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What are case maker's aversion to protecting the bottom of devices? Even Apple with their leather iPhone case.

"Maybe I should check on the iPad Pro 10.5" leather case that I ordered from Apple to make sure that they didn't change something from the way the leather case for my iPad Air 2 looks."

It was then that macduke realized that he f'd up.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME? They only have leather covers now, and they charge $69 for them? I'm pretty sure that's how much the whole leather case cost for my iPad Air 2! I might as well buy that keyboard cover for that kind of money! Guess I'm going to have to initiate the return process. That is super irritating! I love my 9.7" iPad Air 2 leather case. It's the best case I've ever owned. Why and when did they stop making it?
 
Why do they not create these cases to cover the whole area of the iPad, I want to be able to use this as a functional protective case as well as a keyboard

Leaving cut outs just means I'll be waiting for Zagg to release their offering, I have the Zagg on the older iPad Pro 9.7 and it's fantastic
 
I'm kind of confused though after yesterday's keynote. I'm not really sure as to what's been updated on the 12.9 inch iPad Pro. I have the Logitech keyboard for the now "old" iPad Pro but if I'm looking to upgrade is it really worth it? The case I can see. It's not like the 12.9 has slimmer bezels in which something I was hoping for. Would love for someone to pinpoint the key differences between the two since obviously I can't see them.
Thinner bezels coming on GEN 3 with an AMOLED 13.9 screen;)
 
Apple has bastardized the word 'Pro' on all their products that it's lost its meaning essentially..now 3rd party accessory makers are following this trend. A 'Pro' device use to mean something like substantial computing power and memory gain (especially when compared to what was available to the average consumer) to handle heavy or more demanding computing tasks.

Input accessories like keyboard and the pencil do not make a device Pro! They are additional accessories to a mobile multitouch device each designed to handle specific tasks easier. Does this make it 'Pro'? Absolutely Not!
Personal Computing started with the keyboard and mouse...other pointer devices came along as well. They were the only forms of entry before touchscreens came along...so NO! Just because you want to use your multi-touch device like a traditional computer doesnt make it Pro!

The multitasking features that is coming to iOS 11 is going to be available to most of Apple's mobile products. They are also things that have been around, some rethought to accommodate the primary mode of entry for these mobile devices i.e Touch.

This is becoming obnoxious and stupid.

I should point out, watching the ad got me really pissed off
 
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The only thing missing now is the full MacOS on the iPad.
Not missing.
It's called MacBook. They are available for sale.
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Apple has bastardized the word 'Pro' on all their products that it's lost its meaning essentially..now 3rd party accessory makers are following this trend. A 'Pro' device use to mean something like substantial computing power and memory gain (especially when compared to what was available to the average consumer) to handle heavy or more demanding computing tasks.

Input accessories like keyboard and the pencil do not make a device Pro! They are additional accessories to a mobile multitouch device each designed to handle specific tasks easier. Does this make it 'Pro'? Absolutely Not!
Personal Computing started with the keyboard and mouse...other pointer devices came along as well. They were the only forms of entry before touchscreens came along...so NO! Just because you want to use your multi-touch device like a traditional computer doesnt make it Pro!

The multitasking features that is coming to iOS 11 is going to be available to most of Apple's mobile products. They are also things that have been around, some rethought to accommodate the primary mode of entry for these mobile devices i.e Touch.

This is becoming obnoxious and stupid.

I should point out, watching the ad got me really pissed off

Actually no, posts attempting to define Pro are.
 
For me, this is where apples pro-strategy fails.

Just the iPad = one stylish piece
But to work, you need:
- a stand
- Keyboard -> which includes this stupid folding-stand

That sucks!

I want a kick-stand on my iPad!
 
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Apple has bastardized the word 'Pro' on all their products that it's lost its meaning essentially..now 3rd party accessory makers are following this trend. A 'Pro' device use to mean something like substantial computing power and memory gain (especially when compared to what was available to the average consumer) to handle heavy or more demanding computing tasks.

Input accessories like keyboard and the pencil do not make a device Pro! They are additional accessories to a mobile multitouch device each designed to handle specific tasks easier. Does this make it 'Pro'? Absolutely Not!
Personal Computing started with the keyboard and mouse...other pointer devices came along as well. They were the only forms of entry before touchscreens came along...so NO! Just because you want to use your multi-touch device like a traditional computer doesnt make it Pro!

The multitasking features that is coming to iOS 11 is going to be available to most of Apple's mobile products. They are also things that have been around, some rethought to accommodate the primary mode of entry for these mobile devices i.e Touch.

This is becoming obnoxious and stupid.

I should point out, watching the ad got me really pissed off

I'm not sure I follow your argument, but this most definitely is a pro device in many fields. If you need a pencil-type input, e.g., for illustration, there is truly nothing better than the Apple Pencil.
 
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I'm surprised that Apple doesn't sell a back case for the iPad Pro 10"

And why can't Apple bundle it together, the smart keyboard + back case
 
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I was surprised to see the pencil pictured with the lightning connector hidden. There's no way the cap stays on for more than a day if it's mounted like that...
 
I've owned a lot of different brands of iPad keyboards, and Logitech is usually the best (for me). I'm always hoping for a MacBook-like typing experience with my iPad, and I've still not found one, but I usually keep using my Logitech keyboards when I am working on the iPad. Currently using the ultrathin keyboard cover for my Air 2. Apple's Smart Keyboard seems nice, and I may switch to it when I go for an iPad Pro model. This Slim Combo doesn't look easy to use on a lap.
 
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I might be interested in just buying the back case with the stand. Wonder if they will sell it seperatly at some point?

Thinking the same. I want a case that covers the back only, with no keyboard and with a Kickstand, like the one from this Logitech or the one built-in on the MS Surface Pro. I don't mind not having the keyboard!

Just wanted to echo this sentiment. I have no need of a keyboard for my iPad, but would love a nice kickstand/hand grip for the back. I really wish Native Union would make this for the 12.9" Pro.
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Dimensions on 12.9 Pro Case:
    • Height x Width x Depth: 12.22 in x 9.06 in x 1.02 in
    • Weight: 1.41 lbs (12.9 iPad Pro adds another 1.49lbs)
Dimensions on 13" MacBook Pro:
  • Height: 0.59 inch (1.49 cm)
  • Width: 11.97 inches (30.41 cm)
  • Depth: 8.36 inches (21.24 cm)
  • Weight: 3.02 pounds (1.37 kg)
 
The Logitech create cases are great, until you realize you've doubled the weight of your tablet and bulked it up considerably. Although the Apple Smart Keyboard isn't ideal, it doesn't add nearly as much weight and serves its purpose - for my needs of a tablet anyways.
 
I ordered one on Monday and just received it, haven't gotten to use it a bunch obviously, but I am using it for this post. It definitely adds some weight and bulk, but for my purposes I am very pleased with it. The keyboard is what adds most of the weight and bulk, so it's nice that removes easily. I'm going to use the keyboard portion mostly only when working from home or traveling with the iPad for protection. While the added bulk might not make it the most convienient, it definitely provides great protection to the iPad. As for the added weight, that's never bothered me as much as the actual size/dimension of things, it really doesn't add that much weight that it would prevent you from doing anything. Actually using the keyboard to type has been a pleasure so far, and definitely faster and easier than using the keyboard on the actual iPad.

Someone was asking if the keyboard cover also acts like a Smart Cover, putting the display to sleep/wake, and it does!

The Apple Pencil holder holds the pencil very snug, but not too much so to make it difficult to go in and out, and feels like a mix of rubber and fabric. Right now I don't feel like the pencil would get lost, but my only concern is how well it holds up and if it stretches out at all, making the pencil slip out. Only time will tell that.

I hope that helps anyone thinking about ordering one. Overall I am very happy with it. And the quality.
 
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Anyone know how to make the keyboard stay on in tablet mode? Been playing with this new case and keyboard combo for a day now and it irks me that the keyboard falls off when I flip it backwards like the Apple Smart Keyboard Cover. Other than that, the kickstand is great, the keyboard rigidity is excellent with excellent key travel, and the pencil holder works fine. I just don't want to disconnect the keyboard in tablet mode even though it makes it lighter for tablet use.
 
I was actually trying to figure out if you can fold the keyboard all the way back while attached too. It seems like you can't and just have to detach it.

After using it a bit, the keyboard connection seems very sensitive. If I open the keyboard from cover mode and start to try and type, it doesn't do anything. I have to dicconect and reconnect the keyboard and then it works fine. This is my first Smart Keyboard for the iPad Pro, so I'm not sure if that's just an issue with how the keyboards are? Or if it's just this model keyboard. I've only had it for a day and it's already getting annoying.
 
I was actually trying to figure out if you can fold the keyboard all the way back while attached too. It seems like you can't and just have to detach it.

After using it a bit, the keyboard connection seems very sensitive. If I open the keyboard from cover mode and start to try and type, it doesn't do anything. I have to dicconect and reconnect the keyboard and then it works fine. This is my first Smart Keyboard for the iPad Pro, so I'm not sure if that's just an issue with how the keyboards are? Or if it's just this model keyboard. I've only had it for a day and it's already getting annoying.

The keyboard should work as soon as you connect and start typing with it. If the connection is loose, the keyboard will fail to type. I've had to adjust my Apple one once and the same with this Logitech one. The fact that the keyboard doesn't stay attached in tablet mode is one of my major gripes with this keyboard, otherwise, it's close to perfect.
 
With the keyboard and the kickstand, the 12.9 inch iPad Pro is heavier and larger than a Retina MacBook. Even with the Apple silicone case and Smart Keyboard, the same is true. I think we need more competition for cases and keyboard solutions. At this point, this is the best combo for me but it still lacks a lot of finesse. I still like this combo over the Retina MacBook Pro and even the Retina MacBook. Oh, I also had a glitch with keyboard recognition as well. The key depth is like using an older MacBook Pro so with the overall weight and heft of this new combo, you get an experience like a MacBook while retaining iOS and all of those benefits.
 
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