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Air is for the M1 chips, middle ground.
But as I did last week, ipad pro m1 is cheaper than Air M1. Yea Air makes no sense. But Pro M1 if you are looking for that middle tablet.
Sure, but my argument is no one is going to be looking for that middle ground, especially with the improvements to the base iPad.
 
People keep missing this for some reason. That and 6E isn't inherently faster than 6 (that's one I keep seeing a lot of misinformation about). 6E just makes it much easier to use 160MHz channels since the 6GHz band is so much larger than the 5GHz band (which you can fit only 2 or 3 160MHz channels, dependent on your region, and which is also sullied by DFS)
Agree! But is the new WiFi 6E iPad compatible with 160Mhz channels? Is that part of 6E baseline spec? Because current Apple WiFi 6 devices only seem to support 80Mhz channels.
 
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the ipad wifi 6e is fake , its been mentioned on twitter

apple didnt mention the new 6ghz band in the spec sheet
 
Agree! But is the new WiFi 6E iPad compatible with 160Mhz channels? Is that part of 6E baseline spec? Because current Apple WiFi 6 devices only seem to support 80Mhz channels.

Great question, actually. I don’t know if it’s optional like it apparently is on the original specification. But it would seem to defeat a large part of the purpose to the new spectrum available in 6E, I would think.
 
Yeah, I don’t think you should ever trust twitter as a source of information… Here’s Apple’s press release. Wi-Fi 6E is clearly listed as one of the main selling points, or a lack thereof…
they can list how much they want

in the spec sheet they didnt mention 6ghz

wifi 6e is wifi 6 extended and it got 6ghz third band which make any wifi 6e device as triband

on the spec sheet they said dual band 2.4 and 5ghz and they didnt mention the 6ghz
 
I absolutely love this comment. I hate DFS with a passion, and am glad 6 GHz can enable 160 GHz channels (and eventually 320 MHz when Wifi 7 drops) with no need to worry about radar detection interruptions. 5 GHz does have slightly better propagation characteristics than 6 GHz, but I prefer a stable wifi channel that never has to compete with radar...

Just remember, super wide channels are counterproductive in very dense environments where there will be lots of interference from neighbors running on the same channels...

Agree! But is the new WiFi 6E iPad compatible with 160Mhz channels? Is that part of 6E baseline spec? Because current Apple WiFi 6 devices only seem to support 80Mhz channels.

WiFi 6E and the 6Ghz band contains much more spectrum which allows for more 80 and 160 Mhz channels. 160 Mhz is technically supported but not a good idea on WiFi 6 (unless you're running WiFi in the middle of nowhere and can't detect any neighboring WiFi networks.

Very worrisome, WiFi6E without 6GHz is just WiFi6.

They do stipulate WiFi6E is not available in China and Japan (which presumably have not allocated any of the 6GHz spectrum unlike the US or Europe), so I am leaning towards a typo.

the ipad wifi 6e is fake , its been mentioned on twitter

apple didnt mention the new 6ghz band in the spec sheet

they can list how much they want

in the spec sheet they didnt mention 6ghz

wifi 6e is wifi 6 extended and it got 6ghz third band which make any wifi 6e device as triband

on the spec sheet they said dual band 2.4 and 5ghz and they didnt mention the 6ghz

I agree that the spec sheet is confusing when it comes to 6E and 6Ghz support, but I think most likely it's supported. Here's what the spec sheet says:
Wi‑Fi 6E (802.11ax) with 2x2 MIMO, simultaneous dual band (2.4GHz and 5GHz)

The way to reconcile 6E support with this statement is to consider these as two separate statements separate by a comma.
1. WiFi 6E with 2x2 MIMO (this implies 6 Ghz support because 6E requires 6Ghz).
2. The device can simultaneously support 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz. This implies that 6Ghz may still be supported, but not simultaneously with 2.4/5Ghz.

I'm guessing tech reporters will clarify this with Apple over the next day or two.

Yes, it's confusing and they should have made this clearer.
 
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Just remember, super wide channels are counterproductive in very dense environments where there will be lots of interference from neighbors running on the same channels...



WiFi 6E and the 6Ghz band contains much more spectrum which allows for more 80 and 160 Mhz channels. 160 Mhz is technically supported but not a good idea on WiFi 6 (unless you're running WiFi in the middle of nowhere and can't detect any neighboring WiFi networks.







I agree that the spec sheet is confusing when it comes to 6E and 6Ghz support, but I think most likely it's supported. Here's what the spec sheet says:
Wi‑Fi 6E (802.11ax) with 2x2 MIMO, simultaneous dual band (2.4GHz and 5GHz)

The way to reconcile 6E support with this statement is to consider these as two separate statements separate by a comma.
1. WiFi 6E with 2x2 MIMO (this implies 6 Ghz support because 6E requires 6Ghz).
2. The device can simultaneously support 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz. This implies that 6Ghz may still be supported, but not simultaneously with 2.4/5Ghz.

I'm guessing tech reporters will clarify this with Apple over the next day or two.

Yes, it's confusing and they should have made this clearer.
every major tech companies will type wifi 6e 802.11ax 2.4 , 5 and 6ghz

why apple typing it weird way like that , it doesnt make any sense

I ordered iphone 14 pro max two weeeks ago

i canceled the order because i wanna upgrade my router to wifi 6e and I will hold till iphone 15 as this confirmed for us that the iphone 15 will add the wifi 6e

they should have added wifi 6e to apple tv 4k 2022 but they didnt bother too
 
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Good to see WiFi 6E support. Now Apple should support 6E on other devices too.
They confirmed wifi 6e 6ghz band
 
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As others have pointed out, something is wrong here. 6E must include support for 6Ghz band. Wifi alliance states this in their marketing requirements. 802.11ax is 6 AND 6E with the only difference being 6E has 6Ghz band support and thus supports higher throughput at a cost of reduced range.

No mention of 6Ghz band support in Apple’s tech specs…so why are they advertising as 6E?

Also Apple support are notoriously unreliable and give false info all the time, so I wouldn’t go by that, lol…I had an Apple support rep swear up and down to me the other day that I should be able to keep satellite mode on while navigating when using Apple Maps (like you can with Google maps). You absolutely can not 😫

EDIT: There’s a comment above that mentions simultaneous band support, that actually sounds plausible. Apple should work with tech sites to ensure proper messaging.
 
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Sure, but my argument is no one is going to be looking for that middle ground, especially with the improvements to the base iPad.
I wouldn't want to buy anything today without M1, I suspect as new features come out... it could be the baseline requirement for some apps and features as the years roll on.
 
I wouldn't want to buy anything today without M1, I suspect as new features come out... it could be the baseline requirement for some apps and features as the years roll on.
But then, it seems an 11" iPad Pro is the significantly better value right? Unless you buy a base Air? 256GB(64GB is worthless) for both runs $749 vs $899(2022) and you can find 2021 iPad Pros for $850, and probably even less if you wait just a bit.

I just don't see the benefit in an Air unless you want the cheapest possible M series chip, and I'm not sure it's worth it.
 
But then, it seems an 11" iPad Pro is the significantly better value right? Unless you buy a base Air? 256GB(64GB is worthless) for both runs $749 vs $899(2022) and you can find 2021 iPad Pros for $850, and probably even less if you wait just a bit.

I just don't see the benefit in an Air unless you want the cheapest possible M series chip, and I'm not sure it's worth it.
The 2021 M1 Pro definitely, they went down $200 last week, I thought, for good, due to imminent new release. I got my 256gb for 699. Cheaper than an Air.
It seems they went back up in price, don't understand why.
 
The 2021 M1 Pro definitely, they went down $200 last week, I thought, for good, due to imminent new release. I got my 256gb for 699. Cheaper than an Air.
It seems they went back up in price, don't understand why.
They’ll go back down around Black Friday is my guess
 
I’m here to say that I just received my new iPad Pro just this new morning. Finished setting it up & for the big question of the day “NO it has NO 6ghz band”


I’m stunned, truly I am, I don’t know what to say, where would I begin? So your new Wi-Fi 6E device does not have the 6ghz band that you know 6E is supposed to run on? It’s beyond obscene that Apple deceived us this way. Have to believe that they knew what they were doing but the fact of the matter is that they lied. Plain & simple.

For any hero here who is going to jump in & tell me that I’m wrong that 6E does not entail being compatible with the 6ghz band, I can direct you to at least a half a dozen websites that say it is in very clear terms so let’s not be combative for its own sake. I’m disheartened like you wouldn’t believe, can’t comprehend that in good faith they pulled a move such as this. Don’t know if I’m the first here to confirm this but since I have it in my hands & I can tell you with surety that this is NOT 6E, well I’m doing so.

For those who are still going to argue, then why don’t you PROVE what makes this device 6E, as in HOW? I’d really love to know.
 

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your new Wi-Fi 6E device does not have the 6ghz band that you know 6E is supposed to run on? It’s beyond obscene that Apple deceived us this way
Sorry, you’re wrong. It does support 6GHz as outlined in the support article. There are even users here on these forums who have connected theirs to the 6GHz band.

 
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Sorry, you’re wrong. It does support 6GHz as outlined in the support article. There are even users here on these forums who have connected theirs to the 6GHz band.

Ok, I’ll bite. Would you mind telling me how?
 
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What's your router? Have you tried doing a software update, or maybe just rebooting it? Lots of folks in the below thread are reporting 6Ghz support, but some have had issues at first though eventually they got it working:

Thank you for the offer Ener, but I had to do a lot of fooling around & eventually found something of a solution. With me I had to make sure all my network names AND passwords were exactly the same throughout & then I got an option for “WiFi 6E Mode Automatic” on my iPad. Or something like that. Thanks anyway.
 
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Ok, I’ll bite. Would you mind telling me how?
I don’t know what else I can say. Did you not read my response or look at the attached article? The M2 iPad does support the 6 GHz band, and multiple users have successfully connected it to 6 GHz wifi networks. Case closed. I honestly have no idea what you are ranting and raving about.
 
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