lolkthxbai
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I think the whole big screen trend is what really helped Samsung explode. Besides that it was mostly just imitation and marketing.
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Low-Cost iPhone '5C' May Include 8-Megapixel Camera
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Vanilla35
macrumors 68040
It is cheap...it's actually a lot cheaper. Almost 50%. For people on a contract still (most in the US) it's relatively free.
If you want a upgraded camera, get the 5S. You can say the same thing for people who upgraded from the 4S to the 5. It was almost exactly the same camera.
As soon as I heard they were selling a cheaper iPhone, I immediately knew it would be better selling than the 5S. Simple, it had to be "up to spec" enough to run iOS7, and, people who buy iPhones buy cheap. Sure, there are a bunch of people who hold out their upgrades for the latest iPhone. But everyone else? They buy the old versions. Do you know how many people bought the iPhone 4 and 4S early 2013? Tons. Not just based on the amount of sales they made in charts, but I noticed it blatantly around campus at school. So as long as apple isn't selling just one product within the same segment, they'll buy the cheaper one.
People want an iPhone for the reliability, apps, and maybe camera. They don't care about anything else.
WilliamLondon
macrumors 68000
Huh? Rumours are rumours, they aren't facts, there is no product that has been announced or launched, just a bunch of rumour mongers discussing what amounts to disagreements (or agreements as the case may be) among blind people about whether the sky is indeed black or purple (sorry, no offence to the blind).
It even goes further than that, however, meaning the general agreement here that Apple will do something they've never done, which is: release a new product into an existing product family that does the same thing (virtually or totally) as the existing product but for cheaper? Really?
One only need look at Apple's existing product lines and figure out (aside from price) what differentiates each product in each family. We have lots of history and existing product lines to examine, we don't even have to do much guessing.
It would be so un-Apple to release a product that addresses a contract issue with mostly (as you point out) US carriers.
Vanilla35
macrumors 68040
I think you just added a lot more complexity than what was really needed. I simply said it would be cheap, especially under contract.
On the other hand, I think apple would totally make a cheaper iPhone. And it's become painstakingly obvious at this point, that that's what they're doing.
I don't think you'll see that at all. Either this new iPhone 5C will be the $0 with 2-year agreement phone and iPhone 5 will be the $99 phone, the 5C will come in two storage capacities to put it at $0 and $99 (meaning no iPhone 5 sales), or the 5C will be $0 and the 5S will start at $99 for 16GB. I guarantee you Apple wants to ditch all of the 30-pin dock connector devices it can, maybe even at the expense of the iPod classic.
Don't forget, like a lot of people are, that the key markets for this new phone are NOT the U.S. Most people buy phones from one of the big providers on a contract, even with the new options. If they all move heavily toward T-Mobile's "we'll give you cheaper/more flexible plans and let you pay in installments or just BYOD," then this phone means more in the U.S.
I also hope nobody was shocked that this phone is going to have the same exact camera that is in the iPhone 5.
Impressive rumored specs, but sorry, $500 is not very budget for a phone. I'll pass. (I don't own a smartphone). I'll probably just replace my ipod touch with the new mini, and save some money in the process. I kind of like being able to talk on the phone and (take notes, edit my calendar, look things up on the web etc) that I can do now with 2 devices. They may sell a lot of these, but I don't think the buyers will be from the intended user base. Probably just existing ios users who want to buy a cheaper model.
I really don't think it would have to be a low spec device, and I strongly disagree with people who seem to think a retina screen is not possible at low prices. I am reading this on my 4th gen ipod touch which has a retina screen and sold for $220 new. As compared to the iphone model at the time, it had lower battery life, worse camera, no gps chip and obviously no cellular radio. Otherwise it was more or less the same device, at a fraction of the cost of the iphone. The iphone just has incredible profit margins that just aren't sustainable with today's competition and/or if apple wants to expand its user base.
Remember how apple blew people away with $500 ipad pricing when many thought it would be a $1,000+ device? They could still do the same thing here and come out with a $250 iphone. It's very possible. Look at what the chinese knockoff iphone lookalike android phones sell for with very similar specs. Hell, the current ipod touch is $230. It doesn't cost more than $20 for a cellular radio + GPS chip. If they still want to add a premium to the iphone to prevent from cannabalizing ipod sales, fine, make it $300, but any more than that and it's not a budget item and people like me will look at ipad mini or the competition instead.
Vanilla35
macrumors 68040
These are the same specs the iPhone 5 had last year, for $750. So 1 year later, $450-$550 sounds about right
Blakjack
macrumors 68000
All apple is doing is i riding focus to their old phone from the year before. Instead of just sayin, "here by our phone from last year at a lower price." They are now giving that phone a new brand. They are bringing excitement and notice to that phone. By offering different colors and giving it a name of its own, it gives the illusion that this is a totally different phone
Who want's cheaper iPhone?
Seriously? Who is going to get the cheaper, inferior iPhone? People want the best, newest product from Apple. You might as well get a iPhone 3G "s" if you want cheaper!
Seriously? Who is going to get the cheaper, inferior iPhone? People want the best, newest product from Apple. You might as well get a iPhone 3G "s" if you want cheaper!
StyxMaker
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I would venture to say that the vast majority of people who have and will be buying iPhones have never heard of any of the iPhone related 'scandals' you seem to be so concerned about.
captain kaos
macrumors 65816
I hate to say it but id say there are better phone camera out there, such as the Moto x, HTC One that use the Clear Pixel Technology. When i see my brothers Nexus 4 shots they are much better than the iphone 5's. Apple honestly is slipping back a bit, perhaps even lazy.
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Yep. I was really thinking the coloured would be a phone with slightly better internals, and a possible "pro" model in metal, but it does look like Apple is going to get the most $$ from the 5 internals with a cheaper exterior. Pity.
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Yep. I was really thinking the coloured would be a phone with slightly better internals, and a possible "pro" model in metal, but it does look like Apple is going to get the most $$ from the 5 internals with a cheaper exterior. Pity.
captain kaos
macrumors 65816
Me too. I was hoping not, but it looks that way.
Anyone know what Apples general pricing is for the older phone in the Apple store were? If the 5C is just a colourful 5, and they price it as a "new iphone" then its a complete p*** take if you ask me!
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And therefore they can charge more $$ for what is an older phone.....
BvizioN
macrumors 603
I think the image size (megapixels) is one of the biggest misconception! When people hear about hight megapixel they automatically assume better quality photos. Even when you go on the digital store after a camera, the first thing the store staff will praise is megapixels. And people really go for it. And then they say.... not really very nice quality for a 16 megapixel camera.
captain kaos
macrumors 65816
I totally agree on MP size, id be happy with what the HTC One has done, 5 MP but with the Clear Pixel technology. I think im a bit disappointed that the rumour is them using the exact same camera as the 5, which under dark conditions when you don't want to use the flash, is pretty awful!
Seems the 5C is simply a cheaper-produced replacement of the current iPhone 5. Somewhat silly that people wouldn't want to buy 'last years technology' but are perfectly content to buy last years tech in a new cheaper plastic packaging.
Brilliant move by Apple 😉
Brilliant move by Apple 😉
I believe the iphone 4 and 4s will disappear. Only 4 inches screens with lighting conector.
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That last year technology is still better in terms of using experience and no lagginess than most android phones. It will move iOS 7 without any issue. It going to sell millions and millions.
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The casing will be as nice as the case you buy for it.
But many people DO buy last year's technology. That's why Apple wants to make it cheaper to make.
Clear Pixel tech is nice, but you still need the MPs. The One's camera is only good if you're taking instagram sized photos otherwise the pics will come out blurry at hell.
Not necessarily, there are lots of tricks that can be used to improve dynamic range of a sensor and reduce noise which together can yield better results even for much smaller pixel sizes. Using on sensor analogue to digital conversion for instance can produce a 12MP sensor that beats the current 8MP due to much lower read noise.
brdeveloper
macrumors 68030
Yes... there are Android apps which can do it too. But can you pre-focus and then trigger the shutter in the same button?