OK, wow, that's totally different data than what I saw. And unfortunately I'm about to do a lot of traveling so I can't spend more time on this now. If your numbers are correct, then... I have no idea what's going on. But they don't seem to be self-consistent.
"People understandably want to avoid Apple tax" - don't think so. Apple computers are these days much cheaper than it was in the past for what it offers. Many real die hard Mac users had to switch to hackintosh when Apple after 2012 was not able to deliver really modular powerful Mac like the Cheesegrater was and I helped exactly to those people achieve that. Unfortunately there is lot of hackintosh users who are Windows users at first place, but want to run macOS without spending a single cent. If Apple would produce such Mac Pro in 2014-15 many pro users would not have to switch to hackintosh, they would simply buy such Mac.
Haha you're funny
and obviously absolutely out of reality, but it's ok if it's your opinion. Maybe you just want to troll. Video editing sand render times are dependent on so many factors so you can't absolutely generalize like you did withou providing exact full details of ingested codecs, resolution, frame rate, bit depth, raw or not etc. etc. etc.... It's easy to prepare 4K project which would put on knees most computers as well as 4K project which would fly even on MacBook Air!
MMMMmkay. Not trying to troll. It was basic, nothing with massive amounts of effects etc. He is on here somewhere. I was surprised. He said it was the entire reason he wanted the pro. and NO, I am not out of touch with reality at all. many others are however.Haha you're funny
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I really think the Mac community should stop trying to define and use the word "professional"
Pro is anyone who uses their computer, as a creative, as their primary source of income. Photogrpahers, videographers, graphics and marketing companies. People who are on time constraints to produce their products to the clients. Pros don't automatically mean a Hollywood studio produceing feature length films.I really think the Mac community should stop trying to define and use the word "professional"
Such a rabbit hole of internet definition gate keepery.
I would imagine, "professionals working in large companies subset" care more about service contracts and replacement loaner equipment than "repairability".
Apple's solution for how it views "professional" will never optimize for "a matter of less money". If "less money" is part of your metrics, Apple doesn't consider you Pro, because Pro means "more money".
"Pro" is just marketing branding to sell more expensive stuff. It is not an identity, or market, or set of users.
If for any reason you are in any way dissatisfied with it, I would be willing to do a kindness and take it off your hands. Just let me know and I'll get a shipping label to you. 😁
But, as can be seen ALL over the industry, any “life preserver” ends up being the next “baseline tech”. IF there were support for other GPU’s, people would design solutions for those other GPU’s that already have a long history of code optimizations written for them because it’s the easiest way to get their desired results. And, the baseline for Macs would become those other GPU’s, not Apple’s.
I’ve also looking for the 60-core GPU vs 76-core GPU comparison, only seeing the 76-core benchmarks. Would like to know if it’s worth $1000 more!
That simply shows how entirely unimportant the Mac Pro is to Apple from a financial perspective (which conveniently supports the idea that there was never an extreme, because it’s that unimportant). They nailed the configuration, then waited until they were ready to sell it… with sales of the Mac Studio giving them further confidence that it was the right decision. Besides, for anyone that needed a macOS system with PCI… it’s not like those folks were going to buy a macOS system from anyone else, even if they had to wait 24 months (There are folks in this forum that’s waited longer!)
It's a short cable that operates fine with my A15 AppleTV, giving me 4K HDR...
Yeah, I used to be in the not the cable camp too. I thought I had good 4K UHD rated cable. I experienced periodic dropouts with my AppleTV connected to my LG E series OLED. The dropouts were especially noticeable, of all things, when listening to Apple Music which is why I was so adamant it was not the cable. I came across a thread here on MR about hacking a HDMI adapter to get 4K 444 10 bit HDR output on a M1 Mac Mini. After reading through that thread I learned a few things about HDMI cables I was unaware of. I finally broke down and got a certified HDMI 2.1 rated cable and have not noticed a drop out since. It may have been a firmware update that fixed the problem but I suspect it was the cable.
This is what I was thinking as well, but is it possible to ever see higher clock speeds on systems like the Mac Pro?
I think it is safe to say that the Mac Pro will never see higher clock speeds than the Mac Studio, except for some exceptional corner cases where the Mac Studio might thermally limit a bit sooner.
"I experienced periodic dropouts with my AppleTV connected to my LG E series OLED."Yeah, I used to be in the not the cable camp too. I thought I had good 4K UHD rated cable. I experienced periodic dropouts with my AppleTV connected to my LG E series OLED. The dropouts were especially noticeable, of all things, when listening to Apple Music which is why I was so adamant it was not the cable. I came across a thread here on MR about hacking a HDMI adapter to get 4K 444 10 bit HDR output on a M1 Mac Mini. After reading through that thread I learned a few things about HDMI cables I was unaware of. I finally broke down and got a certified HDMI 2.1 rated cable and have not noticed a drop out since. It may have been a firmware update that fixed the problem but I suspect it was the cable.
It's not 2x the price. The same chip+storage+DRAM costs $4K in Studio and $7K in Pro.
The best part is when they refer to Apple users as “fanboys”. Talk about a lack of self awareness.
