HobeSoundDarryl
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In America, if these were rumored to have a Kilo inside, they would be sold out until... perhaps forever. ?
...with most buyers doing an iFixit on nearly all of them. ?
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M1 Ultra Mac Studio is 2 Pounds Heavier Than M1 Max Version Due to Thermal Differences
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...with most buyers doing an iFixit on nearly all of them. ?
Maybe the reason there is no iMac Pro or 27” iMac is because the thermals, and subsequent size of case and fans/cooling system just wont work in display case for the Ultra.
Just speculation, of course. Maybe Apple could go backwards to the bubble back iMac design from years ago, but maybe that’s a bridge too far, even for the new, smarter Apple which is more focused on user needs, not product shots and designer fetishes.
I know Bloomberg says the iMac Pro is still coming, and I hope it is. But maybe the 27” iMac form factor is really, truly gone.
Just speculation, of course. Maybe Apple could go backwards to the bubble back iMac design from years ago, but maybe that’s a bridge too far, even for the new, smarter Apple which is more focused on user needs, not product shots and designer fetishes.
I know Bloomberg says the iMac Pro is still coming, and I hope it is. But maybe the 27” iMac form factor is really, truly gone.
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Is anyone else getting trash can Mac Pro vibes from the studio's
A 375W power supply for a computer with more power than a 12900K/5950X + RTX 3090/6900XT. Wow. That's just Insane... Insanely Great!
Neither the Max nor the ULTRA would come even close to the Xeon used in the iMacPro so they would have need just a little extra depth compared to the 24" (maybe with those cooling vents found on the XDR).
It seems quite clear that Apple has come to the conclusion that an all_in_one is not the right way to do a "Pro" desktop in 2022 and that the iMac should return to it's pure consumer roots, which it clearly was (and was marketed as) from the G3 up to early Intel-
If the M1 Max can fit inside a 14" MacBook Pro then they can make it work inside an iMac. Even an M1 Ultra could theoretically work if they made the chassis thicker; if Apple can cram an i9 inside of an iMac they can fit an Ultra in there. That being said it's entirely possible that when Apple refreshes the iMac with the M2 chip that they'll release a 27" model but keep the thin chassis and make it entirely a consumer device with M2 chips across the board.
Yeah, I'd be concerned with heat build-up on the side that faces up. Cool idea though, for space saving.
Cannot wait to see this things guts! Come on iFixit, tell me how unrepairable it is!
I'm interested to see how much one can do - that large case implies there should be access to most of the components.
Yes, you'll likely need to swap the entire mainboard out for SoC/RAM/SSD/Port failures, but one should be able to get to the fans and heatsinks and power supply.
I remember dragging a Compaq Portable II around back in the late 80s, that thing was almost 25 lbs and HUGE ... so carrying a Studio around and a (small) monitor - no problem LOL
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Compaq Portable II - Wikipedia
Unless you're in the UK, then we are back to Lbs. ????????.......Too small to be an St. though.
It also means there's no way M1 Ultra is making way into the Macbook Pro product line.
I remember dragging a Compaq Portable II around back in the late 80s, that thing was almost 25 lbs and HUGE ... so carrying a Studio around and a (small) monitor - no problem LOL
Compaq Portable II - Wikipedia
I had the original model and did indeed carry it over to friend's houses.
And yeah, it gave real meaning to the term "luggable".
I think the main reason is that most people doing this sort of work don't want an all-in-one, but I suspect thermals play a role as well. The pros of the iMac are vastly outweighed by the cons for performance and professional use.
What are the main pros of the iMac?
1. Easy to setup.
2. Fewer connectors.
3. Looks really nice.
None of these matter to someone using their computer professionally for anything remotely technical. Personally, the combo I have wanted since I've stopped using a laptop as my primary machine is something like this Studio setup.
People who need a lot of power tend to use more than one monitor as well and, in my experiences, quality monitors tend to outlive the computers they're attached to.
The iMac was originally a consumer/non-tech product. It seems to be returning it those roots, which is nice. Squeezing it into the "Pro" world was always a mismatch. (I have a buddy in the Pro camp who is super salty about this, but he is unusually concerned about the number of cables coming from his desk, lol. He really wants a bigger iMac with the cool power + ethernet cable.)
If Apple finally kills off the awkward 13" MBP (which I suspect is coming when the M2 is released), their Mac line will be really clear for the first time in a long time. (I personally hope they drop the "Air" moniker and just call the new laptops "MacBooks." A 12" and 14" would really round things out nicely.)
Except thermal dissipation was a big problem for the “trash can” Mac Pro. It shouldn’t be an issue with the Mac Studio.
Remember what he said about Mac Pro? "Another day"
So lets wait for WWDC. The black kb/mouse are back, but the Mac Studio is only available in silver.
You do remember the origins of black kb/mouse right?
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
I had the original model and did indeed carry it over to friend's houses.
And yeah, it gave real meaning to the term "luggable".
"Muscles! Wow! Do you work out?"
"No I carry this 'portable computer' around" ?
The best computer Apples made in years IMO. Along with the new MacBook Pro’s.
Darth Tulhu
macrumors 68020
My 17" MacBook Pro weighed 6.6 pounds, right in between these two, and I loved and carried that thing around the world with me.
That weight is right between these two. Eight pounds is NOTHING.
That weight is right between these two. Eight pounds is NOTHING.
Yes, the iMac Pro was very much a stopgap. The Apple Studio Display plus the Mac Studio collectively replace the iMac Pro. The fact that Apple still sells an Intel Mac Mini leads me to believe they will release a Mac Mini with the Mx Pro chip (to replace the now-discontinued 27” iMac), but you are right that the consumer/pro delineation is a bit clearer now.
There’s a big gap between the $999 MacBook Air an $1,999 14” MacBook Pro, but that could be filled with a higher end MacBook/Air vs. a base “Pro” model. We’ll see. It seems as though the rumors of an otherwise unmodified 13” Pro with the M2 were just to throw off the rumor sites or identify leakers.
Are you going to have to really reach for the Mac Studio power button when wall mounted? Also some have commented about putting it under a tabletop to hide another cord, where the highest preponderance of dust is present. Its such a insignificant design, is very interesting how people are bothered by its look/size.
Darth Tulhu
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It is exactly that.
Except Apple wasn't stupid this time and tried to replace the Mac Pro in it's lineup with it (although it could replace it for some users).
I'm LOVING post-Jony Ive Apple.