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There was plenty at my local family owned non-chain small supermarket. I suspect that the much local bigger chain stores are totally out.
Spray and wipes are both rare to find. Amazon has those products restricted to healthcare only, but I wonder if they realize that by doing that they're depriving the general public of the products they need in order to not end up making a trip to a medical facility. I realize those places need to clean also, but some of us have none.
I have more TP than one person can use in a year, tempted to put out a barter call to my FB friends...
I have more TP than one person can use in a year, tempted to put out a barter call to my FB friends...
So far during this crisis I've found all our food etc. needs have been fully met by the smaller family owned business around us.
I was in our local butcher's the other day and a guy walked in totally amazed at the full stock of food available to purchase, saying they he'd just been to Kroger and they had no fresh uncooked meats for sale.
#SupportYourLocalStores
Past actual cash transactions: small dairy farmers around here who usually put the name of some unfortunate bovine up on a chalkboard during the year (for aging out or for having kicked once too often while in a stall for milking) have only recently had their annual butchering done back in February, so will often trade a few cuts of Bessie from their spare freezer for some of a neighboring crop farmer's set-aside stash of apples, potatoes, carrots, cabbage etc.
I suspect that aside from farmer to farmer transactions like that, regular barter in rural communities persists apace, although perhaps now more like trading use of a chainsaw for a couple packs of TP rather than for helping the other guy replace a pulley-system clothesline for the spring season. Heh, there are a lot of jokes about how many people does it take to change out such a clothesline, but probably none of them has involved toilet paper in the past. Maybe there is something new under the sun after all.
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It’s in stock in my area, but stores in my area are only allowing one item of Lysol per Transaction. [I’m not a hoarder, and I don’t believe in doing that, as anyone that has a logical mindset, realizes that items will come back in stock, it just might take a little longer given shortages.]
Anyways, So what I did was, I Purchased a 56 ounce industrial size Container of Lysol disinfectant spray from my local hardware store (Which has considerably no crowds whatsoever, discrete and it’s small enough where I know where all the products are, that way I can spend the shortest amount of time possible in the store itself),
I have these smaller little ’3 ounce’ empty bottles at home, and I filled them with the Lysol spray, that way I can carry a compact one with me, which allows me to spray my Kevlar gloves, any vehicle controls, and simply wipe it down with a clean microfiber cloth. I find that spray actually goes a much longer way versus wipes, which are also very limited and are exponentially more expensive in terms of how quickly you can go through them.
You what? There is no 56 oz. can of spray. There's 40 oz and up disinfectant concentrates you portion out and dilute to usable strength.
Home Depot and Lowes are a mess, and so I found Ace to be a better place since no one ever thinks about going to Ace.
Be careful using Lysol spray that contains Clorox, I used it on a spot where the cat puked and it bleached the carpet, not much, enough that it is noticable.
Lysol has never used bleach in their products. You may be thinking of a Lysol product with hydrogen peroxide, which is a weaker oxidizing chemical, and can sometimes discolor fabrics. Even Clorox wipes don't contain bleach. Clorox is a separate company from Lysol which is owned by another, non-related company. Certain Clorox sprays don't contain bleach, and some do at germicidal concentrations in a stabilized solution. Sodium hypochlorite AKA bleach is unstable in water solutions after about 24 hours. It degrades itself. BZK, the active germicidal/virucide in Lysol spray doesn't stain or oxidize color in fabrics.
Fun fact: Bleach itself you buy in Clorox bottles has a shelf life. It slowly begins to degrade just after manufacture.
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C’mon Zenny, I never inferred can, I said ‘container’. (It’s not aerosol based), it’s just a simple solution jug With a detachable nozzle/pour spout. And it’s not concentrated, it’s just your ‘all purpose cleaner’ for germ killing, deodorization, soaps, etc.
Here’s what I micronized it into: works rather well, as a ‘Pen-like‘ spray applicator-
Ouch. You should have picked up the concentrate version. Makes several gallons of the product. Though it may have been sold out.
Where might I find spritzers like that? I haven't considered using a BZK liquid in a small spritzer until your posts.
before we get carried away isn't a disinfectant mainly germicidal not effective on viral contamination??
amazon.com is your bzk friend
ck out the amazon customer questions:
-Generally you will use 10ml per 1/2 gallon of distilled water to make a hand sanitizer. It may go +/- by some ounces of water to get the right amount of foam depending on the manufacturer of the foam dispenser.
-Do NOT mix benzalkonium with any other soaps or bleach. Mixing with typical soaps that contain sulonates or sulfates will deactivate the benzalkonium chloride (it's cationic whereas soaps are anionic).
amazon.com is your bzk friend
Benzalkonium Chloride 50%, Concentrate 500ml, NF Compound Your Own Zephiran Chloride Replacement, Quaternary Ammonia Compound , Antiseptic Agent
remove antiseptic agent from description
www.amazon.com
ck out the amazon customer questions:
-Generally you will use 10ml per 1/2 gallon of distilled water to make a hand sanitizer. It may go +/- by some ounces of water to get the right amount of foam depending on the manufacturer of the foam dispenser.
-Do NOT mix benzalkonium with any other soaps or bleach. Mixing with typical soaps that contain sulonates or sulfates will deactivate the benzalkonium chloride (it's cationic whereas soaps are anionic).
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I admit, I overpaid for that larger Lysol container. This was about three weeks ago, right when we were seeing an increase in cases, and I’m pretty sure that hardware store I purchased from, was over pricing/gouging customers, which was later reported. But, it was the only one they had on the shelf and I figured that was a score for me, considering you couldn’t even find toilet paper within a ~60 mile radius.😁
As for that little spritzer bottles, you can find those near the Optometry sections at brick-and-mortar retail stores. They’re usually filled with some cheap lens cleaner, I dump/clean them and put the Lysol in place. Brilliant Little idea that’s portable And compact.
Germ is a catchall informal word for anything that carries disease. Bacteria and viruses are germs.
If you're buying a BZK concentrate, buy it from a lab products producer. You can read their random test reports and judge for yourself. I bought about 3 liters months ago of the 50% solution and measure it out using protective gloves and guards to make a slightly higher than commercial solution dilution for disinfecting high traffic areas outside the house and inside if I know there's going to be skin contact. That bottle you linked is about 15 bucks cheaper than typical retail prices which isn't bad, but I can't find a lab quality report for it.
You'll want to read the CDC reports on surface application of various chemical compounds that deactivate the virus via destruction of its "walls" and on surfaces. The time and tested strength varies so you'll have to make judgement. You can use food grade glycerin (which is dirt cheap) to make a hand sanitizer provided you dilute it correctly or add glycerin to make it keep wet on certain surfaces longer, especially on windier or warmer days.
Ah. Yeah I've found Ace to be a decent place to buy anything since they do curbside pickup only and are taking names to prevent hoarding. You say that and I forgot I had a bunch of those empty bottles but for screen cleaning liquid. Guess I can put them to use now.
There should be some relief in a few weeks, at least on the IPA front. I know a few executives at major oil companies that are working around the clock to extract or convert crude into compounds needed in medicine. Propene is a key ingredient for alcohol, as well as denaturing substances. But I read Exxon makes IPA themselves to sell to other companies, and they're apparently a few weeks away from delivering a lot of that stuff to first responders and hospitals via distribution depots.
You can still buy 91-99% IPA right now in gallon form from certain hardware stores for normal prices. You simply have to pick it up from them and let them make a copy of your ID, which gets shared with other branches. You can use an online calculator to figure out how much steam distilled water you need to add to dilute it down to 70%.
Doesn't use BZK, but uses something better AFAIK going by the SDS. I had no idea Costco sold this as we simply get the Tide and antibacterial hand wash soap every other month. I'll have to look for this from now on. Can you please tell me what the jug size is?Found a 2Gal jug of Lysol at Costco recently, the last one for that day.
Nice. Will have to keep an eye out for that. I'd recommend putting that in a spray bottle and misting packages and your mailbox, door handles/knobs, etc.
I find soap good enough for my needs and that's no lye. *rim shot*
If you're sitting at home with nothing but time on your hands, soap, water and a lot of elbow grease is more than enough. Wiping with anti-bacterial cleaners makes quick work of things, but what are you gonna do with all that time sitting at home, self quarantined? I don't like anti-bacterial because it gives rise to super bugs (natural selection) that are resistant to regular cleaner and antibiotics.
If you're sitting at home with nothing but time on your hands, soap, water and a lot of elbow grease is more than enough. Wiping with anti-bacterial cleaners makes quick work of things, but what are you gonna do with all that time sitting at home, self quarantined? I don't like anti-bacterial because it gives rise to super bugs (natural selection) that are resistant to regular cleaner and antibiotics.
No, glycerin is hydrophilic. It should cause the BZK to remain on a surface far longer than other modifying liquids or stabilizers.
The data is fairly slim and almost all done in vitro and not in vivo. Also, a lot of elbow grease isn't needed. Soap is a surfactant, it breaks the fatty bonds in germs and allows it to be deactivated and wash most of the RNA away with dead remnants left on your hands and then smeared onto a hand towel. You're also confusing antibacterial with antibiotic. Triclosan, BZK, et al. are not antibiotics. Antibiotic abuse causes superbugs to develop from mutation.
You're not scrubbing in for surgery at home. A light firmness is all you need. Your hands should never become raw after multiple washes in a day. Soap in itself kills germs. Any antibacterial agent added to it leaves a film on your skin that slows down the growth of new bacteria from touching things.
Xylitol, a sugar alcohol, is a germicidal when it comes to your oral health. Citric acid in a strong enough concentration is an antibacterial agent. Hot water at 165* F is a fairly amazing antibacterial agent, too. Provided you're not washing your hands in that hot water.
IPA is a powerful chemical antibacterial. 10 seconds of exposure with a 70% solution kills COVID19 among other and more serious germs. It's been around for donkeys years. You could hand wash yourself using it and not have a problem outside of needing to moisturize your skin. 30% vinegar solution is also a powerful antibacterial/germicidal.
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