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Anyone who's reviewed external SSDs will know that they are for, the most part, 'thermally challenged'.
That's why I stuck one of these on each side of my OWC Envoy express...

 
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I'm typing this comment on a 2012 non-retina 15-inch MacBook Pro. I use it for everything, from web browsing to full-HD video editing in Premiere Pro CS6, and even light 3d animation in Blender.
I’d like to see someone do that with a 10 year old PC
 
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So essentially only worth the $200 spike in price over a 2 year old model if your goal is to do heavy-duty video editing.
Otherwise, Apple pricing itself out of what was once it's most affordable real laptop, capable of doing what people wanted it for.
 
That 24 GB is weird, wonder was there a physical limitation that made it an odd 28 GB memory or something like that, that they decided not to make it that way.

It is an odd configuration for a PC (though one does see it with a 16GB+8GB module), but it is not so odd for a smartphone/tablet and the M SoC use that type of memory.

I believe the main reason they did it was to help relieve the memory pressures some folks with 16GB on the M1 were feeling without infringing on the 32GB the M1 Pro offers (and M2 Pro will offer).
 
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No way, it's not worth an upgrade. Only 20% faster with the M2. Not worth it at all.

M2 Chip should have been called M1S. Save the money and get yourself a M2 MacBook Air.
Well if you put it in comparison with the last decade of Intel Core i CPUs, 20% is actually a very decent gen over gen upgrade. I don’t think it is worth replacing your outgoing model only for a slight performance bump… it never was.
 
Here's a better idea, get a base model M1 Pro 14". They go on sale for $1799 all the time. For the M2 13" Pro 16 Gig you're at $1699 and you don't get the full keyboard, more GPU cores, or the Mini-LED Display.
 
I don’t know why people are so shocked it’s the same design.

Apple are still selling the same designed iPad since 2013 and iPhone SE since 2014 and Apple Watch 3 since 2017. They milk the hell out of their designs.
No, they keep those around to compete with the low end Android products and they're still better than that lot of junk.
 
This thing of the recycling is such a scammy PR stunt.

Just to make the customer feel better about the endless consumption.


But yes more recycling this time around, they recycled the 2016 design for another year.
 
So essentially only worth the $200 spike in price over a 2 year old model if your goal is to do heavy-duty video editing.
Otherwise, Apple pricing itself out of what was once it's most affordable real laptop, capable of doing what people wanted it for.
At least 10% of that increase is just inflation. So I'd look at it more like $100 for inflation and $100 for improved performance. Though the reality is that it might all be driven by inflation. Not just the inflation so far, but inflation that Apple is anticipating as it keeps its price level over the next year or so. So you could say the performance upgrade is basically "free".

Also, not really much in the market that beats either machine overall.
 
For most people the upgrade is not worth it but for some use cases it will be.
This offering to me seems to be to get those who are still on Intel machines to upgrade and who did not want to spend the Money on M1 Max. This includes those who like the Touch Bar also. Believe it or not, there are users who liked the Touch Bar and is why Apple still offers it, but Apple knows the users by their data...so catered that segment with this new system.

I am in the category who liked the Touch Bar, but needed the power of M1 Max for video editing (spent my funds on 16" MacBook Pro) so would not even consider this at this time. This M2 Mac book Pro is not for us who have M1 Pro or Max.

"if" I did not have the funds at the time for the M1 MAX MacBook Pro, this would be a tempting option if you cannot wait for fall when the next M2 MacBook Pro's will probably come out.

The 16" MacBook Pro M1 MAX is the BEST computer I have ever had. I have had many...but...the next M2 MacBook Pro is going to be "out-of-this-world" as far as power and its offerings. Great time for Apple hardware.
 
No way, it's not worth an upgrade. Only 20% faster with the M2. Not worth it at all.

M2 Chip should have been called M1S. Save the money and get yourself a M2 MacBook Air.
Yes..The M2 Chip was probably called "M2" to get people to buy (or upgrade). Marketing knows what to do for Apple Fans to consider spending..

If looking for power, better to wait (if possible) for the Fall with the next main MacBook Pro offerings, they will be incredible with a "real" M2 chip. 3 or 4 months away if people can wait. Apple fans are known to "spend', so throw a "M2" tag on the naming and watch the $ fly.

If users need (or want) something now like it (unless they like the Touch Bar - I do), then MacBook Air is the better selection for these buyers.
 
I went to config one up, and the bugger quit at 24GB of ram.
Thinking about it, I'll have to see where M2 falls in power between M1 & M1ProMaxUltraStudioMega

Since these Mx Macs are not able to fully replace Intel Macs, they're a supplemental machine to handle non-windows & non-32bit duties. ...which in that respect makes them little more than a less convenient, slightly more powerful iPad. Which means the power increase has to be pretty substantial to justify their purchase.
 
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For only a 20 percent bump and speed... Why upgrade? If you already have an M1 device, save your money.
Your M1 will last you 10 years+. Don't believe the Apple marketing crap.
Only if you bought it with 16GB of RAM.

My 2015 MBP runs circles around my coworker's and the only difference is mine has 16 GB and hers has 8GB.
8GB was not enough for 2015 and it's certainly not enough in 2022.

Anybody trying to use their MBA or MBP in 2032 with only 8GB of RAM will likely be suffering a bit.
 
This offering to me seems to be to get those who are still on Intel machines to upgrade and who did not want to spend the Money on M1 Max. This includes those who like the Touch Bar also. Believe it or not, there are users who liked the Touch Bar and is why Apple still offers it, but Apple knows the users by their data...so catered that segment with this new system.

I am in the category who liked the Touch Bar, but needed the power of M1 Max for video editing (spent my funds on 16" MacBook Pro) so would not even consider this at this time. This M2 Mac book Pro is not for us who have M1 Pro or Max.
Apple has form on this; it kept the 2012 MBPro on the books til 2016, because there were people who wanted the ports/optical drive.
 
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I keep forgetting what a slouch the m 1 was 🤦‍♀️

Apple have a real problem now as the m1 set the bar so high , topping it is going to take quite some doing

Maybe the new Mac Pro really will blow us away ? Hope so :cool::D
 
It is so nice to be back to regular processor updates, like during the early 2000s before Intel jumped the shark.

Buy the machine when you need it and don't feel like you have to hold out with a computer at death's door because the "newest" processor on the "latest" machine is still using vacuum tubes.
 
I'll be purchasing my first Macbook. I'm now on the fence if I should jump the gun now for a second hand Macbook Pro 14 with the M1 or wait for M2. Or wait for the M2 to come out and get M1 for a bit cheaper. Is the M2 worth waiting for in your opinion? I do pretty CPU demanding music projects (my current not so powerful PC chokes up easily) and some photo and video editing.
 
If you own any Intel 13” MBP 2020, don’t need Intel compatibility and don’t own an M1, you should buy either the M2 MacBook Pro or the M2 Air when it’s released. It’s a harder call for those with a 15” or 16” MBP that is happy with its speed and screen size.

That's where I am, typing on a 16" i9 MBP with 32 GB memory and AMD Pro 5500M GPU. I do like this MBP a lot but got a bit annoyed as I bought the most basic Air M1 for my wife, had to use it for two weeks (MBP had to go in for repair) and never ran into any performance issues. Using that M1 did go very well, even with more demanding tasks like running Affinity and PyCharm. I even started wondering if I really do need that 16" screen. Still, I decided to skip the M1 even though I don't need the Intel compatibility. But here we are, at the M2. Wait for M3? Don't know yet. Any others who've been here?
 
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At least 10% of that increase is just inflation. So I'd look at it more like $100 for inflation and $100 for improved performance. Though the reality is that it might all be driven by inflation. Not just the inflation so far, but inflation that Apple is anticipating as it keeps its price level over the next year or so. So you could say the performance upgrade is basically "free"...
'Anticipated inflation' is an interesting rationale for hiking prices.

"Hi, this is your local grocery store. We're just letting you know that while we still have a numbers of items that cost us the same to buy and put out on the shelves, we're going to crank their prices in anticipation of the possibility of price rises we have yet to see. Please don't see this as profit-making on our part".

And doubtless the Chinese workers will fully realize the benefits of a 20% price increase in their own wallets for assembling the M2.

'Free' certainly has nothing to do with price increases - that oxymoron even more so when Apple is involved.
 
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