Low End PowerMac G5?

[bwintx]

I think she paid for a REAL copy of Windows XP Pro. Not a Ghost disk image. But, I'll have to check.

This machine runs so poorly I asked her if she was running Oracle Database in the background! Just a joke. Just about 100 processes, seemingly useless processing, running in background. My question is does anyone from Dell actually use the machines they sell? Or do they just not give a Damn.

Spyware? Run AdAware on it and see. Then show her Mozilla Firefox and tell her to sin no more with Internet Explorer.

 

[aethier]

well it is updated, identical to the rumors.

i don't mind even though they are close to the powerbook specs, its better to upgrade what they can, then cripple both lineups so that powerbook users are happy (and as i powerbook user, i couldn't care less if the ibook specs are getting better then that of my 1.25 ghz 15 incher) i still have a better gpu, ram, screen etc

aethier

 

[cube]

More yuck

What's the point of having a 64-bit processor if you can only install 4 GiB of memory? Okay, don't tell me the rest is vmem on disk.

 

[Duane Martin]

What's the point of having a 64-bit processor if you can only install 4 GiB of memory?

What's the point of having a 32-bit processor if you can only install less than 4GB memory (in just about every 32 bit processor machine every made by any company)? So what were you hoping for? A model that supported more Ram than the base Dual G5? A model that supports the full 16 exabytes? If you only need a single processor, low-priced G5, you only need 4GB of Ram. No single piece of software can currently use more than 4GB of Ram, so in a single processor machine, why have more?

Forgive me. I really didn't think Apple would release this computer. Despite people on this forum clamouring for it, I do not believe there is enough of a market to justify the confused product matrix. But I was wrong! Wrong, wrong, wrong! At least about Apple releasing the machine. Let's see how many of the potential market don't buy this machine for reason's as stated above.

 

[Eric_Z]

What's the point of having a 32-bit processor if you can only install less than 4GB memory (in just about every 32 bit processor machine every made by any company)?

This sentence makes no sense, at all.

The point of a 32bit CPU is that memory transactions over 64k become more efficient and you get to use 32bit integers. Both theese two tasks are common enough to warrant a jump in "bitness". Tasks requiering over 4GB of mem (note that most "32bit" CPU's have more then 32bit adressing) or 64 bit integers has been rare, are rare and will be rare (though undoubtedly more common then now). Infact most of the integer operations used today are of a 8 or 16 bit nature, and we live in a 32bit world and have done so for quite some time...

What's so great about 64bit CPUs theese days is that they are in general better built then there 32bit counterparts.

 

[AidenShaw]

3:1 bus!



Note that it has a 600 MHz bus, not the 900 MHz bus of the dual 1.8?

Now, who was it who complained about the use of the word "crippled" ???

 

[AidenShaw]

LOL - "64-bit lifestyle"

and this will be a great way to get into the 64 bit lifestyle...

Thanks for the laugh in the morning!

"64-bit lifestyle"

o I assume you realize that this doesn't exist yet - OS X is a 32-bit operating system. You won't have a chance of a "64-bit lifestyle" until 10.4 ships, and even then you'll need new applications written for 64-bit. (And, BTW, Windows and Linux for 64-bit IA64 and AMD64/EM64T are shipping (IA64 and Linux) or available for free preview downloads (Windows for AMD64/EM64T) - so any "64-bit lifestyling" is happening on the dark side. )

o I assume that you realize that this crippled box cannot exploit the main advantage of 64-bit CPUs - the ability to use more than 4 GiB of RAM. It can only hold "32-bits" of RAM.

 

[wdlove]

well it is updated, identical to the rumors.

i don't mind even though they are close to the powerbook specs, its better to upgrade what they can, then cripple both lineups so that powerbook users are happy (and as i powerbook user, i couldn't care less if the ibook specs are getting better then that of my 1.25 ghz 15 incher) i still have a better gpu, ram, screen etc

aethier

Exactly where were these rumors posted about this upgrade? I visit here everyday, but saw no mention of a G5 update. Are there rumors for more updates in the future?

 

[cube]

This sentence makes no sense, at all.

The point of a 32bit CPU is that memory transactions over 64k become more efficient and you get to use 32bit integers. Both theese two tasks are common enough to warrant a jump in "bitness". Tasks requiering over 4GB of mem (note that most "32bit" CPU's have more then 32bit adressing) or 64 bit integers has been rare, are rare and will be rare (though undoubtedly more common then now). Infact most of the integer operations used today are of a 8 or 16 bit nature, and we live in a 32bit world and have done so for quite some time...

What's so great about 64bit CPUs theese days is that they are in general better built then there 32bit counterparts.

Wrong. Ask anybody who has been buying serious computers for years. The main point of 64-bit processors is addressing space (sorry, no hacks on non-junk CPUs).

 

[Eric_Z]

Wrong. Ask anybody who has been buying serious computers for years. The main point of 64-bit processors is addressing space (sorry, no hacks on non-junk CPUs).

From the perspective of the general consumer, this point is moot. Wich was what I was trying to say. Thanks for pointing it out.