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atszyman said:
I'm with you 100%. The only people who should currently be allowed to have a series without the fully developed story arc are: Joss Whedon, Aaron Sorkin, and Ronald D. Moore. Everyone else should have to prove themselves before given the leeway to wing it.
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I think that others can be given a chance to start a series but before they get the multiyear contract I would want to see a rough plot arc, eta's on tying off plot threads.

The plots within plots is why I stopped reading the Wheel Of Time books.

yellow said:
It's a lie. They aren't on "another island".. if they were, why in the first episode this season did Ben say that whats-his-face could run to the beach and the plane crash in 3 hours? He never mentioned a boat or a swim. Or maybe it's a major error in writing.
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Could be connected in an unseen way, land bridge out of site. Also there are massive underground tunnels. Some are underwater. Connecting the two is not impossible.
 
MongoTheGeek said:
The plots within plots is why I stopped reading the Wheel Of Time books.
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I stopped because it wasn't going anywhere.. and I grew to despise the female characters.


MongoTheGeek said:
Could be connected in an unseen way, land bridge out of site. Also there are massive underground tunnels. Some are underwater. Connecting the two is not impossible.
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Absolutely. I hope it's a tunnel with one of those bubble monorail cars from James Bond.
 
yellow said:
It's a lie. They aren't on "another island".. if they were, why in the first episode this season did Ben say that whats-his-face could run to the beach and the plane crash in 3 hours? He never mentioned a boat or a swim. Or maybe it's a major error in writing.
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i was thinking along the same lines.
a possible partial explanation is that the village is on the main island, but the Hydra base is on alcatraz. that would account for the fact that ethan and the other guy ran to the crash sites.
also it might explain why sahyd trap failed: they were coming from the water.
if this theory is correct, they must have at least another boat to come here (but i don't think they would have given Michael their only boat).

the main hole in this theory is that sahyd should have noticed alcatraz from the sailboat.

edit: i see that others had similar thoughts. I didn't pick up the submarine thing at all. do they actually say it or is it a deduction? that would explain things neatly.
 
yellow said:
It's a lie. They aren't on "another island".. if they were, why in the first episode this season did Ben say that whats-his-face could run to the beach and the plane crash in 3 hours? He never mentioned a boat or a swim. Or maybe it's a major error in writing.
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I'm pretty sure it is a lie just like the exploding pacemaker which I did not believe for a second.
 
Do you think the Cave that Locke burned the Polar Bear could be the tunnel to the others island?

It seemed odd that the skeleton was wearing a shirt with no blood on it. Possibly that they died running from the others island. How did the bear escape (or was let go) from the cages and got to the second island. I know polar bears can swim, but...

I'm still remaining optimistic about the show, however, I have to Tivo it because of all the commercials. I played back last nights episode in what seemed like 20 minutes.
 
I've often wondered why no one from the crash has bothered to walk around the island on the beach. I'd have done that within the first week.
 
Wow yellow, you've gone from Evangelina Lilly to strips of bacon in your avatar. Has Lost really been that bad? :)
 
yellow said:
This show sucks now.

It's time to start tying up and thinning down some plot lines, not introducing more to the mountain.
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Amen.

This show stands in stark contrast to something like Battlestar Galactica, or 24, both of which manage to be satisfying over the course of a season while actually tying up threads, rather than stringing people along with the false hope that something might actually get resolved.
 
Don't panic said:
I didn't pick up the submarine thing at all. do they actually say it or is it a deduction? that would explain things neatly.
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Ben says to Juliette that the sub is back, and that there's a major situation. I don't, however, recall anyone referring to this as "The Galaga" in a previous episode, as a post above suggested.
 
yellow said:
I stopped because it wasn't going anywhere.. and I grew to despise the female characters.
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You too?

Also... it's a bit daft like, but have they changed the actress for Kate? Her face looks fatter and her eyebrows seems to be shaped differently, and during s3e4 I'm sure she sounded different.

But going back to Series 1 I realised how cheesy it all is. "you have 3 options... RUN... HIDE... or DIE". Just repeating them words over in the style of Russo (however you spell it) just made me burst into laughter. I doubt Borat could write something as cliched and downright contrived as that. That and Claire's speaking moments consisting of little more than screaming "MY BABY" got on my nerves.

I think I said it before. Why oh why can't AOL or whatever it is making Lost to take a leaf out of British shows and maybe, just maybe shrinking the series down or getting more into an episode. That'd be nice.
 
lord patton said:
Ben says to Juliette that the sub is back, and that there's a major situation. I don't, however, recall anyone referring to this as "The Galaga" in a previous episode, as a post above suggested.
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Wow. I completely missed that reference. A sub? I'll have to review that episode. Which one was it again?
 
lord patton said:
Closed captions?!?!? That's cheating!!!!!!!!!! :D

pdpfilms, the part where Ben refers to it as the sub was in last night's episode, near the beginning, when Ben bursts in on Juliette talking to Jack.
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I almost always watch TV shows with closed captioning turned on... lets me pick up on little details like this one. ;)
 
yellow said:
I've often wondered why no one from the crash has bothered to walk around the island on the beach. I'd have done that within the first week.
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Sayid did that season 1. Rousseau captured and tortured him. That was the introduction to her.

spicyapple said:
Wow yellow, you've gone from Evangelina Lilly to strips of bacon in your avatar. Has Lost really been that bad?
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Or perhaps bacon is that good.
/plans trip to the bacon store
//yep, we got one.
///actually its all thing pork but...
////including pork butt
 
MongoTheGeek said:
Sayid did that season 1. Rousseau captured and tortured him. That was the introduction to her.
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But he didn't make it.. or somehow he didn't notice an island 2x the size of Alcatraz Island jsut off the coast?
And if he didn't make it, he never tried again?
Oh wait, he found the cable and followed it into the Jungle.

Bah. I'd make it. :mad:

raggedjimmi said:
Also... it's a bit daft like, but have they changed the actress for Kate? Her face looks fatter and her eyebrows seems to be shaped differently, and during s3e4 I'm sure she sounded different.
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Nope, still Evangeline Lilly, but she definitely looked and sounded different.
More husky. Less Kate-like. She's such an eyesore. :rolleyes: :D
 
yellow said:
But he didn't make it.. or somehow he didn't notice an island 2x the size of Alcatraz Island jsut off the coast?
And if he didn't make it, he never tried again?
Oh wait, he found the cable and followed it into the Jungle.

Bah. I'd make it. :mad:
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Booby traps and a psychopath who beat a battle hardened veteran without even trying. Then glimpses of whatever it is that keeps her paranoid?
 
Don't panic said:
i was thinking along the same lines.
a possible partial explanation is that the village is on the main island, but the Hydra base is on alcatraz. that would account for the fact that ethan and the other guy ran to the crash sites.
also it might explain why sahyd trap failed: they were coming from the water.
if this theory is correct, they must have at least another boat to come here (but i don't think they would have given Michael their only boat).

the main hole in this theory is that sahyd should have noticed alcatraz from the sailboat.

edit: i see that others had similar thoughts. I didn't pick up the submarine thing at all. do they actually say it or is it a deduction? that would explain things neatly.
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Ben tells Juliet that the "sub is back," and that they have some kind of emergency to handle -- Colleen (name?) was shot.
 
atszyman said:
A few weeks ago in Entertainment Weekly they had a little Lost flyer where Stephen King sat down with the writing staff. They basically admitted they are developing the story as they go along, and recent episodes are starting to show this more and more. I don't doubt that there may have been an original story line but they are either straying from it or it was not well defined enough to actually fill 5 seasons, or quite possibly it was a bigger success than they had anticipated so they are trying to extend the 5-year story for a few years longer.

Something has definitely gone downhill in the quality of Lost recently and there seems to be a consensus here that this season has been sub-par. We may all end up eating our words and it may prove to be part of the grand plan but based on what I saw when I watched Alias I'm not holding too much hope.
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Alias is the prime reason I doubt Abrams & Co. -- especially given the fact that season 3 is such a nonevent. The way it's playing out, we don't know anymore today than we did at the end of season 2.

I avoided this show for the first two seasons for fear of being disappointed. I allowed myself to get hooked on it this fall when both seasons were available on DVD. Now I wish I'd resisted. It's so disappointing to look forward to seeing the show and then having nothing interesting happen.
 
Which characters left will have backstories (next 2 weeks)?

So we have two episodes before the hiatus, yes? Which characters will have their back stories flushed out? I think:

1) Kate, because she's so friggin hot.
2) Desmond, because his back story involves the best discovery of last year i.e. that the outside world is aware of the island (so they're not in purgatory) and that non-Dharma folks (his girlfriend) are coming to find them.

It's this second issue that will bring the story forward, and allow us to find out more about the Others (as new mysteries regarding Dharma unfold).
 
Spoilerific

Well that settles it. This is the most predictable season ever. I just read a spoiler for tomarrow's episode. Saw it comming a mile away, but it most likely only a small piece of a bigger pay off later on like everything so far this season. Don't get me wrong. I actually liked the 1st and 3rd episodes this season, but it's still not enough. I think the internet is ruining the experience for me.
 
lord patton said:
So we have two episodes before the hiatus, yes? Which characters will have their back stories flushed out? I think:

1) Kate, because she's so friggin hot.
2) Desmond, because his back story involves the best discovery of last year i.e. that the outside world is aware of the island (so they're not in purgatory) and that non-Dharma folks (his girlfriend) are coming to find them.

It's this second issue that will bring the story forward, and allow us to find out more about the Others (as new mysteries regarding Dharma unfold).
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From what I understand, there is, in fact, a Kate episode coming up. I can't recall if it's Nov. 1 or Nov. 8.
 
Since I don't enjoy watching the good guys be helpless torture victims, I did sudoku puzzles instead of watching last week's episode. Which means I also missed the "next week preview". Is this week's episode looking to be more of the same?

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