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M2 MacBook Air vs M1 Pro MacBook Pro 14”


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MBP 14" is par with my 77" LG OLED.
This is the only thing I think about with my M2 Air. Am I missing out on a beautiful display.

I absolutely love my LG OLED tv. It's probably one of the best things I've ever bought, and I got it almost 2 years ago.

Separately though, I'm using my Air on my lap infant of the sofa a lot already. I can't imagine balancing the 14" Pro on one thigh, like I am right now 😂
 
Absolutely delighted with the MacBook Pro 14 inch. Running a few games on max settings see the fans kick in pretty quickly and the base of the machine get warm so I think it was the right decision - the M2 Air would be throttling back in just a few minutes.
 
Yeah...watching a movie, the black bars are really not black. Can see the notch, easily.

Does anyone here not have an LG OLED tv and an M2 MBA? I'm not totally convinced that the display is that great on this M2.
 
Yeah...watching a movie, the black bars are really not black. Can see the notch, easily.

Does anyone here not have an LG OLED tv and an M2 MBA? I'm not totally convinced that the display is that great on this M2.
You can’t compare to a tv! 😂
So you mean compared to MBP?
 
MBP 14" Battery is going to crap out like the Intel MBPs that I've and others own....lasting 3-4 hours.

You will always have to plug it in unless you need it for only 2-3 hours. MBA is a killer machine and has a beautiful design. The best designed laptop and build for portability, productivity and writing/coding. It's the only Apple laptop that has great battery life AFTER owning it for years. MBP m1 or m2 will crap out like Intel.

MBA is the best for the average consumer or non-power users. I'm disappointed they upped the price to where it's nearing MBP 14" territory. If it was priced normally like the M1 MBA (MBA M1, 512/16 for ~1300), it would be an almost no-brainer for the average consumer. Now you gotta wait for a sale or buy the m1 MBA (which seems like a good choice atm until the next big improvement comes along..i.e. a better screen on the MBA or faster CPU).

But now the M2 MBA 512/16 is near $1600 after taxes excluding the $150 Back to college GC which IS NOT cash to me. That $1600 is near the price of a new MBP 14" from Bestbuy last sale ($1700) or the current Apple sale. MBA m2 should be priced around $1300 for a 512/16 config...
 
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I ordered the MBP shortly after the M2 Air came out. I'm happy with my decision.

Yeah, the Air is a solid machine and is a little smaller and lighter than the Pro. Battery should also be a bit better. Screen quality on the Pro is hard to beat, though, and I'm planning on keeping my machine for at *least* 5 years after this, ideally closer to like 8-10 years. The MBP weighs like 3.5 lbs which is the same as the rBMP I've been using for years.

I think it comes down to whether you care more about a great screen or more about a little less weight. The weight doesn't bother me. I know I'll enjoy the screen. That makes the MBP an easy choice. I know I'd be happy with a maxed out air, too, but the MBP is the right choice for me. All the extra ports and better power for longer periods of time also gives me more comfort and future proofing.
Battery on the m1/m2 Airs will be ALLOT better. Easily lasting a day.
 
MBP 14" Battery is going to crap out like the Intel MBPs that I've and others own....lasting 3-4 hours.

You will always have to plug it in unless you need it for only 2-3 hours. MBA is a killer machine and has a beautiful design. The best designed laptop and build for portability, productivity and writing/coding. It's the only Apple laptop that has great battery life AFTER owning it for years. MBP m1 or m2 will crap out like Intel.

MBA is the best for the average consumer or non-power users. I'm disappointed they upped the price to where it's nearing MBP 14" territory. If it was priced normally like the M1 MBA (MBA M1, 512/16 for ~1300), it would be an almost no-brainer for the average consumer. Now you gotta wait for a sale or buy the m1 MBA (which seems like a good choice atm until the next big improvement comes along..i.e. a better screen on the MBA or faster CPU).

But now the M2 MBA 512/16 is near $1600 after taxes excluding the $150 Back to college GC which IS NOT cash to me. That $1600 is near the price of a new MBP 14" from Bestbuy last sale ($1700) or the current Apple sale. MBA m2 should be priced around $1300 for a 512/16 config...
is that true regarding the battery? they should have called it the Air Pro lol!
 
when I had my 16 before I used that for the sofa! lol... sure 14 is just fine... I just consolidated into the m2 16GB air.. no need to all all those devices for me...
Yeah, 14” is fine size for sofa use. Anyway, I find using any MacBook always something that needs special procedures when using and especially before closing the lid to make sure no foreign particles between display and keyboard (so I always use rubber bulb type air blower to clean possible dust particles). So for casual sofa use iPad Air 5 is much more practical. For me this two machine system is the best.
 
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MBP 14" Battery is going to crap out like the Intel MBPs that I've and others own....lasting 3-4 hours.

You will always have to plug it in unless you need it for only 2-3 hours.
I don’t know where you pull that MBP 14” battery lasts 3-4 hours…???
I just today used my MBP 14” on battery and it used like 7% of battery in 1 hour!
Of course it depends on what you do with it but for me I get easily at least the same or even more hours on battery than I got with my MBA M1. Around 13 to 14 hours on battery with MBP 14” in light use is more than enough for me.
 
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is that true regarding the battery? they should have called it the Air Pro lol!
Yes. Check reddit or this video: Day 8

It's like planned obsolescence.. Gimp the battery through software "updates" and non-native Apple apps i..e Chrome which quickly drain the battery.

Force you to upgrade 5 years from now.
 
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This is the only thing I think about with my M2 Air. Am I missing out on a beautiful display.

I absolutely love my LG OLED tv. It's probably one of the best things I've ever bought, and I got it almost 2 years ago.
I’d say my MBP 14” screen easily match or even rival my 77” LG OLED when viewing both in dark room so that you can see true black. There is only minor glow around some bright objects in MBP but blacks are really black and match OLED. Also MBP 14” screen rivals my OLED in those 5% or so gray levels where LG OLED really struggles and shows all OLED terrible features (vertical bars, uneven brightness in different parts of the screen and so on), because in MBP those show no problems.

Separately though, I'm using my Air on my lap infant of the sofa a lot already. I can't imagine balancing the 14" Pro on one thigh, like I am right now 😂
Not sure how difficult that would be with MBP but for normal sofa use on lap is no issue IMHO and no difference to MBA M1 for me.

Yeah...watching a movie, the black bars are really not black. Can see the notch, easily.

Does anyone here not have an LG OLED tv and an M2 MBA? I'm not totally convinced that the display is that great on this M2.
Display black level in MBA M2 is about the same as in MBA M1, so it is poor compared to OLED. Very noticeable if you use it in dim or dark room with material containing black bars or lot of dark scenes. Even 13” MBP has darker black level but still it is no comparison to OLED or MBP 14” which both can display real black.
 
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Yes. Check reddit or this video: Day 8

It's like planned obsolescence.. Gimp the battery through software "updates" and non-native Apple apps i..e Chrome which quickly drain the battery.
Isn’t that person running video editing there? Battery use depens on what you do with the machine. You can burn MBA M2 battery empty faster too if you do something more demanding. Just check notebookcheck test where they list run times with different use.

Force you to upgrade 5 years from now.
That is really moot point IMHO since 5 years is about how long you get OS updates for new MacBook and after 7 years it is already vintage machine. So you are going to need a new machine in 5 years in any case.
 
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Isn’t that person running video editing there? Battery use depens on what you do with the machine. You can burn MBA M2 battery empty faster too if you do something more demanding. Just check notebookcheck test where they list run times with different use.


That is really moot point IMHO since 5 years is about how long you get OS updates for new MacBook and after 7 years it is already vintage machine. So you are going to need a new machine in 5 years in any case.
No, not at all. Look at Day 8, halfway through Day 8....All he's doing is watching FB videos for 1.5 hours on near max brightness.

MBA won't be this bad.
 
No, not at all. Look at Day 8, halfway through Day 8....All he's doing is watching FB videos for 1.5 hours on near max brightness.

MBA won't be this bad.

This is actually true. If software will become more demanding years from now, so that power-efficiency cores won't be enough and m1/m2 chips will need to resort to performance cores - MBA will simply become sluggish (constant load on performance cores will cause the laptop to overheat), while MBP will drain battery faster and become louder.

I still don't see why would that mean that MBA is a better buy today.
 
This is actually true. If software will become more demanding years from now, so that power-efficiency cores won't be enough and m1/m2 chips will need to resort to performance cores - MBA will simply become sluggish (constant load on performance cores will cause the laptop to overheat), while MBP will drain battery faster and become louder.

I still don't see why would that mean that MBA is a better buy today.
I get all that..but watching FB videos, Watching youtube or browsing the web on Firefox isn't or should be considered demanding in 2022.....These machines should handle all this without breaking a sweat or draining the battery so fast. That's why I disliked the Intel based MBPs even though some of the older macs were so good.

Also, I had a 2011 MBA and it did get hot at times. But that had a 4 gb/128 gb config...
To be clear. I'm comparing the 512/16 GB MBA not the base model vs. the MBP 14". That specc'd MBA is going to be sluggish, get super hot or struggle with FB and browsing?

MBP is a power hog and drains fast. People who talk about the MBP 14" sound like the people who had bought the 2018-2019 MBP and can't resell it at 50% of what they paid for it because of the m1/m2 Macbooks.. They're desktops.
Look at some of the reddit threads about the MBP 14"'s battery life.
MBA m2 512/16 isn't a better buy at $1600..That's why this thread exists. A spec'd out MBA is too close to the M1 Pro.
 
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No, not at all. Look at Day 8, halfway through Day 8....All he's doing is watching FB videos for 1.5 hours on near max brightness.

MBA won't be this bad.
I don't really care because all I can say for my own personal experience with both MBP 14" and MBA M1. I owned MBA M1 for 19 months or so. Just got couple weeks ago my MBP 14" and for me in my use pattern battery life is very good in MBP. Easily match or even exceed that of my previous MBA M1. I have no idea how MBA M2 battery life would be but I've understood it does not differ too much from MBA M1.

You should realize that using apps that are not optimized for Apple Silicon or run using Rosetta might not be very battery efficient. Also display brightness has huge impact on battery life, it was so in my MBA M1 too. Also doing something that actually uses CPU at its full power, will result higher battery use and due to M1 Pro chip with 6 performance cores and over double TDP compared to MBA M2 it will use more wattage than MBA when running at 100% speed. Reading battery life measurements from Notebookcheck test MBP 14" vs MBA M2 they are very similar with Wifi web browsing test at 100% screen brightness, MBA M2 6hrs 35min vs MBP 14" 6hrs 30min. At full 100% CPU use and 100% brightness MBA M2 lasted 2hrs 24min vs MBP 14" 1hrs 9min (again MBP has much higher TDP but only 69.9W battery vs 52.6W in MBA, so that is expected).
 
Hmmmmm, what's your source, literally everyone is saying MBA battery is much better (15 hrs vs 10)
battery is better.. but the usage is higher cause of better CPU. If you limit your CPU to match MBA u probably can squeeze more.
 
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I don't really care because all I can say for my own personal experience with both MBP 14" and MBA M1. I owned MBA M1 for 19 months or so. Just got couple weeks ago my MBP 14" and for me in my use pattern battery life is very good in MBP. Easily match or even exceed that of my previous MBA M1. I have no idea how MBA M2 battery life would be but I've understood it does not differ too much from MBA M1.

You should realize that using apps that are not optimized for Apple Silicon or run using Rosetta might not be very battery efficient. Also display brightness has huge impact on battery life, it was so in my MBA M1 too. Also doing something that actually uses CPU at its full power, will result higher battery use and due to M1 Pro chip with 6 performance cores and over double TDP compared to MBA M2 it will use more wattage than MBA when running at 100% speed. Reading battery life measurements from Notebookcheck test MBP 14" vs MBA M2 they are very similar with Wifi web browsing test at 100% screen brightness, MBA M2 6hrs 35min vs MBP 14" 6hrs 30min. At full 100% CPU use and 100% brightness MBA M2 lasted 2hrs 24min vs MBP 14" 1hrs 9min (again MBP has much higher TDP but only 69.9W battery vs 52.6W in MBA, so that is expected).
You don't care? Sounds like those who bought a now 2 year or 3 year old, 19' and 20' Intel MBP and are now sitting on their $2000+ laptops....

You got similar battery life on your M1 MBA? Seems hard to believe...People have said they don't need to charge their laptops for DAYS. Give us some more info on usage and what your settings were.

I don't trust Notebookcheck benchmarking..there's no way M2 MBA gets 6.5 hours. They also had the 2015 MBP 15" Intel getting 7 hours 15 minutes of battery life web browsing when that came out. I can barely get 2 hours on that laptop. ....6.5 hrs on a MBA M2 web browsing? and no reviewer has complained about the battery life yet? Yeah, ok.

Btw, can you play Starcraft Broodwars on the M1 and M2?
 
Really bizarrely, I've been watching live football on my Air for the last 45 minutes along with browsing this website and the battery is still on 100%.

100%?!

M2 Air battery is incredible.
DANG. I gotta return the MBP 14" and pick up the MBA M2 or even M1.
 
Really bizarrely, I've been watching live football on my Air for the last 45 minutes along with browsing this website and the battery is still on 100%.

100%?!

M2 Air battery is incredible.
I had a similar experience a week or so ago. Started watching a baseball game on my M2 Air when it was not quite fully charged, maybe 93%. Left the room at some point and forgot about it. Came back 4 hours after I had first started watching and found it still streaming, with the screen still on, and battery at 87%. The battery life on this machine is just ridiculously good.
 
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