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M3 Max Chip Around as Fast as M2 Ultra in Early Benchmark Results
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I'll be sitting next to you looking down on the pleb with the 14" M3 Max with my 16 core 16" M3 Max. I'll also make sure no other seating is available so someone with > 48GB doesn't reverse pleb me. Starbucks won't be happy.
Feelsbad for people jumped on the Ultra train.
It kinda shows Apple either needs to develop a separate chip for Ultra or to stop those Ultra shenanigans completely and just have Base/Pro/Max.
It kinda shows Apple either needs to develop a separate chip for Ultra or to stop those Ultra shenanigans completely and just have Base/Pro/Max.
The problem is, this is getting fast enough to bend the fabric of space/time. People think that accidental time travel is fun until they are playing Kingdom of Loathing at maximum resolution and get themselves eaten by a T-Rex.
If it's successful, we'll see a retail version of Windows for ARM and dual-boot will probably return.good luck with that) They have no chance not even with M3
If great games go to Windows for ARM, even Valve might actually make native ARM games and make Steam native.
With that "gpu" power on that, there is no chance. So this will not improve arm games. For now only Apple had a chance and even apple has to pay the developers to do that
M3 Max has 400 gb/s bandwidth, the regular m3 has 150 gb/s bandwidth.
Still less than the 800 of the M2 Ultra.
Ultra has more bandwidth and double the gpu cores than the max versions of new chips, so they are not really comparable. And this jump is big because of the 3nm, so there was a lot more headroom. M4 will be a relative small update /jump. No way the m4 max will have around 32 cpu cores and 80 gpu cores . The cores itself could be more efficient and faster, but my guess is that the m3 ultra will beat the m4 max by a great margin.
The only way Apple will eventually be suitable for triple a gaming is paying developers to make games for iPhone iPad and Mac’s, and when regeren are more triple a games for the platform, release agame console with a G5 chip or something like that. Will take at least 3-4 years.
I recently got a better paying job.
I think I know what my new disposable income is going on now!
I think I know what my new disposable income is going on now!
I do not get that Ultra is all of a sudden a bad machine. It is not a package of milk going bad. No one in their right mind upgrades any laptop or desktop every generation. Good to be back in the two figure percent generational improvements again but this is the price!
Looks like Series 3 is delivering more or less as promised and within the node shrink nominal gains. The ray tracing is the most interesting new feature and most difficult to benchmark as it is so software dependent. Looking forward to this.
Looks like Series 3 is delivering more or less as promised and within the node shrink nominal gains. The ray tracing is the most interesting new feature and most difficult to benchmark as it is so software dependent. Looking forward to this.
Agree with you about most parts, but the SSD part is not really accurate. I have not seen any benchmarks for the Studio M2 Ultra SSD faster than 5500 MBps. That’s certainly no slouch but slower even than the M2 Pro MBP which can hit 6500 MBps, and much slower than PCIe Gen 5 SSDs available for PCs that can regularly hit 12,400 MBps.
Still wise of you to get the upgraded internal storage though, as any external drives are limited to only PCI gen 3! and speeds of 3000 or less due to the thunderbolt bus.
Perhaps you are referring to small random 4K read/write benchmarks that I haven’t seen? It’s hard to find benchmarks for that on the studio as most reviewers don’t really know what they’re doing and only test (relatively less important) burst performance. But unfortunately ASi tends to do even worse in these types of tests. Hopefully by M4 Apple will finally catch up to implementing PCIe 5, or maybe even leapfrog to 6.
Or buy a studio or three. *Checks notes and adjusts glasses*, that's what Microsoft/Xbox has done over the last few years.
Me too. Waiting for comparison with m1 max GPU. Leaving GPU i think everything else is top notch in my opinion.
So what you are saying is, this new M3 Max might be a tiny bit faster than my late 2012 Mac Mini CPU/system for Final Cut? Bold statement, if true.
A great reason for pushing for a modular design. Plug the next generation into your existing computer, rather than buying a whole new computer.
Buying a whole new computer instead of being able to upgrade has been *the* approach that Apple uses. Apple makes it a chore / expensive to repair your current machine and has gone after independent repair shops for various reasons. You want new black? Buy!. You no like old keyboard? Buy new. You want to play 30 year old Myst? Buy new M3! Want to look cool at Panera and Starbucks with new M3 Max processor even though your 15 year old MacBook is perfectly capable of browsing MacRumors? BUY RIGHT MEOW!
I got the Mac Studio M2 Max just a few months ago... and now they choose to put 4 more cores in the next model. If I’d have known that, I might have held out a little longer for the M3.
Oh dear more synthetic benchmark rubbish. I’ll wait for real users using real world tests to see how they compare.
Geekbench multi-core scales badly. If you look back at m2 max vs ultra, the latter only scored 40% higher while beaing literally two maxes. Other benchmark showed gains much closer to linear scaling. It's not reliable above 8-12 cores, yet everyone here quotes this.
Well everybody knew M2 family was lacklustre. Mac Studio ultra users knew M3 would be released soon, and that it would be a more significant jump. Pretty much everybody with half a brain knew that. Who bought did it because they had to, or because they didn’t care.