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How long would it take to be comfortable using both? I know it depends upon the person, but would 6 months, with 5-6 hours a week put in be enough?

Oh, I really can't say... "comfortable using the basics of both" maybe? They are both quite deep if you want to.

Logic is probably the easiest if you have seen a midisequencer before, it works like sequencers have done for ages.

Ableton Live have a bit of a different GUI with the "session view" as the main composing area (it looks more like Logic in it's other view - "arrange view").

It all depends on what you want to do. You will probably be able to learn the basics and get around quite comfortably in both apps in half a year.
(really understanding and programming all synths yourself, know how to use eq, fx and mix well is more of a lifetime project...;) )

For me, coming from "traditional" midisequencers and mostly making various forms of electronic music, I still prefer working with Ableton Live nowadays even though this program is the newest one for me. It's so quick for trying out new ideas and quickly get somekind of a rough sketch to keep working on. Ableton Live's dead easy mapping for midicontrollers can't be matched on any other digital audio workstation as far as I know. Ableton Live could be used as an whole instrument for live performance jams and recording of them.

I use Logic for working with older projects where hardware synths are involved. I prefer Logic's mixing and eq-tools when doing audio recordings of my old hardware. Compared to Ableton Live, Logic is more of a studio with instruments and a mixer & fx in it. Suits a more "linear" way of working, when you from the start pretty much know where you want to go.
 
wowzer - lots of new goodies in the upgrade - and BUG fixes ? they don't detail that but I am sure they fix much flakiness.

VERY HAPPY about this free upgrade.
 
Logic Pro X is a beast out of a software :)

And I am so glad now that GarageBand is a stripped down version of Logic Pro, with the same interface. Pretty sure their codes weren't sharing much in common before version X.

Now Apple, let's talk Photos...
 
Great. Now my 256GB rMBP SSD is going to be even more crammed full. Is there anyway to store this stuff on a secondary drive? I use Logic rarely and it's gigabytes of stuff is killing my available space.
 
Garageband Pro X+

Yes you can move Logics library to an external drive by using aliases.

This shows you how.

http://music.tutsplus.com/articles/...d-libraries-to-an-external-drive--audio-19567

Thanks for that post.

What users need are bug fixes and a better export-to-Pro Tools option. I'd like a better concert grand and some better orchestral instruments and a 128-voice EXS-24 than more junk compressed samples that only contribute to the proliferation of hip hop and electronica. We've already got the sampled 707, 808, an R5, and something from the Juno series. Enough, please. Just give me a decent bass clarinet, please. :rolleyes:
 
Logic Pro X is a beast out of a software :)

And I am so glad now that GarageBand is a stripped down version of Logic Pro, with the same interface. Pretty sure their codes weren't sharing much in common before version X.

AFAIK, GB was designed as a lightweight front end to Logic's audio engine from day one. So under the hood, they were sharing a lot of code long before Logic X and GB X.
 
Seriously? Cartoonish character pictures for the profiles? Thats doesn't exactly scream serious piece of prosumer software to me, however good it might actually be.
 
Any particular features that would make switching from Ableton worth it?

No not really. I have both and prefer Ableton. But that's just a preference. I can do everything in LPX that I do in Ableton.....some things just take longer to do in Logic. Production wise I love Ableton. Not to mention Ableton is compatible with everything. if I ever resort to owning a PC for a given amount of time I won't have to worry about learning a new DAW.
You really have no reason to change. But given LPX's extremely affordable price you could get it w/o breaking the bank.

Theyre both great at what they do.
 
about time! would love to see a way to easily edit the Drummer notes from the same interface.
 
Oh, but according to MacRumor readers, Apple only cares about making things pretty and releasing crappy new devices!
 
i use both

Any particular features that would make switching from Ableton worth it?

I have projects in both. Traditional band stuffs are focused on in logic. I also slave ableton to logic via rewire if projects need to be combined. Problem is controllers don't work in ableton when its slaved to logic with rewire. Logic assumes control and its an ongoing issue they don't seem to want to fix.
Once apple and ableton figure out how to slave logic to ableton without having to use mainstage as a software bridge they will compliment each other nicely.
 
Yeah, yeah, new features, whatever. What about bug fixes?

Tons of bug fixes. Read the release notes.

http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203718

Great. Now my 256GB rMBP SSD is going to be even more crammed full. Is there anyway to store this stuff on a secondary drive? I use Logic rarely and it's gigabytes of stuff is killing my available space.

Good point, Logic is a great app but not giving users an easy option to put the huge content on a secondary drive is a major oversight. Sure it can be done but it shouldn't require hacks.

Thanks for that post.

What users need are bug fixes and a better export-to-Pro Tools option. I'd like a better concert grand and some better orchestral instruments and a 128-voice EXS-24 than more junk compressed samples that only contribute to the proliferation of hip hop and electronica. We've already got the sampled 707, 808, an R5, and something from the Juno series. Enough, please. Just give me a decent bass clarinet, please.

There are tons of fantastic third party sample libraries available. I'd recommend Kontakt and some of the tons of options available for it.
 
It's not showing as an update in the App Store updater window (I'm still on 10.8.5 until Avid decides to qualify Yosemite for Pro Tools - sigh…)

But I can see an update on the App Store front window but I get the message it's not compatible with my current OS.

So…. ahem - AVID!!!!
 
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