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iMac M1 has exactly the same benchmarks than all the other Macs with the same M1 processor!…
iMac M1 has exactly the same benchmarks than all the other Macs with the same M1 processor!…
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M1 iMac is Up to 56% Faster Than Prior-Generation High-End 21.5-Inch iMac
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With the fans it should be able to sustain a more continuous thrashing like the M1 MacBook Pro.
Holy shiii, that looks so much better. Still not a fan of white big bezels, but this is better than Apple's Xiaomi-inspired beast.
100% correct !
M1 (Pro & Mini) has been running circles around the many Intel machines I use daily at home and work.
I feel bad for Intel that supplied chips to Apple for over 15 years...
I stand corrected about my criticisms in another thread–this machine will serve users like me who are too often in-between "consumer" and "pro." (the consumer variant covers >90% of my needs but there is often 1-feature that the only the pro version offers.)
However... I am recalling some of the Intel transition and even the PPC transition headaches: there are a few mission critical software components that I run in Parallels-Windows or with WINE.
This is pointing to me to either:
However... I am recalling some of the Intel transition and even the PPC transition headaches: there are a few mission critical software components that I run in Parallels-Windows or with WINE.
This is pointing to me to either:
- The next macMini and a low-end Intel NUC for those nuance times. OR
- Mid-range Intel or AMD machine with Linux running a VirtualBox for those situations.
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That is so incredibly dope.
I don't mind the white bezels, but all-white with colored stands would've been perfect.
These numbers are very encouraging. The current high end, pro Intel powered iMac just barely outperforms the newest mid-range household iMac that costs half the price. I see people comparing these values to the highest end Intel chip, but that's a poor comparison because the current M1 iMac isn't trying to compete with a pro configuration. With numbers like this coming through on a mid-range setup, it's clear that a pro M1 iMac when it appears will be spectacular. I don't think there's any reason to dunk on Intel, and I'm sure the upcoming 27"+ iMac will be only some fraction (25%+) faster than Intel's best, but this is clearly the future of where chips are heading. I'll be right there ready to buy the new high end iMac when it's available to replace my current 27" version.
Until Apple releases something other than the M1, everyone needs to stop assuming they know what is coming.
We have no idea what Apple has in mind for higher end pro workflow options.
All we know right now is that they can fit the m1 in to various different shaped boxes that all do about the same stuff at about the same speed.
The future ASi roadmap is totally unknown right now.
We have no idea what Apple has in mind for higher end pro workflow options.
All we know right now is that they can fit the m1 in to various different shaped boxes that all do about the same stuff at about the same speed.
The future ASi roadmap is totally unknown right now.
You think about it too, if the iMac got rid of the chin and the bezels, how would you even know it's an iMac by looking at it? There's a branding issue here. You wouldn't want Mac computers that just look like a monitor. Something about it has to say "iMac". That may sound silly, but design is about a lot of things. Personally, I wanted more of a redesign and the removal of the chins, but I now think who cares. The iMac is a winning design, it's probably a good thing they aren't screwing with it too much.
It could still have bezels, still have an Apple logo, still have interesting design to it.
The "chin" is not needed to understand it's an Apple product, nor do we want the iMac as a product to always have such an arbitrary limitation.
Good suggestion, but I am constantly a "tweener." I am always the person for whom the typical household-version of the device is sufficient except for running that one application I use only in summer or that-other-one I use bimonthly.
Azure might be overkill in my particular use-case. Hence my 2015-27inch iMac that I am looking to replace in the next 1-2 years: At the time I did not need the Screen-Size, but I needed the GPU at purchase.
So I am waiting to see what a new Mac mini looks like in a year or two. I might either be buying a Mini and a low-end NUC, or buying a mid range Intel or AMD set-up with Linux.
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Oh, I had no idea. Thanks for the tip. I only ordered this with the 2TB SSD which felt like a huge splurge at the time. I’m still only using about 900GB on the drive since I have a NAS. I consider this iMac a total screamer and it’s never choked on whatever I threw at it (RAW images, 4K HEVC files, multi-stream playback in FCP. It’s a great machine. I’ll probably keep it around for a while and just buy a pro-Apple-Silicon notebook this year for the portable powerhouse.
I'm pretty sure I used the word chin before I ever used a computer.I can't wait until some tech blogger starts complaining about the "foot" (stand) or the "ears" (side bezels) or the "tail" (power cord) so people can all start suddenly fixating on that.
Face it: the word "chin" wasn't in your vocabulary of computer design terms until you all started reading it on the internet and were told it was bad.
Unlike the PPC, the only "customer" for the M1 is Apple. This looks more like optimising their chip manufacturing capability than lack of headroom in the design. Why would you produce different chips when the same one is capable of working well in laptops, tablets and desktops? 3.2GHz is already a pretty decent clock speed though, so I'd expect the next chip to be based on more cores, maybe more or different cache, more memory, perhaps some speed bump on the clock
So your expectations are covered by basically anything changing?
I think you'll be right..
If you get rid of the chin, then either the screen needs to sit ridiculously high on the stand to be at comfortable eye level or the computer will be super short and unergonomic. In the first case the stand proportions will be too tall, and would look strange, or, with a good-looking stand of aesthetic proportions, the entire iMac will look really shrimpy and sit too far below eye level. Apple could put the iMac on an adjustable stand more like the XDR display, but that sounds expensive to me.
In the sense of “the bottom part of a computer monitor“? Because that’s obviously what I’m talking about.I'm pretty sure I used the word chin before I ever used a computer.
Sure would. My hope had been that it look exactly like the Pro Display.
Very true.
My main concern is the iMac running at 3.2GHz and also needing a fan, when the MBAir is fanless and supercompact and also at 3.2GHz.
That’s why I wonder what is going on? This isn’t even a Rev2 M1, just the same damn thing in a machine that should be able to handle at least a little more.
Is the M1 so overtaxed already that it can’t handle a 10% upclock in a larger enclosure with more cooling?
Just for comparison, one could get more than 10% speed by overclocking a G3 iBook with a little solder. Those same G3 chips of the same generation were running faster in the iMac because they could. But it seems the iMac simply can’t.
but bad for performance? People want the fastest CPUs if its a desktop system
I would think most folks the M1 iMacs is targeted at don't really care what CPUs are inside.
I think the Mac desktop(s) targeted at the market segment that you're in has not been released yet, if there's going to be one. It looks like replaceable memory and storage are probably out except for the Mac Pro tier.