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Crapola. What are you folks doing to use that much? The wife & I share 2GB and rarely get close to using it all. With the proliferation of wifi, how can you use that much data?

I watch a lot of european soccer games while in school using cellular data, so that takes most of it :p
 
I'm not bitching about what I'm paying for now..I'm just stating my usage. I get their reasoning, I don't like it but I deal with it. If I get throttled, I get throttled. I'm still going to use data when I want.

I for one will not give my unlimited data for their newer overpriced plans since it's more expensive for less data that my throttled unlimited data.

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Nope, just regular Safari. Doesn't help that I have a useragent faker as some mobile sites are terrible and prefer not to even see them lol.

I was just thinking how easy it would be to be considerate of the bandwidth for others and turn on your WiFi. But after hearing the above reply, I understand why you would never do that. Enjoy your world, throttled!
 
Crapola. What are you folks doing to use that much? The wife & I share 2GB and rarely get close to using it all. With the proliferation of wifi, how can you use that much data?
Where is the wifi? Visiting NYC and can't find this free WiFi.
 
Where is the wifi? Visiting NYC and can't find this free WiFi.

Don't know. Thought it was greatest city on earth. You tell me.

In the past year or two, I've been to Dallas, Portland, Seattle, Houston, and Chicago and found some in each of those places. Also, there's and app for that.
 
Wait, I thought they already got in trouble for throttling and the government said they can't do that?

The feds are LOOKING at it. Much different than saying they could not do it. Also, Verizon has some unique rules that apply to just them, which is also being looked at.
 
Can we get discount for every time our data connection is not running at LTE or 4G speed?
How come that you can 'abuse' something that has a capped maximum speed in a fixed amount of days?
The carrier that start selling a data rollover plan will conquer my business...
 
That sucks!

Joys of being in the uk, last billing cycle I used a lot but then I'm on a unlimited plan with three uk and it's really unlimited and not throttled in any way.
 
I do believe it is about network congestion, at least partially. If they did not throttle or charge extra, way more people would use their phone with heavy usage and WHAM, the network is overloaded.

Charging extra/throttling, etc becomes supply and demand.

Nope. Had an AT&T rep basically say the same thing to me (that it's NOT about "congestion" it's about easing people OFF the "unlimited" plans).

People tend to overestimate the way LTE bandwith is affected. It's NOT the same as 3G (which handles way more congestion because of voice calls... by the way).

Take Verizon as an example. Somehow, magically, even though they have unthrottled unlimited LTE plans, they don't suffer any outages or slowdowns. Amazing!

Or even AT&T. They STILL have unlimited unthrottled iPad plans, and they don't "bog down" the network...

Look, it's a great "talking point" for AT&T to try and fool people into thinking it would hurt their service, but the reality is, voice over LTE is going to create FAR more "congestion" than allowing the few thousand "unlimited" iPhone users unthrottled access, but are they worried about quality of service??? Of course not. Why? Because their infrastructure can handle 20X the load it currently has. That was a major REASON to upgrade to LTE (the major bandwidth advantage over 3G).

AT&T will SELL you as much data as you want if you are on a tiered plan. If you want to use 50GB a month, they will NEVER question you, or tell you that you are abusing their network.

It's only when you aren't paying them for it that it becomes a concern.

It's a scam. It wouldn't slow down anything. Not even if every unlimited iPhone user used their phones non-stop (provided it was all on LTE of course).

Throttle my 3G. Leave LTE alone.

It'll never happen, but don't buy into the BS machine of AT&T PR. They have PLENTY of bandwidth.
 
....It's a scam. It wouldn't slow down anything. Not even if every unlimited iPhone user used their phones non-stop (provided it was all on LTE of course)...

Are really sure there is no "limit" to the capacity on LTE?

Really?

If there were no limit, then the cell phone carriers could run the cable internet folks out of business, right?
 
Nope. Had an AT&T rep basically say the same thing to me (that it's NOT about "congestion" it's about easing people OFF the "unlimited" plans).

People tend to overestimate the way LTE bandwith is affected. It's NOT the same as 3G (which handles way more congestion because of voice calls... by the way).

Take Verizon as an example. Somehow, magically, even though they have unthrottled unlimited LTE plans, they don't suffer any outages or slowdowns. Amazing!

Or even AT&T. They STILL have unlimited unthrottled iPad plans, and they don't "bog down" the network...

Look, it's a great "talking point" for AT&T to try and fool people into thinking it would hurt their service, but the reality is, voice over LTE is going to create FAR more "congestion" than allowing the few thousand "unlimited" iPhone users unthrottled access, but are they worried about quality of service??? Of course not. Why? Because their infrastructure can handle 20X the load it currently has. That was a major REASON to upgrade to LTE (the major bandwidth advantage over 3G).

AT&T will SELL you as much data as you want if you are on a tiered plan. If you want to use 50GB a month, they will NEVER question you, or tell you that you are abusing their network.

It's only when you aren't paying them for it that it becomes a concern.

It's a scam. It wouldn't slow down anything. Not even if every unlimited iPhone user used their phones non-stop (provided it was all on LTE of course).

Throttle my 3G. Leave LTE alone.

It'll never happen, but don't buy into the BS machine of AT&T PR. They have PLENTY of bandwidth.
Verizon has had "network optimization" (or throttling in a sense) protocols in place for at least a little while now, and is expanding them this year as well.
 
If you go over 5 gigs with the unlimited plan, does AT&T cap your speeds just for the remainder of the billing cycle or for as long as you keep the plan to force you to change data plans?
 
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If you go over 5 gigs with the unlimited plan, does AT&T cap your speeds just for the remainder of the billing cycle or for as long as you keep to plan to force you to change data plans?

AT&T will throttle the rest of the billing cycle - once you go over the limit of Unlimited plan .. Next bill cycle will full throttle until you hit the limit again - Throttle thru rest of bill cycle...
 
AT&T will throttle the rest of the billing cycle - once you go over the limit of Unlimited plan .. Next bill cycle will full throttle until you hit the limit again - Throttle thru rest of bill cycle...

It also depends on where you are at as I have gone over the limit twice and never been throttled. I have a friend who do not get throttled and he had 9GB of data used.
 
Are really sure there is no "limit" to the capacity on LTE?

Really?

If there were no limit, then the cell phone carriers could run the cable internet folks out of business, right?

I never said there was unlimited capacity, just that they are nowhere NEAR being even slightly "taxed" for usage on LTE.

Maybe they have 20x more (this is in a high traffic are mind you), maybe it's 50x... The number I have heard the most (and this is from AT&T reps I have spoken too) is typically 20x. How can you check? Call them and say you are very concerned that the new Voice over LTE protocol is going to slow down your speeds for internet. They'll reassure by telling you how much bandwidth they have and how little they are actually using.

It's a tricky way to get the truth, but it's the truth. In reality, the only time they EVER mention issues with network congestion on LTE is when they talk about unlimited plans. Otherwise they always go out of their way to reassure you they have plenty.

Think about it this way: When the 5 launched, and EVERYONE was trying out their shiny new LTE on launch day (and everyone was...), how much "congestion" did it cause? Whole lotta NONE. Because LTE is considerably differnt than 3G in terms of capacity.

And that was 2 years ago. The network is even stronger now.

It's a MYTH that there are congestion problems. There aren't.

It's just a scam to force people off of unlimited, plain and simple.
 
This is BS. You MADE me get unlimited data several years ago when I bought my 3G. Any idea how slow my data will be when I hit 5GB? By the way, I do NOT live in a metropolitan area. Just do a Google search for Anderson, SC.

Welcome to the "unlimited" club. AT&T sucks.
 
Just as an aside, yes I realize that AT&T isn't rolling out VoLTE anytime soon, I just use it as a "fear" to help illustrate to the agent that they aren't throttling my data out of fears over capacity.

If you get a cool enough agent, they'll admit it's all just a tactic to ease people onto the mobile share plans.

I call every now and then and complain about the throttle just to see if there is anything new in the pipeline (enterprise plan not being throttled was one rumor I heard that turned out to be completely FALSE lol).

:D
 
This is BS. You MADE me get unlimited data several years ago when I bought my 3G. Any idea how slow my data will be when I hit 5GB? By the way, I do NOT live in a metropolitan area. Just do a Google search for Anderson, SC.

Why are they charging you $20 when you have unlimited data?
 
I never said there was unlimited capacity, just that they are nowhere NEAR being even slightly "taxed" for usage on LTE.

Maybe they have 20x more (this is in a high traffic are mind you), maybe it's 50x... The number I have heard the most (and this is from AT&T reps I have spoken too) is typically 20x. How can you check? Call them and say you are very concerned that the new Voice over LTE protocol is going to slow down your speeds for internet. They'll reassure by telling you how much bandwidth they have and how little they are actually using.

It's a tricky way to get the truth, but it's the truth. In reality, the only time they EVER mention issues with network congestion on LTE is when they talk about unlimited plans. Otherwise they always go out of their way to reassure you they have plenty.

Think about it this way: When the 5 launched, and EVERYONE was trying out their shiny new LTE on launch day (and everyone was...), how much "congestion" did it cause? Whole lotta NONE. Because LTE is considerably differnt than 3G in terms of capacity.

And that was 2 years ago. The network is even stronger now.

It's a MYTH that there are congestion problems. There aren't.

It's just a scam to force people off of unlimited, plain and simple.

I live in Miami, FL. Let me tell you. There are definitely congestion problems during peak hours here.

Do realize that ATT does not buy the same amount of bandwidth at each tower/area and may not even afford some more rural or less metropolitan areas the same bandwidth range as they do larger markets to begin with. So if you live in a smaller market and are using 10-13GB of data a month there, it may be much more of a red light to their system than it would be for me.

Just something that may or may not be close to their system.

My brother-in-law is a cellular engineer for Sprint in Ohio, so let me ask him later tonight if he has any idea how they propagate BW.
 
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