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asfalloth

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O2 still down in the UK, walked into EE store in Moorgate, scanned a wee e-sim QR code, immediately started getting emails and 4g data, I was convinced going to EE on the way to Liverpool St Station and home would be a non starter, but very pleasantly surprised.

I know O2 will be all good by the morning, but love the thought of a backup alternative provider on my phone now.
 

Hieveryone

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O2 still down in the UK, walked into EE store in Moorgate, scanned a wee e-sim QR code, immediately started getting emails and 4g data, I was convinced going to EE on the way to Liverpool St Station and home would be a non starter, but very pleasantly surprised.

I know O2 will be all good by the morning, but love the thought of a backup alternative provider on my phone now.

What is eSIM?

I have AT&T and a sim for that
 

Hieveryone

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Ok so I can have my SIM card and a esom so then I’ll have 2 phone numbers?

What’s the point unless you had 2 girlfriends HA! (Kidding!)

Well, I suppose a work phone and home but who wants to be called about work on their cell phone?? I would leave it for the secretary or office phone
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According to your signature you are using old iphone. iPhone Xs.Xs Max have eSim capabilities just like apple watch!

Yeah I have the X
 

MuGeN PoWeR

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Ok so I can have my SIM card and a esom so then I’ll have 2 phone numbers?

What’s the point unless you had 2 girlfriends HA! (Kidding!)

Well, I suppose a work phone and home but who wants to be called about work on their cell phone?? I would leave it for the secretary or office phone
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Yeah I have the X

X doesnt have it. and the other scenario is that if you are travelling abroad and want to use your primary number and temporary number both! if you have a girlfriend then its better to keep two seperate phones otherwise your wife or girlfriend can read the messages LOL :D
 
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Hieveryone

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X doesnt have it. and the other scenario is that if you are travelling abroad and want to use your primary number and temporary number both! if you have a girlfriend then its better to keep two seperate phones otherwise your wife or girlfriend can read the messages LOL :D

I feel you bro hahaha!

What is a temporary number? Like what’s the use case?

like why can’t you just use the primary number all the time?
 

Vermifuge

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I feel you bro hahaha!

What is a temporary number? Like what’s the use case?

like why can’t you just use the primary number all the time?

The rates to use domestic lines internationally can be quite expensive. For example Verizon charges $10 a day or $130 for a month with 2GB of data. With an eSIM I can get a data plan that offers 5 GB for 30 days at only $50. That's 60% more data at less that 40% the cost of Verizon.
 

Hieveryone

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The rates to use domestic lines internationally can be quite expensive. For example Verizon charges $10 a day or $130 for a month with 2GB of data. With an eSIM I can get a data plan that offers 5 GB for 30 days at only $50. That's 60% more data at less that 40% the cost of Verizon.

GOT IT! Makes sense!

Yeah I’d just get a local e-sim for data and stuff if it’s cheaper and just use that number to imessage & check my social media etc.
 

SoN1NjA

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Ok so I can have my SIM card and a esom so then I’ll have 2 phone numbers?

What’s the point unless you had 2 girlfriends HA! (Kidding!)

Well, I suppose a work phone and home but who wants to be called about work on their cell phone?? I would leave it for the secretary or office phone
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Yeah I have the X
Dual coverage
 

andyw715

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Why not have 2 esims and get rid of the slot and associated internals, to further water proof as well.
 

JPack

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Well, I suppose a work phone and home but who wants to be called about work on their cell phone?? I would leave it for the secretary or office phone

People with real jobs that need two phones need to answer their phone even after hours.
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Why not have 2 esims and get rid of the slot and associated internals, to further water proof as well.

Because Apple would act as a gatekeeper to carriers. Apple controls eSIM and any carrier wanting to access eSIM needs to pay Apple.

Unless you're ejecting your SIM card underwater, there's no impact on water resistance.
 

Vermifuge

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People with real jobs that need two phones need to answer their phone even after hours.
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Because Apple would act as a gatekeeper to carriers. Apple controls eSIM and any carrier wanting to access eSIM needs to pay Apple.

Is that so? Thats pretty interesting. Do you have an article or document that describes this practice?
 

Hieveryone

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People with real jobs that need two phones need to answer their phone even after hours.
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Because Apple would act as a gatekeeper to carriers. Apple controls eSIM and any carrier wanting to access eSIM needs to pay Apple.

Unless you're ejecting your SIM card underwater, there's no impact on water resistance.

Maybe. I would just delegate duties
 

JPack

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Is that so? Thats pretty interesting. Do you have an article or document that describes this practice?

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/13/app...ig-but-it-wont-risk-carrier-relationship.html

It's clear Apple controls exactly which carrier can offer services through Apple eSIM. We don't know how this is done, either through revenue sharing or something more direct.
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Maybe. I would just delegate duties

Directors and other executives don't get paid to simply delegate. It isn't a blue collar 9-5 job. Executives get paid to make the right decisions. Those decisions are often time sensitive.
 
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1rottenapple

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O2 still down in the UK, walked into EE store in Moorgate, scanned a wee e-sim QR code, immediately started getting emails and 4g data, I was convinced going to EE on the way to Liverpool St Station and home would be a non starter, but very pleasantly surprised.

I know O2 will be all good by the morning, but love the thought of a backup alternative provider on my phone now.
Esim are great! I used it to travel in November. I activated the service while in the USA. Landed in Asia, turned on my cellular on the esim and I had data! this will revolutionize my travel habits.
 

Lyn2012

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I’ve now got an active eSim and I must say it is great to have both lines on the same phone.

However it’s not to good in that I had to change my home carrier to get the eSim, and I now have 1-2Mbps instead of 20Mbps + download speeds. WHY Apple????? Why make it so difficult for your customers when it would have been far simpler all round to have all phones worldwide dual physical Sim?
 

Vermifuge

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I’ve now got an active eSim and I must say it is great to have both lines on the same phone.

However it’s not to good in that I had to change my home carrier to get the eSim, and I now have 1-2Mbps instead of 20Mbps + download speeds. WHY Apple????? Why make it so difficult for your customers when it would have been far simpler all round to have all phones worldwide dual physical Sim?

What exactly are you blaming on Apple? It’s upnto the carriers to support eSim. The iPhone is the first widely sold dual sim (eSim) device here in America and it will take a while for the carriers to support it.
 

Wide opeN

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Yeah I don't even have a legit use for two lines, but still can't wait to activate two SEPARATE Company lines.
[doublepost=1546025228][/doublepost]Yeah I don't even have a legit use for two lines, but still can't wait to activate two SEPARATE Company lines.
 

mnsportsgeek

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What exactly are you blaming on Apple? It’s upnto the carriers to support eSim. The iPhone is the first widely sold dual sim (eSim) device here in America and it will take a while for the carriers to support it.
He's asking for two slim slots like all the new iphones in China have. Not sure what that has to do with carriers.
 

Vermifuge

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I’ve now got an active eSim and I must say it is great to have both lines on the same phone.

However it’s not to good in that I had to change my home carrier to get the eSim, and I now have 1-2Mbps instead of 20Mbps + download speeds.

He's asking for two slim slots like all the new iphones in China have. Not sure what that has to do with carriers.

These problems would not exist is the carriers simplified the process.
 

riverfreak

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The rates to use domestic lines internationally can be quite expensive. For example Verizon charges $10 a day or $130 for a month with 2GB of data. With an eSIM I can get a data plan that offers 5 GB for 30 days at only $50. That's 60% more data at less that 40% the cost of Verizon.
Dredging up an old thread but I’m curious how this works in practice. Can you place your main domestic line into airplane mode (or at least disable cellular data) when traveling outside of your home area?
 
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