Lodsys can do whatever they want with their patents. Developers have a choice of paying the fees or leaving the platform. However, as Steve Jobs said, "Choice is good, isn't it?". Everything will be okay.
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Lodsys Responds to Apple, Files Lawsuits Against App Developers
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Why doesn't Apple just buy Lodsys, fire all its employees for being such a pain, and end the darn thing.
Except for the fact that what Lodsys is doing is completely immoral. They may have the legal right to do what they are doing, but do not have a moral right to do so. There are plenty of things that are (or have been) legal that are not moral. This is just another example. The law will need to be changed to reflect this as it has been in the past.
I know it's been said already but this post makes less sense than the Cubs winning the next five World Series.
I see. So before Lodsys attempts to make a profit on the patent that they own, they must first consult a priest to see if such act is, "God forbid", immoral?
Do you consider every action that is legal to be moral, i.e. the "right" thing to do? I recognize that some people do and I also think it is their right to do so. I do not. In my view, the law does not define morality, it, at best, reflects it. At worst, the law contradicts morality. In such cases the law is wrong and needs to be changed. That is pretty much how the United States came to be, by recognizing that what England was doing to the colonies was immoral and the citizens who lived here had a moral right to change the status quo. Then it took almost a hundred years and a bloody war to correct another legal immorality. So, while Lodsys is legally entitled to what they are doing, they are not morally correct. This is all my opinion. I accept that you might disagree.
To me, the law is the law. I understand that you do not agree with what Lodsys may be doing, that is your right. However, as you said, they are entitled to do whatever they want. This is why seeing so many people in this forum genuinely wishing them to actually go bankrupt and get thrown out on the street is simply striking to me.
Morals aren't just for the Religious....
Common Law has it's own Moral framework that covers if the contract is valid based on the actions, intent and abilities of the parties.
Many of these cases seem to forget that, which is why the question of morality comes up.
So, capitalism always triumphs over ethics in your mind huh? And morality is a quaint notion reserved for men in funny white garments?
What a world this would be if everyone thought that way. Oh, by the way, did you pay your teeth brushing licensing fees today? What's that? You already paid to buy the toothbrush and toothpaste? Yes I know, but see, the guy who came up with the idea still wants a direct cut.
Apple could sue Lodsys, then ask the judge for an injunction/hold of Lodsys' other suits as their suit would supersede... if that succeeded, Lodsys would be at Apple's mercy given the suit could take longer than Lodsys has funds.
Using the broken court/patent system for "justice" = priceless.
The same argument could be made about Apple's suit against Samsung for the Iphone UI. It's legal, but immoral.
It's a benefit for everyone if people can pick up a random phone and use it. It doesn't matter that Microsoft used a green phone icon in Windows Mobile, and Apple copied it for the Iphone, and now Apple is suing Samsung for using a green phone icon.
The benefit is that all phones have a green icon with a 60's era handset image on it to represent "telephone".
I suspect there's a little more to Apple's lawsuit than the green phone icon.
But you're right — we do need to consider the overall benefit to society, as well as the IP owner. To put it another way, as a society we need to keep sight of the spirit of the law. If the letter of the law doesn't match the spirit of the law, then, as Hirth has said, the letter needs to be changed.
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I think Apple has something to loose here. I certainly don't like Lodsys as I can't see anything ethical in their business model.
The patent office has really failed when it comes to technology suits and the spirit of a patent.
I think Apple has something to loose here. I certainly don't like Lodsys as I can't see anything ethical in their business model.
The patent office has really failed when it comes to technology suits and the spirit of a patent.
this is on a different level. Samsung is a big company and can countersue. Lodsys is purposefully suing small developers because they can't afford the costs to defend themselves. In addition, Lodsys doesn't have any real products, and their patents are completely ridiculous.
The real problem lies in Wash. D.C. Of course that's where most problems originate.
Mark.Small@lodsys.com
I emailed this thread along with a few others from several forums, as well as a personal message.
Why is this jackoff not being protested?
I emailed this thread along with a few others from several forums, as well as a personal message.
Why is this jackoff not being protested?
Picture of Mark Small
According to the LinkedIn profile of patent troll Mark Small, he used to be VP of Sales at McAfee, so I think this is his mug.
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According to the LinkedIn profile of patent troll Mark Small, he used to be VP of Sales at McAfee, so I think this is his mug.
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Lodsys
The PTO should never let these scum-bag companies have any rights to buy patents they they never intend to use. Patents are their to protect inventors for efforts in developing new ideas and technologies to better of all mankind. They buy patents for one reason and one reason only: to sue everyother inventor. I would pay $1000.00 to any presidential candidate that would end this bull *#*#!
The PTO should never let these scum-bag companies have any rights to buy patents they they never intend to use. Patents are their to protect inventors for efforts in developing new ideas and technologies to better of all mankind. They buy patents for one reason and one reason only: to sue everyother inventor. I would pay $1000.00 to any presidential candidate that would end this bull *#*#!
Just curious, but by posting his photo and such, are you suggesting people show up at his doorstep with torches alight and pitchforks in hand?
The PTO has no authority over the sale of patents.
The inventor was protected, and benefited by selling the patent he was otherwise unable to monetize.
They would much prefer to license rather than sue - lawsuits cost a lot of money.
You may want to take a look at the Constitution, specifically the enumerated powers of the President - he or she has no power to make laws to "end this bull *#*#!"