MP 1,1-5,1 Looks like the 5,1 fire sale has started.

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  1. handheldgames macrumors 68000

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    At least in Seattle, it looks like the nCMP announcement has 5,1 owners dumping their hardware. This craigslist post seems to be a nicely configured 5,1 for $1000 deal...
     
  2. orph macrumors 68000

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    must be microsoft employes upgrading :D

    California may have some good deals going
     
  3. nouveau_redneck macrumors 6502

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    How does this one cMP for sale indicate a fire sale?

    FYI, that price is actually a bit high.
     
  4. crjackson2134 macrumors 601

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    With it having a reconstructed BootROM according to the AD, it’s clearly a MR member.
    I wonder which one o_O
     
  5. Thysanoptera macrumors 6502a

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    He who smelt it dealt it :p

    I doubt selling old 5.1 for $1000 has anything to do with 7.1. After all, once 7.1 is released you could use the 5.1 to prop the monitor up and break even.
     
  6. crjackson2134 macrumors 601

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    I live in NC, I wouldn’t be advertising in Seattle’s Craigslist.

    I won’t be selling mine even when I get a 7,1.
     
  7. Thysanoptera macrumors 6502a

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    Ha - I wasn't even thinking about you, but now - well, I don't know. Just kidding ;) It doesn't matter, if I was buying I would rather get it from somebody from this forum who knows what he's doing. That's a nice machine.
     
  8. AidenShaw macrumors P6

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    … with a severely limited future. Run away.
     
  9. pl1984 macrumors 68020

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    It's been my observation the Mac Pro really drops in value once Apple no longer supports it with their latest OS. The 1,1 and 2,1 Mac Pros could be picked up fairly inexpensively after Mountain Lion drop support. The 3,1 did the same after Sierra dropped support. I expect something similar will happen to the 4,1 and 5,1 once Catalina is released (though maybe a little slower given the 4,1 and 5,1 were comparable upgrades to the 1,1 - 3,1 Mac Pros which many don't see in the 6,1 or 7,1 Mac Pros).
     
  10. Thysanoptera macrumors 6502a

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    Yes, of course. But I don't think anybody upgrading 5.1 to 7.1 will be rushing to sell it now, three months before release, in order to save couple hundred bucks.
     
  11. tsialex macrumors 601

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    You seems to fail to see that other people have different use case than yours.

    I know a lot of audio engineers that buy Mac Pros 4,1 and 5,1 to run Mavericks or El Capitan because ProTools version they need only run with these Macs and with these old macOS versions. Everything else is secondary to ProTools and don't matter. Sometimes it's not even ProTools, but a plug-in or a very specialised card that only runs with Mavericks.

    Not everyone needs the things that you need.
     
  12. pl1984, Jun 10, 2019
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    Hence my comment (which was found in that same post and you omitted):

    though maybe a little slower given the 4,1 and 5,1 were comparable upgrades to the 1,1 - 3,1 Mac Pros which many don't see in the 6,1 or 7,1 Mac Pros
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    Which is completely irrelevant to the threads subject that 5,1's are being sold at fire sale prices due to the announcement of the 7,1 and as such may not be such a great value for modern day computing work.
     
  13. tsialex macrumors 601

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    It's relevant to @AidenShaw post, since if you are in the market for a Mac Pro 5,1 today, you are not really thinking with future software support.
     
  14. handheldgames thread starter macrumors 68000

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    Gotta agree on this point. My customized cMP is no slower today than it was 2 weeks before the nCMP intro at wwdc. :apple: As a desktop it’s a great companion to a loaded 2017 MacBook Pro. Developing e-commerce React.js and MacOS apps is as smooth as ice on both platforms. While I could wholesale a great machine.. it’s more of a WANT to use the cMP than the NEED to drop 6k on a nCMP. I’d personally like to use the 6k on a c8 vette or a Tesla.
     
  15. crjackson2134 macrumors 601

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    Now you’re talking my language. Much more fun factor than either the 5,1 or the 7,1.
     
  16. orph macrumors 68000

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    to be fair no one needs to buy the 6K one, it's the 20K modle with 28 cores dual GPU and that PCI video decoder that you want.
    (I assume it will be 20K?)

    once you add the rack mount server full of HD's & SSD's your past a model 3 Tesla.

    $1000 = £787 in the UK, thats a good price in UK for a tricked out CMP dual CPU all set up for easy use.
    UK ebay
    a dual CPU tray is £530 :confused:
    cheapest dual CPU cmp for £600 and that's with no upgrades & HD 5770
    so in the UK it's fairly good.
     
  17. amedias macrumors regular

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    This always winds me up, I've seen dual trays listed for £500-£700, and then a few rows below a complete system (with lower spec CPUs) for £400-£600.

    Even once you plow £200 into CPUs and some other upgrades it doesn't make much sense to buy the trays, even single trays with a 6 core Westmere seem to fetch £200-£300, and I've never even paid that for a complete single CPU 4,1/5,1.

    I just picked up another dual 4,1 at the weekend locally for £240, even if I slide that tray out with the E5520s still in it and bung it on eBay I could probably make a profit and still have the rest of the machine to part out...spend £100 on some 5680s or 5690s and It'd sell for double again. Madness!
     
  18. William Payne macrumors 6502a

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    I know of a guy in Seattle who had about 6 of those in those his studio.
     
  19. pl1984 macrumors 68020

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    I disagree. I think the 4,1 and 5,1 Mac Pros have been so popular because they can run the latest software and, once Catalina is released, they'll become less popular (like the 1,1 - 3,1's did once they lost OS support). It is this user population to which I believe AdienShaw's comments were intended. Not people buying older systems to run period specific software on them (I just purchased a PowerMac 7300 to run some period specific software and I don't believe that indicates PowerMac 7300 have a future).
     
  20. DPUser macrumors 6502a

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    The audio world is one in which support for current Digital Audio Workstation software is all that matters. While I concur with your remark that the 4,1 and 5,1 MPs will be less popular overall, for people with specific uses, Aiden's "run away" is a silly and inaccurate blanket statement.

    Most, if not all, DAWs will run under Mojave for years to come. I'm still running Sierra with my DAW, which is up to date. I'll likely move to Mojave when I get a chance to experiment during some studio downtime.

    Someday, the 7,1 will readily available used and compatible CPUs will be selling for cheap on eBay; perhaps we can then replicate the value proposition that has been the 4,1/5,1 experience.
     
  21. Zdigital2015 macrumors 65816

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    It’s like a fever with you, isn’t?!? LOL! ;)
     
  22. macagain macrumors 6502

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    Nah... I finally put Windoze10 on my 5,1 and it runs great... everything works... in fact I think it does a better job of text smoothing than mojave on non-4k monitors. (I'm not a Microsoft employee)
     
  23. MVMNT macrumors member

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    I've got a spare separate dual tray... might sell it yet.
     
  24. redheeler macrumors 604

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    My Late 2006 iMac still gets used daily. Old Macs don't become obsolete when Apple wants them to. ;)
     
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    Dead on accuracy.
     

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