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The real market is toasters. Wouldn't it be great if your toaster had a little 4 inch touch screen on it and you could browse the web while waiting a minute or two for your bread to get nice and crunchy?

Actually they should just add a way to browse the web to everything. It'd make life a little less boring.

Talk to Tony Fadell. As soon as he catches up with the demand for his Nest Learning Thermostat, he can start working on your toaster… the Nest Learning Toaster. Imagine the energy saving of a perfectly browned piece of toast vs one that is charred. It could tell the difference from a sliced bagel, wheat toast or even God forsake, a Pop-Tart. Dial your toasting time down until the green leaf shows on the screen. Under done toast, but hell, your electric bill is less. Take care!
 
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This is one reason why...
 

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Steve gave Google the best advice. Focus on a few projects/products and do not spread yourself too thin. Google is trying to dip their hands in everything and it has resulted in some hits but also some big misses. They seem to be all over the place trying to compete in too many product categories.

I agree. Especially when they try to take on things that is already massively used by another company like Facebook (Google+ Fail), email (Google Buzz Fail), Skype (google voice fail), AppleTV (Google tv fail).

IMO the only thing google has going for it is its search engine and gmail email.

The difference is... Apple is a company full of creatives with a hunger for perfection. Google is a company full of brains and a hunger for competition. Google doesn't have the creative potential, the foresight or the ability to think outside the box.
 
According to Logitech CEO Guerrino De Luca...Logitech "executed a full scale launch with a beta product", a decision that resulted in a $100 million loss for the company when consumer demand failed to meet expectations.

Any idea how much Google lost in the venture? Not that they'd miss it.
 
I have heard of a thing called sports. In fact, I used to play soccer prior to high school and I believe that sports should either be "played" or watched in person.

Sitting in front of a boob tube watching sports is idiotic to me because you aren't even getting the exercise of going to the game.

If you love sports so much, take up a sport like golfing or go watch a game in person.

Sports are meant to be either participated in as a contestant or as part of the live crowd at the event.

That makes as much sense as saying that if you enjoy TV shows you should act in them or be in the studio. I like watching football with my cat and kitchen nearby. When I want to be live at a sport, I do a race. And that's frequent.
 
TV, the end game for Apple? If they can crack this market it would put them in an unprecedented position of power. From a user point of view the TV experience desperately needs a makeover and who better to do it than Apple?
 
You know I can't help but notice that these companies are just as stupid as fish. I honestly think they are so out of touch with society that they only think from their income bracket. Duh, people don't want to spend 300 figgen dollars on a setop box. Why didn't they take the hint from Apple with the Apple TV 1. Even it wasn't 300 dollars. And wasn't the Apple TV 2 out by then? Morons.
 
Meh, Google is doomed. Horrible products and no unity, like Microsoft trying to make consumer electronics.

$300 for a box that doesn't even have a coax input? I'm even dissatisfied with the Apple TV for not having an antenna input. They should add one, especially since the iTunes Store NO LONGER HAS TV SHOWS.

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TV, the end game for Apple? If they can crack this market it would put them in an unprecedented position of power. From a user point of view the TV experience desperately needs a makeover and who better to do it than Apple?

The Apple TV doesn't even play TV shows...

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Any idea how much Google lost in the venture? Not that they'd miss it.

Gotta make my company and sell it to Google before they get smart! :D
Anything that competes with them is easy money.

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What've you got against Pop-Tarts, huh? :mad:

Toaster Strudel is actually better....

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They shoved these out the door with Android crap on them and a $300 price tag. An Apple TV for $99 was way better. Heck, even Rokus are nice, and they can be had for only $59! Why would anyone bother with the Google TV?

My super-Google-fan friend wanted it until he found out about the box. I think he would have gotten it even for $150 though... What would you even watch on this, Youtube?
 
This is incredibly short sighted of Logitech. What do they have to gain from taking a position like this? They're acting incredibly childish by simply trying to put the blame on someone else.


I, for one, am extremely happy with my Sony Google TV. I guess to compare with the Apple TV, this runs Android, so it will eventually be able to do most of the things my phone can do. One of those things is browse the web, which is pretty comfortable to do on it's 40 inch screen.

Also, as mentioned, it will support Android apps soon.

I feel like it mostly had poor marketing and most people simply were never shown some of it's best features, which is a shame. But I guess Logitech just wanted a scapegoat, God knows why.
 
Meh, Google is doomed. Horrible products and no unity, like Microsoft trying to make consumer electronics.

$300 for a box that doesn't even have a coax input? I'm even dissatisfied with the Apple TV for not having an antenna input. They should add one, especially since the iTunes Store NO LONGER HAS TV SHOWS.

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My super-Google-fan friend wanted it until he found out about the box. I think he would have gotten it even for $150 though... What would you even watch on this, Youtube?
1) The Logitech Revue is $99, not $300. There is no need for a coaxial input since the Revue sits as a box between your cable set top box and TV...hence why there are HDMI In and HDMI Out ports on the back.

2) Again, the Revue is $99. And the last question shows your true ignorance on what Google TV actually IS. :rolleyes:
 
Logitech deserved the results it received.

How could the possibly think the $300 price point would work when other boxes are priced at $99?
 
GTV and AppleTV won't have much of a chance until the cable providers allow content to be viewed on the devices.

I ended up buying a Logitech Revue when it fell to $99. I installed the 3.1 beta and it's pretty impressive. The only thing that sucks is I can't watch shows because most companies have blocked the device. I thought about buying an Apple TV but the only feature that interests me is the airplay feature. It's basically an epic fail compared to GTV. How long has it been on the market again? Oh yeah, almost 5 years. No wonder it's so magical.
 
Meh, Google is doomed. Horrible products and no unity, like Microsoft trying to make consumer electronics.

Microsoft has decent consumer products... The Xbox for one is fantastic. Zune was OK. Windows Mobile phones are cool, but a little too little too late.


GTV and AppleTV won't have much of a chance until the cable providers allow content to be viewed on the devices.

So true - or even better if a 2-way CableCard standard is finally adopted, it doesn't matter which box you use provided you get the access card from the cable/satellite provider.

But that'll never happen until something like revolutionary comes along like what the iPhone did to the mobile market.
 
1) The Logitech Revue is $99, not $300. ... Again, the Revue is $99.

Isn't that only because Logitech is dumping the product and is eating the loss just to get rid of the stock? Using the same logic, the HP TouchPad is $99, not $500. This obviously isn't the right way to gauge the feasibility of a product since the product was clearly designed to be sold at a much higher retail price, not the firesale price.
 
TV, the end game for Apple? If they can crack this market it would put them in an unprecedented position of power. From a user point of view the TV experience desperately needs a makeover and who better to do it than Apple?

I do not think anyone has cracked the market yet. Apple TV is way WAY to limited to have any hope of cracking into the market. It seems like no one has really figured it out yet.
I hope Google is able to crack in with buying Motorola and all the ins Motorola has in that market. They could get the TV deals and get the DVR part really going.
 
They shoved these out the door with Android crap on them and a $300 price tag. An Apple TV for $99 was way better. Heck, even Rokus are nice, and they can be had for only $59! Why would anyone bother with the Google TV?

I looked at ATV, at GTV, at Roku. Too many stupid limitations, especially for the GTV's cost. I really wanted to like Roku, but they have some mindless issue with DivX and refuse to play it, so I plopped down <$200 for a Boxee Box and it works beautifully.
 
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