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Lost (TV show)

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You're well advised to just watch the first season, and leave the ending as a mystery. It pretty much goes downhill from then on. I've been following Lost since the beginning and I'm starting to feel it was a waste of my time following the story and various mysterious occurrences.

LOST really should be relabeled Fantasy Island 2.0.
 
DISCOMUNICATION said:
Why are you bringing this up? I don't see how anyone could mistake Locke's vision quest for a flashback.
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Read the whole thread. My response was to correct another poster's comment that one of the "flashbacks" revealed a surprising connection between Locke and one of the Others. If I remember correctly, I used the quotation marks to differentiate the "flashback" from the "vision quest." In Locke's vision quest, he saw Ben as the TSA person checking baggage for the passengers on the Oceanic flight. Highly unlikely as a "flashback" -- which was my original point.

Unless, of course, the writers have totally "JUMPED THE SHARK" -- which wouldn't surprise me in the least, at this point.

spicyapple said:
You're well advised to just watch the first season, and leave the ending as a mystery. It pretty much goes downhill from then on. I've been following Lost since the beginning and I'm starting to feel it was a waste of my time following the story and various mysterious occurrences.

LOST really should be relabeled Fantasy Island 2.0.
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I agree. And, at my age, I have only myself to blame.

I got sucked into this show over the U.S. Labor Day holiday, when I watched Season 1 and Season 2 over the span of a few days.

I took the writers and producers at their word; that the show would have a realistic ending. Now, I see it going the way of so many other promising shows. They'll drag the story out so long that no one cares about what happens to the survivors, let alone separate them from the Others or what I expect to be yet another surprising batch of survivors. The plane was a 747, after all!

So far this season, they're just dragging it out. Three more episodes to go until the hiatus. I'm sure it'll be some unsettling cliffhanger, only for the season to return in February with more nonsense until the inevitable cliffhanger in May.

End of rant, almost; I just keep thinking about how the writers supposedly said on TV the other evening that we would come to appreciate the Others by the end of this season. And then what? Another season or two or three before the story is resolved?

As much as I like Lost, it's time to wrap it up folks. Not only is torturing innocent people wrong -- as we're led to believe will occur in the next episode -- it's wrong to punish innocent viewers with yet another wasted TV drama premise.

Either you know where the story's going or you don't Abrams. I'm calling you out!
 
Lost was interesting because it was about people stuck on an Island.

They all had some mysterious pasts that lead them to this Island. My opinion, now that there is access off the Island, it no longer makes sense to be there...:confused:
 
They can go on for ever and ever. Now Locke's story is probabaly only half-way... :rolleyes:
I still have the feeling ALL major charatcers of the "Losties" are ex-convicts for one reason or another, and because of their imprisonment everything is known abouth them, and kept on file. The "Others" somehow have gotten all of their files....
But, whatever:
The "true" meaning of the numbers will probably never be explained, I mean the reason of them appearing so often as they do. Referring to them as the "the numerical values to the core environmental and human factors of the Valenzetti Equation" (Lostpedia), is just a reason for using the numbers, the reason why they were picked, but not the reason for them being so powerfull...
We understand the reason for the polar bears to be on the island. But no idea how they can survive in a tropical climate, probably some 60 C warmer than their normal habitat... etc.
 
Magic.

The island is a giant hat, and all of them are rabbits waiting to be pulled out by a giant hand.

Don't laugh, it's just as cromulent a theory as everything else. :)
 
mac 2005 said:
Either you know where the story's going or you don't Abrams. I'm calling you out!
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How true. I was a big Alias fan until sometime during the third season when things became too ridiculous. The story just kept oozing on, with twists...I guess. I would be happy if they said the first season, "we have everything thought out already, we're going to go for three seasons or so, and we will deliver to you a story...a story that we have planned."

Unfortunately, the producers are under the pressure of funding: They have to keep the show interesting or ratings drop and the number of episodes gets cut and scripts need to be changed. Such was the plight of my favorite show, though they were able to write beautifully around their off screen problems.

Where is it going Abrams?
 
benthewraith said:
Lost has been really weakening. :( I'm starting to get Lost.
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From your lips to Abrams & Co.'s ears. This show seemed like it had a lot more promise from the previews.

What's up with killing an innocent rabbit and treating Sawyer like some kind of punching bag. We've asked to suspend our curiosity about the Others for way too long now with not even the slightest hint of a payoff for several episodes now, especially this season.

Time to get with it!
 
previews are misleading

The next 2 episodes change everthing? That sounds like more BS. 2 more episodes then... what? No new eps or even reruns until January? Oh well. Wonder who the guy with the eye patch is? Wonder why all of a sudden we are seeing more extras.

All of these episodes seem to be about reinforcing the character's flaws. Sawyer thinks he's hard and needs no one, but has a heart. Locke is too trusting. Sun may look sweet and innocent, but she is a liar. Jack is stuborn. Oh, and Desmond can see the future.

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For me, Lost jumped the shark the moment Libby got shot and died. What was the point of her entire back-story as a mental patient? Looking back, what a time waster. For the sake of the show, Hurley better get his revenge on Michael.

The swan cartoon > Dharma symbol? Hmm... perhaps not think too much into it.
 
spicyapple said:
For me, Lost jumped the shark the moment Libby got shot and died. What was the point of her entire back-story as a mental patient? Looking back, what a time waster. For the sake of the show, Hurley better get his revenge on Michael.

The swan cartoon > Dharma symbol? Hmm... perhaps not think too much into it.
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I think the few posts that were posted after tonight's episode speaks volumes about where this show is headed. I only wish I could stop watching.

Even when Alias jumped the shark--and Alias jumped far worse than Lost has, though give Abrams time--I largely stuck with the show until the bitter end.
 
MongoTheGeek said:
After Season 1 was a hit they should have called up ABC, signed a 5 year contract and then sat down generate an entire story arc. Figure out all of the holes, write down histories for all of the characters. Get everything roughed out before they even started shooting the next season.
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I'm with you 100%. The only people who should currently be allowed to have a series without the fully developed story arc are: Joss Whedon, Aaron Sorkin, and Ronald D. Moore. Everyone else should have to prove themselves before given the leeway to wing it.
 
Overall, I was happier with tonight's episode compared to the last few (which I thought were just "OK"). We are finally getting some question answered (e.g. why Jack was brought to this other island).
 
It's a lie. They aren't on "another island".. if they were, why in the first episode this season did Ben say that whats-his-face could run to the beach and the plane crash in 3 hours? He never mentioned a boat or a swim. Or maybe it's a major error in writing.
 
atszyman said:
I'm with you 100%. The only people who should currently be allowed to have a series without the fully developed story arc are: Joss Whedon, Aaron Sorkin, and Ronald D. Moore. Everyone else should have to prove themselves before given the leeway to wing it.
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Right, because JJ is a hack. Give me a break, he knows what he's doing. I believe I've read somewhere before that JJ had a 'five year plan' for Lost, so just let it pan out.

I've felt season three has been great so far, it's kept me guessing while letting me connect a few dots along the way; for which I love Lost.
 
yellow said:
It's a lie. They aren't on "another island".. if they were, why in the first episode this season did Ben say that whats-his-face could run to the beach and the plane crash in 3 hours? He never mentioned a boat or a swim. Or maybe it's a major error in writing.
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Who's to say that the Others don't have TWO locations: The facility where Kate, Jack, and Sawyer are now, and the homey village we saw in the season opener?

BTW: The Others have a submarine. IIRC, it's called the "Galaga" (that's what I remember the closed captioning saying when Ben sent Colleen et al to get the yacht).
 
Wasn't too keen on the past 2 episodes. I finally watched series 1 of Lost whilst on holiday (bad weather!) and really didn't care much for it. 2 was great from start to finish. 3 with it's imprisoned characters and with more questions being asked just doesn't stick with me.

Think I'm just going to stop watching now until Feb. Stockpile the episodes until I'm ready to be bored for another 40-50 minutes.
 
clayj said:
Who's to say that the Others don't have TWO locations: The facility where Kate, Jack, and Sawyer are now, and the homey village we saw in the season opener?
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Nothing at all.

I hope that this is the way it pans out because if anything the plot of Lost so far has been pretty simplistic, and it really needs some details like this to make it a bit more complicated.

**** people.

This show sucks now.

It's time to start tying up and thinning down some plot lines, not introducing more to the mountain.
 
rickvanr said:
Right, because JJ is a hack. Give me a break, he knows what he's doing. I believe I've read somewhere before that JJ had a 'five year plan' for Lost, so just let it pan out.

I've felt season three has been great so far, it's kept me guessing while letting me connect a few dots along the way; for which I love Lost.
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A few weeks ago in Entertainment Weekly they had a little Lost flyer where Stephen King sat down with the writing staff. They basically admitted they are developing the story as they go along, and recent episodes are starting to show this more and more. I don't doubt that there may have been an original story line but they are either straying from it or it was not well defined enough to actually fill 5 seasons, or quite possibly it was a bigger success than they had anticipated so they are trying to extend the 5-year story for a few years longer.

Something has definitely gone downhill in the quality of Lost recently and there seems to be a consensus here that this season has been sub-par. We may all end up eating our words and it may prove to be part of the grand plan but based on what I saw when I watched Alias I'm not holding too much hope.
 
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