    Sep 14, 2008
    This seems like something so basic that Apple's lawyers should have asked when they were negotiating the deal: "This covers usage by our 3rd party developers, right?".

    If Apple screwed up, they they did so big time. However Lodsys waiting until that service was used thousands of times by thousands of developers is total BS — they knew the first week that version of iOS was released whether or not they felt they had a claim to make.

    Instead they wait for it to get fully adopted and entrenched and then go after everyone? There should be some sort of statute of limitations on that kind of sleazy activity. Again, assuming Lodsys is in the right.
  23. ghostface147 macrumors 68030


    May 28, 2008
  24. bozzykid macrumors 68020

    Aug 11, 2009
    It really wouldn't help the app developers though since an Apple lawsuit would be separate from any action Lodsys is taking against individual developers. The problem is most of these developers are not big entities and can't afford a legal battle.
  25. squirrellydw macrumors regular


    Nov 22, 2003
    screw them, tell all DEVS to remove all in-app purchase's and not use it.

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