That’s true, but the reason that getting enough RAM is important is that swap uses SSD cycles and shortens the drive’s life.
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M2 mba - 16gb ram u notice any difference with 8gb?
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i guess a lot depends on what kind of life span one expects of a mac. i kept my 12" macbook for 6 years (i generally get new macs every 2-3 years); the drive is still doing it's job. anyway, can you provide some details? (i know what you're saying is true, just wondering what the 'real-world' facts are).
Sure.
One thing I want to point out, is I used the word "ignorance," which is simply a condition of not knowing something. I did not say people are "ignorant," which while it can mean the same thing, it often has a different connotation, in that it can be taken as a disrespectful epithet. Connotations are highly dependent on the context and manner in which the word is used.
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Hardly will such Swap usage affect and SSD's life expectancy.
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That’s crazy! Facebook is a mess so I’m not surprised that their website has issues like this.
I understand what you’re saying, I’m one of the people you’re referring to in the original post and agree with your observation 🙂.
Actually, I would adjust it slightly, at least for my particular case, in that I’m not ignorant that there are options to make the experience better, however, what’s ‘better’ is so marginal to my user experience that I don’t care. It was different 10-15 years ago when Apple was innovating with entirely new products and each new upgrade delivered completely new and incredible features.
Two years ago I upgraded my iPhone 6 to a 12 and I was soooooo excited but the reality is that I used the new one exactly as I had used the old one. The new one was frankly not that much faster. Not to mention, I waited ~six years and the battery on the 12 still didn’t last an entire day!
I’m now upgrading my 2016 MacBook (to an M2) but only because I accidentally pulled the (non-MagSafe) charger and it fell off my bed and died. I AM excited about getting the M2, but also know the feeling will dissipate within a few days because it’s going to do exactly what my last laptop did (except hopefully not fall off my bed and die - not that MagSafe is new feature either, I had a MacBook with it more than ten years ago).
I did originally order the Midnight M2, which would have given me the new fingerprint feature at least, but then I switched to Starlight so I’m not even getting the benefit of that! 😂
I bought the 16 gig version and I’m SO happy I did. I had one lite app open and a web browser with one tab and it was using almost 8 gigs of RAM. If I was doing heavy tasks on this I’m not even sure 16 would be enough.
Yes? I closed all apps except Pages and it's currently using 6.25GB of memory doing absolutely nothing but idling. 8 is not enough, especially if you have a 256SSD and it starts to swap. I'm not saying 8GB/256SSD makes the m2 slow, but it very easily caps out the RAM which is generally not something you want to have happen.
Well, the system will occupy memory if it can, because unused memory is wasted memory. This does not mean it *needs* to occupy this much memory. Amount of memory "used" is not necessarily a good indicator how how much memory is needed. If you close apps or documents it will cache information in case you reopen later, until the memory is needed for something else.
Better indicators are whether the memory pressure is yellow, and how much swap is being used.
That being said, I think the 16GB upgrade is worthwhile for most.
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I've heard this before, but I have also read that rebooting to help this is an urban legend.
How does rebooting help exactly? Does that translate to rebooting AW, iP, etc?
Always wondered this, but never understood the concept.
Thanks for indulging me.
you can google this, but it clears the ram (logically, since ram is active space only, not storage), and you get a clean start on reboot. also worth considering a safe boot (which clears the cache folder) if things seem buggy, or sluggish.I've heard this before, but I have also read that rebooting to help this is an urban legend.
How does rebooting help exactly? Does that translate to rebooting AW, iP, etc?
Always wondered this, but never understood the concept.
Thanks for indulging me.
Well memory leaks are a thing, and other than by killing leaking processes one by one in activity monitor or terminal, rebooting will release the leaked memory (temporarily). (A memory leak is when a process fails to release memory after it is no longer needed, and keeps consuming more and more memory unnecessarily.)I've heard this before, but I have also read that rebooting to help this is an urban legend.
How does rebooting help exactly? Does that translate to rebooting AW, iP, etc?
Always wondered this, but never understood the concept.
Thanks for indulging me.
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People here will debate 8GB vs. 16GB with more red-faced heated passion than the car guys debate motor oil on my BMW forums. I attribute the "facts" about either topic to little more than anecdotes, urban myths and bigfoot.
Early on in the M1 release cycle there really was a problem. Actually, there probably still is but it is much more rare now. I had a brief burst that wrote dozens of TBs over a 24 hour period when the computer wasn't in use. It only happened once on Big Sur and never again. There are other reports of similar problems but they have mostly died down to a very occasional report.