I plan on upgrading to a new laptop. Most likely a 13" MBP. But can't decide to go with Intel or the M1 version. I am leaning for the M1 version, but it only has 8GB of RAM while the Intel version includes 16GB. Don't know why apple didn't just give the M1 also 16GB of RAM. I wlll be using this laptop for Graphic Design and Video Editing.
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M1 vs Intel MacBooks
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Go for the M1 - you can configure it with 16GB of RAM.
If you can, wait until fall when Apple, very likely, will show new MacBook Pro models.
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Intel is a superior work machine, besides a few benchmarks where Apple is good in video encoding it gets wrecked in a lot of uses and functions outside that.
boot camp is priceless.
Besides Apple forcing you to upgrade by pushing you, it’s a inferior product atm.
Wait a couple years.
boot camp is priceless.
Besides Apple forcing you to upgrade by pushing you, it’s a inferior product atm.
Wait a couple years.
Go M1. Intel is a lost cause now within the Apple family, they will get dropped very soon.
if you can wait, wait. if you can't get the M1.
you can always resell the M1 at some minor loss.
If you get the M1, make sure all your apps work through Rosetta or native,
and figure that out within the first 14 days, so if you really need to return for Intel, you have that option.
you can always resell the M1 at some minor loss.
If you get the M1, make sure all your apps work through Rosetta or native,
and figure that out within the first 14 days, so if you really need to return for Intel, you have that option.
Go for the M1, it's the future for Apple laptops. If you learn that 8GB is not enough, then upgrade at a later date when the new models get released. You may find that is its plenty and keep it.
You spelled “inferior“ wrong.
Even my M1 MBA (no fans, no noise) outperforms the 16” i7 MBP of my wife in absolutely every single job, while her MBP sounds like a starting F16 squadron and my MBA is completely silent.
And before you ask: no, we’re not playing benchmarks.
The only thing I kinda miss is Bootcamp.
But they did? You you just have to pay for the upgrade. Just the exact same, as the Intel Macbook Pro that was replaced. It comes with 256gb/8gb configuration for a simliar Price, the 2-Port model with 8th Gen Intel chip.
The 10th Gen 4-Port model is NOT replaced (it will be replaced by 14") indeed comes with 512/16gb in Base, but it also does cost way more.
Configure 512gb SSD and 16gb Ram into M1 Macbook Pro, and you'll still be slightly cheaper.
Do that with the M1 Macbook Air, and you will be alot cheaper - and still faster.
It's totally a person by person basis of what you use it for, and how you feel about when you want to jump into the transition. Right now the m1 mini is a great value if it works for what you need.
It’s fact
It’s not a better product, usbc blows emulation is not superior you cannot game on the Mac really anymore, nor install windows to play unplayable games.
the m1 struggles with usbc hubs and was getting killed by them ( amazing product) struggles with tons and tons of issues from external monitors to ssds killing themselves rapidly.
it’s a generation 1 product, and beyond battery life and video editing, it’s not superior to intel.
I own both, and use them professionally.
Intel is a more professional tier tons of people in the office can’t even use m1s because of external monitor limitations.
but yes it’s a superior product, no. It isn’t.
It can’t even do a ton of stuff intels can, basics in computers for years
There hasn’t been any evidence of a ssd failing more than an intel Mac. There have been some cases of excessive writes for a small number of people but even then the ssd should last more than the intended lifetime of the Mac. Also the latest os Has fixed that issue.
Lots of fear mongering going on.
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Wow! I am confused. I bought a base i3 2020 MBA last spring. Then, the M1 2020 MBA came out late in the year, and the tech reviews were stellar. People on MR sang its praise. Folks were recommending that Intel MBA owners immediately sell and get an M1 MacBook before the resell market fell out. I started thinking I made a big mistake buying the i3 MBA.
Now, six months later, I am seeing all of this criticism on this thread about the M1 MacBooks. What gives? Is this stuff for real, or is this more MR echo chamber of hyperbole? Like I said, it's kind of confusing.
BTW - I recently bought a new 2020 M1 MBA for my daughter to take to grad school. It's past the 30 day return period, so that's that.
Now, six months later, I am seeing all of this criticism on this thread about the M1 MacBooks. What gives? Is this stuff for real, or is this more MR echo chamber of hyperbole? Like I said, it's kind of confusing.
BTW - I recently bought a new 2020 M1 MBA for my daughter to take to grad school. It's past the 30 day return period, so that's that.
People need to look forward. And forward for Apple is with the M1 chip. It is the future. Intel is the past. I think If I wanted to go with an Intel based machine, I would look to HP or Dell -- perhaps Razor.
You know, every forum has people that give absolutely boneheaded advice like this. FYI, the 2014-2015 Macbook Pros still sell extremely well despite being ancient in PC years. Because they are good machines. Not everyone needs latest and greatest, sometimes older technology is better built that the new one for many reasons. Hence arguments on both sides. Screaming "let's buy something simply because Apple says so" is just not smart but is exactly what they want you to do.
Do you need/want to run:
- Games that aren't likely going to be updated with Universal Binary 2 versions
- Other apps that won't perform adequately in Rosetta 2
- x86-64 versions of Windows and/or Linux via Boot Camp
- x86-64 virtual machines (and x86-64 versions of macOS, Windows, and/or Linux therein)
?
If so, go with the 10th Generation Intel model.
If not, go with the M1 model.
You can configure an M1 13" MacBook Pro with up to 16GB of RAM (and I recommend doing so); they otherwise come standard with 8GB.
You can configure a 10th Generation Intel 13" MacBook Pro with up to 32GB of RAM (and, given that you can't upgrade it later, you may want to at least consider doing so); they otherwise come standard with 8GB. Go with the 2.3GHz i7 if you plan on doing less casual workflows; though the 2.0GHz Core i5 should be sufficient as there's not much different between them.
Be sure to buy at least one storage size larger than you think you'll need as you can't upgrade it after the fact.
And there's your June 2021 13" MacBook Pro buyers guide.
The main question is hidden in the original post:
If you do occasional video editing at web resolutions (up to 1080) in FCPX or Premiere, then the M1 is sufficient with 16GB of memory.
If you do heavy video editing (10+ tracks) and/or 4K or higher resolutions and/or graphics editing at the same time (After Effects, Photoshop etc open at the same time with serious switching between them), then 16GB will most likely not cut it. Get a current Intel MBP with 32GB RAM, or wait until the new machines with Apple silicon are announced. They should go up to at least 32GB of RAM. Expected date: unknown, but September looks likely.
What sort of video editing? And do you do it together with your graphic design?
If you do occasional video editing at web resolutions (up to 1080) in FCPX or Premiere, then the M1 is sufficient with 16GB of memory.
If you do heavy video editing (10+ tracks) and/or 4K or higher resolutions and/or graphics editing at the same time (After Effects, Photoshop etc open at the same time with serious switching between them), then 16GB will most likely not cut it. Get a current Intel MBP with 32GB RAM, or wait until the new machines with Apple silicon are announced. They should go up to at least 32GB of RAM. Expected date: unknown, but September looks likely.
I'll append to this that the first of any newly redesigned Apple product is a bit of a reliability gamble, and that especially holds true for iPhones and MacBook Pros in particular. The hinge mis-alignment on the M1 iMacs is also a pretty good example of this phenomenon. So, given that, if you're leaning more towards the Apple Silicon end of things (rather than the Intel), I'd either buy the M1 13" MacBook Pro or wait until this rumored redesign has been around for one or two release cycles before buying.
Yeah. I thought Apple launched about the perfect laptop with the 16" so I got one refurb as soon as it became available. Then went through support hell as it was one of those that did nothing but crash. I ended up getting a brand new one, so that saved me 15% on the purchase of a new one. Not sure I'd like to go through it again, though. It was a stressful period at work and not having a reliable laptop + having to log my every move to build a convincing case Apple support couldn't talk themselves around wasn't something I needed on top of it.
This the very definition of shortsightedness. I own a 2014 device. It works fine. Would I buy one today? Of course not. A 2014-15 machine is not anywhere near as good as an M1 based device -- nor will it be as long lasting. Is an Intel based 2014 machine sufficient for certain use cases today -- of course. That does not make it objectively as good though. If you want to save a few bucks, go ahead and buy the cheaper machine. But it is unwise to advise people to do so all things being equal.