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I received a base model M3 14 inch Pro today — this is the first time I've ever, in two decades, gotten a new Apple anything on release day.

It does indeed have Ventura on it as I'm typing this....but since the 15 inch Pro (late 2016, Touch Bar, dying keyboard) it is replacing was two (or is it three?) major revs back it still seems new and fresh and FAST. And it has amazing battery life. I've been updating other apps, testing things and playing music on it for about three hours now, and it's at 93%.

The migration of data from the Time Machine backup of my 15 inch MBP went smoothly.

And yes, Software Update has 14.1.1 available for it, and I'll probably go ahead and do it and see how Sonoma is before encouraging my wife (13 inch M2 Air) to go there. She's on Ventura, too.

Breathe, people....
There's absolutely nothing wrong with people being annoyed that their brand new 1600 dollar laptop came with an old OS and was unable to be upgraded out of the box.

It is ok to call Apple out if they get something wrong or make a mistake, they aren't perfect.
 
I received my MBP M3Pro 14" with Sonoma 14.1.1. Problem is, I backed my M1 MBP to Time Machine on 14.2 Beta 1 and can't restore until the new MBP is on the same OS. I have my iCloud access but would likely have to download all my apps again and log into everything I need to log into.... sigh. Maybe in the next day or two? I am off Friday and was hoping to ship my laptop back for the trade up program. Anyone have any thoughts!!!
 
It's not silly to be annoyed by this.
That's what seems like the big mistake with this.

I suspect Apple's systems for uploading updates to their CDNs may run on a fixed schedule every day - it certainly seems like all Apple software releases go live around the time time.

If that's the case, they should have pushed this out to the CDN on Monday, that way regardless of how early the UPS (or whoever does their deliveries in Europe) truck turned up, the proper update was available for the person unboxing their new machine. The mistake here seems to be that they pushed the update to the CDN on the Tuesday timeline, i.e. around 1-2PM Eastern Tuesday, when that's the end of the day in Europe and plenty of machines would have been delivered/unboxed/etc in eastern North America too.
 
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They release something early and people complain if there is a problem, they release it later having prepared to make fixes or whatever… and people complain.

I’m sure Sonoma will be running on this device soon. Stop worrying so much.
I’m not worried. Was just curious but thanks for trying to console me…?
 
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Weird, I don't think there has ever been a case of Apple releasing a device that wasn't pre-installed with the latest software, much less running into compatibility issues.
 
What's wrong with Sonoma? On my machines at least, it seems more reliable than Ventura...
Always a big risk installing the latest OS before it's had a few iterations to iron out any issues. Much safer to wait a few months.

And by dodging a bullet, I mean, typically Apple releases a new macOS version with new major machine releases, AND if you buy one of these machines, it comes installed with the brand new OS version, and they don't allow installation of previous OS versions. Thus is the new OS version turns out to have some annoying bugs or issues, then you are stuck with it until they issue a fix.

I delayed buying my 2021 16" M1P MBP by a few months for two reasons:
- I wanted to make sure there were no major hardware issues with these brand new, 1st iteration, 14/16" machines. Especially after the endless debacles with the Butterfly generation machines.
- I wanted to make sure there were no major hardware issues with the brand new macOS Ventura.
 
Honestly, kinda sloppy guys. Steve would have ********** people for this. Not that he was a perfect CEO or leader by any means, but kinda ruins the illusion of "the best and fastest laptop in the world" when you can't ship it with the proper software installed. I could fix this in an hour by downloading the DMG and installing off USB, but not everyone's that clever.
 
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Just took delivery of my 15" MacBook Air. Ships with Sonoma 14.0. Software update page says "your device is up to date". Any recommendations. I did use the terminal command "sudo softwareupdate -i -a -R", which reported the same note.
 
Not sure what changed. Could have been the 14.2 update release. I can confirm that I am currently downloading the latest MacOS version.
 
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