m370x throttling

[Quu]

Personally I'm looking at going back to a gaming machine anyway now that I don't need something portable. Still, I feel it was a silly move using an M370 over a GTX 950M, but that's just my take on it.

I agree completely. The 950m has a lower TDP, 45 Watts vs 50 Watts on the M370X so it would have run a little cooler. It's also faster. Some sites are saying it's 20% faster than the M370X.

I think based on their products with dedicated cards all going AMD for graphics (Mac Pro, iMac, MacBook Pro) that their relationship with NVIDIA is not in a good place. NVIDIA have chips at every price segment and power envelope which are faster than AMD's equivalents. For Apple to not use them makes no logical sense except for some kind of falling out with the company.

Also I suspect it may have something to do with NVIDIA's unwillingness to change products to meet Apples product goals. AMD took the HD 7970 and rebranded it as the D700 for Apple. This is not the W9000 as it doesn't have ECC memory and all the specifications match the HD 7970 exactly.

I think Apple likely had a discussion with NVIDIA around early 2013 about rebranding the GTX Titan or GTX 780 as a Quadro type card, lacking ECC but gaining the professional branding that people would eat up and be shocked at the low price point. Remember the W9000's cost more than the Mac Pro does which is why we got D700's instead based on the consumer HD 7970.

AMD will apparently do whatever it takes to score deals these days because they need to, they are the underdog and I'm sure you all know they are supplying the APU (CPU+GPU in a single chip) to both the XBOX ONE and PS4, they are also the GPU supplier for the Wii U, that chip based on the HD 4000 series from AMD but rebranded as Latte by Nintendo.

I hope Apple will continue to offer dedicated graphics because as good as Intel is getting the dedicated chips aren't simply frozen in time. NVIDIA especially has pushed efficiency so high with Maxwell (their current architecture) that there is little reason to buy anything else. Even the Fury X released by AMD just yesterday fails to match its rival the GTX 980 Ti, yet they are priced the same at $650.

 

[827538]

I agree, the industry just isn't in a good place, Nvidia and Intel are just so far away from AMD that it's us the users that are getting screwed. AMD's dGPU's just cannot compete, even when they try like the Fury X it runs so hot it's just stupid, not too mention their drivers suck.

 

[UBS28]

Keep in mind that Apple is targeting the professional market, which does more computational tasks than gaming. For OpenCL computational tasks, AMD cards tend to perform better than NVIDIA ones.

I agree, the industry just isn't in a good place, Nvidia and Intel are just so far away from AMD that it's us the users that are getting screwed. AMD's dGPU's just cannot compete, even when they try like the Fury X it runs so hot it's just stupid, not too mention their drivers suck.

Metal is apparently coming to OS X. Thus AMD cards could perform better than Nvidia cards in OS X. If Apple was targetting professionals, Apple would have included workstation components.

 

[Quu]

Yeah I agree if Apple was targeting professionals we'd see FireGL or Quadro's in these systems. The M370X and 750m are gaming cards.

 

[ApoorvPrem]

What do you guys think about Razerblade 14? Doesn't it look like MacBooks evil twin? Also a good alternative for gaming with aesthetics is what that attracts you

 

[zergslayer69]

What do you guys think about Razerblade 14? Doesn't it look like MacBooks evil twin? Also a good alternative for gaming with aesthetics is what that attracts you

Last I saw the razerblade quality doesn't hold up against the macbook pro. While yes you have a FAR better graphics card in it, I think it used a TN screen instead of IPS (I could be wrong, just going by memory). Among other things. It's also pretty expensive, about the same as the macbook. So it's not like you're getting a super deal or anything. But if power and thin are your priorities, that's where you go.

 

[ApoorvPrem]

Last I saw the razerblade quality doesn't hold up against the macbook pro. While yes you have a FAR better graphics card in it, I think it used a TN screen instead of IPS (I could be wrong, just going by memory). Among other things. It's also pretty expensive, about the same as the macbook. So it's not like you're getting a super deal or anything. But if power and thin are your priorities, that's where you go.

Thats disappointing. I don't think its possible to buy a sleek gaming laptop.

(Also you are talking about Razerblade Pro 17 inch model - That has a TN display. The 14 has IPS ) Cheers!

 

[Xgm541]

Didnt think this thread would be resurrected...

I found the issue to be Windows 10. That's what I was using at first because it was easy to install (no need to CD key) and I didnt have any windows 8 media drives available. After installing windows 8 pro, the throttling stopped.

 

[SHEEPOS]

the m370x is bad for gaming but good for video editing

 

[cbautis2]

SHEEPOS

If it throttles to 400 MHz while video editing, then it'll be just as slow as the Iris Pro in OpenCL.

 

[nspells154]

Didnt think this thread would be resurrected...

I found the issue to be Windows 10. That's what I was using at first because it was easy to install (no need to CD key) and I didnt have any windows 8 media drives available. After installing windows 8 pro, the throttling stopped.

Is there anything special that you did to stop the throttling? I am trying to use windows 8 and it is terrible. Clocks down to 600 and 400 after about 30 seconds of gaming or benchmarking.