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I guess if you need an eGPU you wouldn’t start out with a MacBook Air, low end pro or the mini anyway. Assume the more high end arm models will support it
Maybe not. Apple seems to be doubling down on integrated graphics.
 
not a surprise ... this first goaround is for entry-level, mid/high end coming in 2021, let's see what that brings

I mean, we should def be forgiving about that...except, for a first go around, Apple's implementing it in three different product lines and called it the bestest of everything. I hope Apple will forgive everyone who wants to return them too
 
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I mainly use the eGPU (Gigabyte R580 box) to drive my LG 49" display from my 13" MacBook Pro, because the MPB cannot drive it at native resolution. If the M1 MBP can drive the display with no issues, then I don't need the eGPU. Not a gamer, but do lots of video conferencing and productivity apps.
 
That would be a mixed message marketing wise when they're acting like the new chip would make eGPU's obsolete.
It's weird they included Blackmagic's video editing platform in their presentation today considering. Puts into question what they're doing with FCPX which seems more geared for Vloggers and online short content creators and less pro.
 
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This feels like Beta release....

- No Windows Bootcamp support
- No egpu support
- Same form factor
- 720p webcam :eek:

Bit surprised they didn't do a new design for these??? maybe next year then.
The 720p webcam was really disappointing. I know it is the same form factor, but come on.
 
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Who writes the graphics drivers for MacOS? If the GPU vendors are responsible for even some of the code then it's not exactly surprising that neither Nvidia nor AMD are supporting eGPUs on ARM Macs.

I hope Apple themselves will provide options.
 
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And less appealing to professionals.
Depending on the profession. I do a lot of graphic design and frankly as long as I've got a decent amount of RAM, and SSD and a modern Mac, the stuff I use all runs great. Obviously hard-core video editors and such will need more, but even modest computers are pretty damn fast these days.
 
So what about software like Adobe, cinema4d, Maya? Will they have to rewrite it or does it just work? in emulator mode? Guess apple is just killing all nvidia support :(
 
Gamers or Game developers? There's a ton of Windows machines that serve the gaming market, so I don't see that as a huge driver for Apple. All iOS (and macOS) games will eventually run on M1-based Macs.

As for eGPU support, I'm confident that it's just a matter of time. What they've delivered today is exceptional and none of us should be complaining about what is not "yet" here, I say. Give it time.
I’m both a professional developer and a casual gamer as well as a Mac lover, but it feels like I cannot use a single machine for everything, which is... bummers.
 
DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT.

So now we lost the modular Mac, AGAIN.

Still, for the price of those Black Magic EGPUs I can build a decent gaming PC, if I was so inclined.

I wonder if the Intel Macs will go up in value, as they are the last of the 'flexible' Macs. We're entering the era of Mac vs PC again, for better or worse.

No wonder they brought back 'PC Dude'.
 
Wasn't the Mac already infinitely unappealing to gamers?

Also, I always viewed eGPUs as a trap. Apple was getting everyone excited about them, but there are too many gotchas for me to bother with them.
Yep, it became more so now.
 
Who writes the graphics drivers for MacOS? If the GPU vendors are responsible for even some of the code then it's not exactly surprising that neither Nvidia nor AMD are supporting eGPUs on ARM Macs.

I hope Apple themselves will provide options.
Apple does now, or at least they release them. Nvidia also provides third-party drivers for niche use cases like my Mac Pro, which used to have a GTX 650ti until I realized the drivers were too trash for it to be worth.
 
DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT.

So now we lost the modular Mac, AGAIN.

Still, for the price of those Black Magic EGPUs I can build a decent gaming PC, if I was so inclined.

I wonder if the Intel Macs will go up in value, as they are the last of the 'flexible' Macs. We're entering the era of Mac vs PC again, for better or worse.

No wonder they brought out 'PC Dude' again.
They weren't very flexible anyway. You could basically only use an AMD RX 5xx GPU if you wanted full macOS support. So, good enough but nowhere near cutting edge. That's what my Mac has internally.
 
Well, given that the M1 macs can run iOS apps (and games) out of the box, that's certainly a huge plus. Lots of great games on iOS, even for the non-casual gamer.
Yes, thanks I didn't consider that as an option. But you certainly don't need eGPU for playing those as the included GPU is extremely powerful for games built on Metal.
 
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