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My s7 edge is playing up and EE blame samsung and vice versa.

So I got an old three contract that I not used for ages but been reminded up for renewal.

Can get a 5s from only £17 a month with unlimited mins and txt.

The 6/6s/6 plus cost too much upfront for me, would prefer 6 plus as like big screen.

I know it's a bit old now but it is going to be my backup phone as my s7 playing up.

I quite like idea of playing with IOS as I have not had apple device before bar 3 days with a 3GS.
 
So a 5 or 5s? Why not SE? You can probably wait a month or two until the new iPhone is announced/released, which would lower the price on the 6/6s line of phones (as well as probably SE).
 
SE cost too much.

£49 upfront and £39 month best deal

5s is zero upfront and £17 month

as said I'd like a 6 plus, just cannot afford it
 
SE cost too much.

£49 upfront and £39 month best deal

5s is zero upfront and £17 month

as said I'd like a 6 plus, just cannot afford it
Well 5s is still a decent choice if the price is right and understanding that even though it's a decent choice for the moment it's still on the older side.

As far as the cost of the other phones, as I mentioned, when the new iPhone is announced/released in September (most likely) the prices on those would go down. Then it's a question of waiting a couple of months or so and basically seeing how much the prices will drop.
 
True but I cannot wait too long as my samsung is playing up and need a reliable phone for work, etc
 
I have a second phone line I use on straight talk wireless. Wal mart sells a 5s for $149. I bought one last week. Even on iOS 9.3 it still is quick and fluid. I also have a SE. To me it seems almost comparable. I think it is a good phone still I just do not know how future proof it is.
 
I have a second phone line I use on straight talk wireless. Wal mart sells a 5s for $149. I bought one last week. Even on iOS 9.3 it still is quick and fluid. I also have a SE. To me it seems almost comparable. I think it is a good phone still I just do not know how future proof it is.

The SE and 5s are completely different, as you know, even though they look identical. The 5s has weaker battery and processor for one. Secondly, over time, software updates will continue to bog down the 5s with speed considerations.. In terms of LTE, the 5s will be outdated in this category as well. And with the 5s, it's technically an obsolete phone now.

The 5s is a solid phone and for the price point you paid, it's not to bad, but the 5s is and will be a fossil soon.
 
The SE and 5s are completely different, as you know, even though they look identical. The 5s has weaker battery and processor for one. Secondly, over time, software updates will continue to bog down the 5s with speed considerations.. In terms of LTE, the 5s will be outdated in this category as well. And with the 5s, it's technically an obsolete phone now.

The 5s is a solid phone and for the price point you paid, it's not to bad, but the 5s is and will be a fossil soon.

Terms like "obsolete" and "fossil" are pretty subjective. I know more than a few people still using a 5 or even 4s. They may not be as fast, but they can still do most of the same things that a 2016 smartphone does.
 
Terms like "obsolete" and "fossil" are pretty subjective. I know more than a few people still using a 5 or even 4s. They may not be as fast, but they can still do most of the same things that a 2016 smartphone does.

Considering the 5s is obsolete, it's no longer in production. In my area, carriers don't even offer this as a device anymore. It's not a bad phone, but internally it's behind and software updates will ream it slower over time. I understand it has similarities to the SE, but lacks the Co-Processor/Processor Speed, camera software, ect. Thats usually what happens to phones on there way out, Third party carriers like Virgin Mobile and Straight Talk seek them being major carriers have ousted them from their line up. For a budget phone, sure it works, but thats exactly what it is, a budget phone. Lets see how your 5s balances IOS 10 when it launches, say compared to your SE.
 
My s7 edge is playing up and EE blame samsung and vice versa.

So I got an old three contract that I not used for ages but been reminded up for renewal.

Can get a 5s from only £17 a month with unlimited mins and txt.

The 6/6s/6 plus cost too much upfront for me, would prefer 6 plus as like big screen.

I know it's a bit old now but it is going to be my backup phone as my s7 playing up.

I quite like idea of playing with IOS as I have not had apple device before bar 3 days with a 3GS.

So what is your question ?

Thank you for the story
 
The SE and 5s are completely different, as you know, even though they look identical. The 5s has weaker battery and processor for one. Secondly, over time, software updates will continue to bog down the 5s with speed considerations.. In terms of LTE, the 5s will be outdated in this category as well. And with the 5s, it's technically an obsolete phone now.

The 5s is a solid phone and for the price point you paid, it's not to bad, but the 5s is and will be a fossil soon.
You are absolutely wrong I still has one from launch date and its doing its job fairly well. No software lag or anything that annoys me, even battery is still holding up pretty well, the design is iconic and it still gonna look better than upcoming iPhone 6 ME and iPhone 6 series
 
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First time that I have saw someone say that the SE will be reduced after the 7 is announced. Not a chance.
I didn't say it will, just "probably" (although "possibly" might have been somewhat better), and more as a small afterthought to the main point about 6s and 6 going down in price. That said, on the used side of things--which I don't know if it might or might not be a factor here--there's a good likelihood that the prices of all older phones, including the SE, would drop to one degree or another once a new model is released.
 
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Considering the 5s is obsolete, it's no longer in production. In my area, carriers don't even offer this as a device anymore. It's not a bad phone, but internally it's behind and software updates will ream it slower over time. I understand it has similarities to the SE, but lacks the Co-Processor/Processor Speed, camera software, ect. Thats usually what happens to phones on there way out, Third party carriers like Virgin Mobile and Straight Talk seek them being major carriers have ousted them from their line up. For a budget phone, sure it works, but thats exactly what it is, a budget phone. Lets see how your 5s balances IOS 10 when it launches, say compared to your SE.


The iPhone 5S is not obselete. If it wasn't for the iPhone 6S plus having this amazing screen, I would still be using the iPhone 5S.
 
The iPhone 5s is still a great phone on iOS 9. Not sure how it'll perform on future updates, but at the moment I believe it would make a great backup phone.
You are absolutely right i also have believe me from day one and it's still working like it worked on day one,i am so impressed from this iPhone and that's why i got another iPhone 5s (SE) in my view nothing can match it's quality and design (my favorite among other iPhones)
 
So why not buy a used 5S for £135-£150 to try out for a while. If you like it, save up for a better phone. Either way, you can sell it in a few months with little depreciation.
 
You are absolutely right i also have believe me from day one and it's still working like it worked on day one,i am so impressed from this iPhone and that's why i got another iPhone 5s (SE) in my view nothing can match it's quality and design (my favorite among other iPhones)
Main reason I upgraded my iPhone 5s to an iPhone SE was for more storage. I got a backup plan for my 5s which had limited data and I was so used to streaming all of my music on unlimited data, so I needed more space to be able to store all of my music on my phone. The fact that I was able to trade in my iPhone 5s and get an iPhone SE for only $14.16/month made that an easy decision.

I was expecting to be blown away by the iPhone SE's performance and camera, but because I wasn't just goes to show how good the iPhone 5s has held up.
 
You are absolutely wrong I still has one from launch date and its doing its job fairly well. No software lag or anything that annoys me, even battery is still holding up pretty well, the design is iconic and it still gonna look better than upcoming iPhone 6 ME and iPhone 6 series

Re-read my post again. The 5s compared to the SE is light years different in terms of power. It has the exact same internals as the 6s. I never commented on the design on the phone. I own the SE and had the 5s prior. Your entitled to your opinion on the design compared to the upcoming iPhone 7, but that's strictly a physical appeal.

In terms of internal specifications, the SE is much more efficient in battery and power. I believe there have been reports of the 5s struggling with the iOS 10 beta, then again it's a beta.
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The iPhone 5S is not obselete. If it wasn't for the iPhone 6S plus having this amazing screen, I would still be using the iPhone 5S.

How do you know it's not in production anymore? It was explained to me by a Verizon Regional manager that indeed the 5s is "No longer in production." He explained when new inventory arrives, he receives an itemized list, which states pricing tiers for the phones, which phones are in production and or deleted. When I asked about the 5s, he said verbatim the iPhone 5s is "No longer in production." This was in March 2016, ironically the same time the SE was released.

It is possible the 5s has overstock and certain third party carriers, I.e. Straight Talk, Virgin Mobile) carry them until their sold out, which is not uncommon for third party carriers to sell outdated/obsolete phones. I can tell you no carriers in my area have the 5s.
 
Considering the 5s is obsolete, it's no longer in production. In my area, carriers don't even offer this as a device anymore. It's not a bad phone, but internally it's behind and software updates will ream it slower over time. I understand it has similarities to the SE, but lacks the Co-Processor/Processor Speed, camera software, ect. Thats usually what happens to phones on there way out, Third party carriers like Virgin Mobile and Straight Talk seek them being major carriers have ousted them from their line up. For a budget phone, sure it works, but thats exactly what it is, a budget phone. Lets see how your 5s balances IOS 10 when it launches, say compared to your SE.

I acknowledged the fact that the 5s is obviously slower and less powerful than newer phones, but no longer being in production doesn't equate to being obsolete.

"Obsolete" is defined as something that is generally no longer used, nor considered to be useful. Neither is true of the 5s. Lots of people are still using it, and even older iPhones.
 
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I acknowledged the fact that the 5s is obviously slower and less powerful than newer phones, but no longer being in production doesn't equate to being obsolete.

"Obsolete" is defined as something that is generally no longer used, nor considered to be useful. Neither is true of the 5s. Lots of people are still using it, and even older iPhones.

I agree the 5s are still being used, for lots of reasons. Another User mentioned the same thing you did and I actually checked with a Verizon Regional Representative and he was able to confirm the 5s was no longer in production, what we see now is overstock.
 
I agree the 5s are still being used, for lots of reasons. Another User mentioned the same thing you did and I actually checked with a Verizon Regional Representative and he was able to confirm the 5s was no longer in production, what we see now is overstock.

I know that it's no longer in production, but my point is that that's not the same as being obsolete. It's still a functional and useful smartphone even if it's not state of the art.
 
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Meh unless you want to sign up to a second contract I would save money buy a cheap android that will do the basics until your s7 is sorted.
 
Well did better than expected.

I had an contract which i was not using so got a better deal being an existing customer.

I walked out with a 6 plus for almost same as the old contract and no upfront cost!

my fiancee also now has an SE.

Quite happy but learning IOS as we both android from start.
 
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