Now just wait for the Ultra. God damn!
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M3 Max Chip Around as Fast as M2 Ultra in Early Benchmark Results
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Guys, Apple is just maintaining the tradition of releasing a new gen Mac Pro and then outclassing it six months later with a cheaper machine.
It'll be fun when the chips are released and you realize how wrong you are. This score is perfectly believable and in line with the M3 Max having 50% additional performance cores, faster performance and efficiency cores, and clock speed improvements all around.
Good times. Just think: a year from now we’ll be talking about how the 16” MacBook Pro M4 Max is faster than the Mac Studio with M3 Ultra 😆
Marketing strategy. This way Apple gets a rolling promotion campaign for free for the new machines instead of a single sugar hit
what will be interesting is how the M3 Pro compares with its predecessor, given lower memory bandwidth and swapping going on with performance and efficiency cores.
It makes the M2 Ultra Mac Pro looks silly.
I do really hope they have something more exciting planned for the Mac Pro, like what was rumored for the M2 Extreme or whatever they wanna call 4 of the SoC's fused together.
Now that would be something a bit more powerful.
I do really hope they have something more exciting planned for the Mac Pro, like what was rumored for the M2 Extreme or whatever they wanna call 4 of the SoC's fused together.
Now that would be something a bit more powerful.
That’s been the pattern so far. Across the board, from the lowest to the highest of a generation, single core scores are fairly close. Such that, if executing a low intensity single threaded process, there’s little practical difference between a base and an Ultra. That also means that one generations single core base score is more performant than the previous generation’s Ultra score.
That’s something neither AMD nor Intel will ever ship.
The number of folks that truly NEED a desktop is going to continue shrinking further and further. Folks that need desktops won’t need them for the performance, they’ll need them for the ports or slots, things the laptops just don’t have or don’t have in that quantity. As a result, the sales of ANY desktop is going to likely be far less than a million a year. The question is whether or not they would find value in producing something like an “Extreme” when the ROI just isn’t there.
Because, whenever they release the Ultra, whether it’s 12% faster or 30% faster, it’s not like anyone’s going to be able to buy a faster Apple Silicon Mac anywhere else.
I guess that takes some of the sting out of the high prices. But you’d expect this kind of improvement in the next generation of PC processors and GPUs yeah? Chip shortages aside…
Wow. Just step back and ponder how crazy it is to be able to buy a laptop with almost 100 billion transistors that also gets 22-hour battery life and is two-thirds of an inch thin and weighs under 5 pounds. The continual scaling and shrinking of technology is amazing to watch.
Yeah like something's just off. Not gonna say what it is because i have no proof. Just gonna say "hmmmmmm"
I remember the memes when the G5 Powerbook was promissed and never shipped, but even compared to the G4 Powerbooks the new MBPs are and order of magnitude smaller for the gains made
Agreed, impressive. It’s a preliminary score and a small sample though. As you state I’m looking forward to the more cpu app generated benchmarks as well. Power/performance is the true killer stat that will emerge. What kills Apple as usual though is the price I just installed an i9 13900k tonight which i bought on prime day for $520. 15th gen is 3-4 months away. You can build a comparable desktop loaded with storage, ram and amazing graphics for less than 1/3rd a comparably loaded Mac. Depends on your use case and technical skills but in the end it’s software availability that really hurts Apple too. They can solve that - they’re worth @&%%ing 3 trillion dollars as a company but for whatever reason they won’t. I’ve been waiting 20 years with feigned commitments and uplifting launches and have owned a Mac since 1988 and my SE.
This makes me really nervous to see how underwhelming the M3 Pro might be. M3 and M3 Max both look like solid products, in my opinion.
I know, it’s killing me. It’s probably going to be the least impressive, yet the one I’ll be forced to buy since I need dual external displays and have no use for the Max.
M3 Pro will consume less power, so those not needing the scary fast performance (me) will be happy with the extra battery life.
PS. M3 would be enough for my needs, but I want the 16” screen so…
Okay, I'm convinced. Sign me up for an M3 Max 14". I will feel superior to the M1 and M2 plebs who are web surfing on dated hardware, while I web surf on the latest and greatest. I will also elevate further by going with space black. Catch me at Starbucks or Panera Bread.
ok as far as they go but…
If you look at the opencl scores for the m3 max and the ones for the m2 ultra, you’ll see that the m2 ultra scores a little more than 1/3 higher: 128608 for the m2 ultra and 93579 for the m3 max so don’t bin your m2 Studio yet, especially for heavy duty graphics and hi-rez video. Built-in ray tracing and shading functions in the m3 max may even the score in some uses. Real world comparisons await.
Unlikely. I just bought a new Mac Studio M2 Ultra a couple of weeks ago. It's the lower of the two Ultra models, fewer GPU cores, but the same base Ultra. It will totally outperform any of these M3 models.
The Studio M2 Ultra has 800GB/s memory bandwidth, twice the speed of the Studio M2 Max, and far surpassing the M3 (150GB/s memory bandwidth). Also Studio M2 Ultra's SSD is extremely speedy, the fastest storage I have ever seen. I'm sure glad I bought a Build To Order model upgraded to 4Tb SSD (wow was that expensive). Anyway, these are not likely to be features you will find in any laptop. Until today, the M2 Studio is the most recently updated Mac (only like 3 months ago?) so I figured a Mac Studio M3 Ultra won't be out any sooner than late 2024.
Serious FOMO
But i'd rather put the 4 grand towards a new kitchen right now.
I'll wait for the next MBP redesign in the interim.
But i'd rather put the 4 grand towards a new kitchen right now.
I'll wait for the next MBP redesign in the interim.
I noticed the reply button is not as responsive as it use to be on my M1. 😄
This actually gets me excited for when the m5 comes out around the time I’ll probably be looking to upgrade.