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M1 Mac RAM and SSD Upgrades Found to Be Possible After Purchase

Macbookprodude said:
The word here is OVERPRICED.. TELL ME ,DO YOU HAVE 6000 DOLLARS TO BLOW ? I DON'T AND MOST DON'T - AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE FOOD SHORTAGES.. WHO WANTS TO SPEND 6000 ON A NON-UPGRADABLE PAPER WEIGHT ??? Apple does not care.
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But you a have a computer or other device, because if you didn't, you wouldn't be writing these comments. Which means you don't need to buy a new computer and you don't have to worry about whether you need a $6 000 computer or not. Yu can put your money towards buying food.

Isn't that great?
 
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Macbookprodude said:
The word here is OVERPRICED.. TELL ME ,DO YOU HAVE 6000 DOLLARS TO BLOW ? I DON'T AND MOST DON'T - AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE FOOD SHORTAGES.. WHO WANTS TO SPEND 6000 ON A NON-UPGRADABLE PAPER WEIGHT ??? Apple does not care.
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It's not like everyone is obliged to go and buy those $6000 machines smh. It's not mandated by law.
Most people would just need a MacBook Air or much lower spec MacBook Pro without much issue, which would be half or 1/5 the cost of those $ 6000 machines.
I assume you know that.
Also, Apple stoping manufacturing those machines won't help solving food problems cause those infrastructures has nothing to do with food production boost.
 
Macbookprodude said:
Really, i DON'T need computer anymore.. its so sad Apple wants to keep a lot away from its M1 processor by JACKING THE PRICE to the STRATOSPHERE.. AND SINCE WE ARE IN MIDDLE OF PANDEMIC I am surprised fools like those on here are spending 6000 dollars on a Piece of Crap paperweight which you can't upgrade. Many reasons why I DESPISE Apple of today and want it to just die - Not only is it a tech giant now, but they don't care about their user base.. BUT IN THE END OF THIS - UNDERSTAND ONE THING - APPLE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THE MAC, AS THE I TOYS + IPHONES MAKE MOST OF THEIR MONEY. MAC IS 10 PERCENT OF THE MARKET AND ALWAYS WILL BE. I liked the Apple of Steve Jobs. Cook is not an innovator, and his keynotes are ABSOLUTELY VILE and filled with disgusting propaganda which tries to get even poor people to buy their overpriced junk.. Not saying M1 is junk, just they LIED and stated their computers, except MAC PRO will be more affordable for all since the move from Intel. I WAS WRONG AND WE WERE ALL LIED TO ! I LIVE IN UKRAINE AND I CAN BARELY AFFORD MY RENT, MUCH LESS A 6000 DOLLARS COMPUTER WHICH TO US IS OVER 150 HRYVEN'(UKRAINIAN MONEY).
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YOU NEED HELP.

Mac market share if anything is growing because of the M series. They have options starting with the Mini and Air on up. I and my whole team (Network engineers) use Mac’s as our primary computers every day at work. Great toys I guess???
 
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TheMacDaddy1 said:
YOU NEED HELP.

Mac market share if anything is growing because of the M series. They have options starting with the Mini and Air on up. I and my whole team (Network engineers) use Mac’s as our primary computers every day at work. Great toys I guess???
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Key word: my whole team (Network engineers) - For your company, yes you can afford 6000 16 inch macbook pro.. but for me, a Ukrainian living in a very poor nation, we mostly can't sadly. I have a 2015 MacBook Pro 15 inch dual graphics - the best built in my opinion and does everything I need it to. To move to something similar will cost a lot of money. sTILL, APPLE LIES AND TOLD ALL OF US THE MACHINES THAT USE PPC M1/MX PROCESSORS WOULD NOW BE CHEAPER FOR EVERYONE AS APPLE HAD TO PAY ROYALTIES TO INTEL - AGAIN, APPLE LIES. THIS IS WHY I HATE COOK AND HIS VISION FOR THE MAC. YOU CAN'T COMPARE YOUR REASONS TO MINE. I AM A ONE MAN USER OF THE MACHINE, WHILE YOU HAVE IT FOR WORK - BIG DIFFERENCE.

As to your reference me needing help - i DON'T THINK SO, since you did not understand what I meant as I did not since you did not state its for your job. So, we are both needing help here.
 
Shirasaki said:
It's not like everyone is obliged to go and buy those $6000 machines smh. It's not mandated by law.
Most people would just need a MacBook Air or much lower spec MacBook Pro without much issue, which would be half or 1/5 the cost of those $ 6000 machines.
I assume you know that.
Also, Apple stoping manufacturing those machines won't help solving food problems cause those infrastructures has nothing to do with food production boost.
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What would be close to 2015 15 inch MacBook Pro dual graphics ? The 6000 one which has a 16 inch screen ?
 
Macbookprodude said:
Key word: my whole team (Network engineers) - For your company, yes you can afford 6000 16 inch macbook pro.. but for me, a Ukrainian living in a very poor nation, we mostly can't sadly. I have a 2015 MacBook Pro 15 inch dual graphics - the best built in my opinion and does everything I need it to. To move to something similar will cost a lot of money. sTILL, APPLE LIES AND TOLD ALL OF US THE MACHINES THAT USE PPC M1/MX PROCESSORS WOULD NOW BE CHEAPER FOR EVERYONE AS APPLE HAD TO PAY ROYALTIES TO INTEL - AGAIN, APPLE LIES. THIS IS WHY I HATE COOK AND HIS VISION FOR THE MAC. YOU CAN'T COMPARE YOUR REASONS TO MINE. I AM A ONE MAN USER OF THE MACHINE, WHILE YOU HAVE IT FOR WORK - BIG DIFFERENCE.

As to your reference me needing help - i DON'T THINK SO, since you did not understand what I meant as I did not since you did not state its for your job. So, we are both needing help here.
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If it does everything you need it to, then what's the problem at this time?

Consider whether you really need to get angry about the introduction of models that go beyond the previous top end. Are you getting angry and picketing outside the Gucci store in Kyiv also? You seem to be upset that before, you could max something out and now you can't afford to.
 
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hahah.. No, I don't live in Kyiv. I am from West Ukraine. I guess I am ask because I have 15 inch 2015 MacBook Pro dual graphics. It does what I need, but would 6000 machine be close to same screen size ? Like, what is upgrade from this one I have ?
 
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Macbookprodude said:
What would be close to 2015 15 inch MacBook Pro dual graphics ? The 6000 one which has a 16 inch screen ?
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And what would be close to 2015 15 inch MacBook Pro dual graphics? A box that is not as portable and consumes hundreds of Watts or a machine that can be carried around somewhat, consume only 140W, despite costing roughly the same (or a bit less)?
I prefer the existing x86 "ecosystem" for its immense versatility but nobody can just look away what Apple has to offer on paper.
 
Macbookprodude said:
hahah.. No, I don't live in Kyiv. I am from West Ukraine. I guess I am ask because I have 15 inch 2015 MacBook Pro dual graphics. It does what I need, but would 6000 machine be close to same screen size ? Like, what is upgrade from this one I have ?
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An M1 macbook air would handily outperform your mac in both CPU and GPU.

The base 16" would be a significant upgrade over your machine. And $200 cheaper than it was when new. Or if you sprang for the 1TB SSD in your laptop... the $2699 model at a whole $500 less than yours retailed for.

Tim wasn't lying.
 
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RLTechs1 said:
I can remember back in the 8086 days expanding ram on Novell servers using a custom ISA card with 8 30 pin memory slots. Much like memory risers in servers today only they were ISA and then later PCI for a little while until they disappeared. I am wonder king how hard it would be to use for example a usb control chip ton interface non the computer end with a module holding ram as an expansion. ?
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It wouldn't be difficult, however it wouldn't be worth it as the bandwidth of USB is many, many times slower than DRAM. SSDs are faster than USB these days.

RAM hooked up via USB would be pointless.
 
Shirasaki said:
And what would be close to 2015 15 inch MacBook Pro dual graphics? A box that is not as portable and consumes hundreds of Watts or a machine that can be carried around somewhat, consume only 140W, despite costing roughly the same (or a bit less)?
I prefer the existing x86 "ecosystem" for its immense versatility but nobody can just look away what Apple has to offer on paper.
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So, the 6000 us dollar one is too much ?
 
Macbookprodude said:
I thought Apple going M1 would bring Mac down to reasonable prices where most can afford it since Intel is not with Apple anymore.
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Kek… that’s what apple showed to us with MacBook Air M1 but Pro machine blew this out of water. Not surprising much though.

MacBook May never be a significant considering factor on gaming.
 
Macbookprodude said:
Not worth it. in 3 WORDS: OVERPRICED NON-UPGRADABLE JUNK
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So I guess you do not have a cell phone (pretty much any brand).

Or a camera, or a TV, or a Fridge..

These are tools. They do a job. To get the most out of them, they (computer makers) have been moving in this general direction for decades. I remember this same outrage going from socket to surface mount (the CPU soldered to the board), but it was needed as the CPU connection was not good enough. The better sockets were more expensive.

As you integrate more onto the chip, it becomes less and less upgradeable. Adding the system memory allowed for more speed, but now you can't upgrade it. Adding the video card was a similar story.

You may like upgrading hardware to prolong it's useful life, but this is something that the overwhelming majority of users do not do, even in Windows world. By the Mid 2000's, less than 5% of computers were getting upgraded by the end user. So, like using Macs in the first place, you aren't in the mainstream. Apple isn't going to cater to that no matter how many capital letters you use to express your outrage.

You can hold out for an M1 Mac Pro, but I don't think you will buy yourself much.
 
v3rlon said:
So I guess you do not have a cell phone (pretty much any brand).

Or a camera, or a TV, or a Fridge..

These are tools. They do a job. To get the most out of them, they (computer makers) have been moving in this general direction for decades. I remember this same outrage going from socket to surface mount (the CPU soldered to the board), but it was needed as the CPU connection was not good enough. The better sockets were more expensive.

As you integrate more onto the chip, it becomes less and less upgradeable. Adding the system memory allowed for more speed, but now you can't upgrade it. Adding the video card was a similar story.

You may like upgrading hardware to prolong it's useful life, but this is something that the overwhelming majority of users do not do, even in Windows world. By the Mid 2000's, less than 5% of computers were getting upgraded by the end user. So, like using Macs in the first place, you aren't in the mainstream. Apple isn't going to cater to that no matter how many capital letters you use to express your outrage.

You can hold out for an M1 Mac Pro, but I don't think you will buy yourself much.
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Well, given I live in a poor nation, Ukraine is very poor and here most don't make more than 500 a month in Ukrainian Hryven. I make good money as a security guard for the Verkhovna Rada in Lviv - they job pays about 45,000 us DOLLARS. Ask any Ukrainian about M1 and they tell you too expensive they are.
 
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In short, you:

1. Open your MacBook Pro
2. Replace your RAM
3. Replace your SSD
4. Close your MacBook Pro

Done.
 
nicho said:
An M1 macbook air would handily outperform your mac in both CPU and GPU.

The base 16" would be a significant upgrade over your machine. And $200 cheaper than it was when new. Or if you sprang for the 1TB SSD in your laptop... the $2699 model at a whole $500 less than yours retailed for.

Tim wasn't lying.
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And Steve Jobs didn't ?
 
Carlson-online said:
Extremely misleading title. It's a bit like saying robbing a bank is possible, given you have an experienced crew, inside information and a pass from law enforcement. This is not something the average user will ever be able to do.

Technically Possible !== Possible
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It says possible, not practical. It seems you missed the point of the article, which is the confirmation that Apple did not embed the amount of ram in the hardware/firmware, thus preventing replacement with larger capacity chips. Likely they saw no need to embed due to the impracticality of user replacement. Of course techniques and hardware advance over time, and in the future, someone may create a simpler, and more practical way to replace those chips.
 
walnuts said:
I thought the SSD couldn't be replaced in the post-T2 Mac era due to the security lockout. So are they saying that with the switch from Intel to M1, that security feature is removed? I guess there could be made easier somehow with the M1 performing the T2's former functions.
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It’s more that the data is unreadable once the drive is removed as the key is in the cpu.
 
planteater said:
Well, that crew in China didn’t have a problem “finding” them.
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Possibly from a cannibalised Mac to "prove" this can be done.

Anything that can be soldered to a board can be replaced, it's just a matter of how economically practical it is.

Doing it within warranty will void your warranty. Doing it out of warranty - you're putting money into a machine that is worth a lot less and you'll perhaps get better bang for buck selling the device and getting a new machine (with a new warranty for those who care).
 
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