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I do hope, that Apple will do the same for the upcomming MacBook series. Or even better, should remove the power button altogether in the next iterations.

User: Turn on my Mac.
Apple Intelligence: Cannot do that. Your Mac doesn't have a Power Button.
 
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The notch takes the cake, in my opinion. A notch on a freakin’ laptop. LOL

Especially since the notch doesn't need to be there in the first place, and even if it did - it doesn't have to be anywhere near that big. Dell ships laptops with thin bezels and they manage to fit a webcam up there.
 
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No because Bluetooth is off when the Mac is off.
The entire keyboard takes like 10 seconds to be responsive even on the login screen. I've seen this behavior on all of my Macs since I've had a Bluetooth keyboard.
That is my experience too and why I mainly use it plugged in to my MBA in Clamshell mode.

Pretty sure the suggestion that power button will start the M4 Mini is wrong, even with a lead connection.
 
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As far as I know it does not work this way nor has it ever. The Mac mini has to be powered on. Maybe that user was referring to the Mac mini being in sleep mode, which then yes the keyboard can wake it up. Though any keyboard could.
I agree. My old G4 could be powered on from the keyboard but have seen no suggestion that M4 Mini will work like this, certainly not bluetooth connected and almost certainly not wire connected.
 
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The point of it is the mini is so small and cute now that the designers want users to grab it and hold it when turning it on. In design speak this creates a physical relationship between user and product.
I can’t tell if you intended to add ‘/s’ at the end of this comment or not.
There is nothing cute or endearing about having to handle a small electronic box with cables attached without stressing the connectors or possibly affect the connections.
 
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Surely with the exhaust height it will create a gap to put your finger under and not need to turn it over.
 
Which Dell model are you referring to specifically then?

The XPS 13, it includes a 1080P webcam and slim bezels just like the new MacBooks - and has no notch. Not only is it a webcam, it also has IR facial recognition. Something Apple's best engineers can't figure out, and they have so much more space to work with because of the giant ugly notch.
 
The XPS 13, it includes a 1080P webcam and slim bezels just like the new MacBooks - and has no notch.
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Here's how it'd look with a notch. So basically the same as a MacBook currently looks. You'd just prefer to have that space on the left and right of the camera wasted by a black bar rather than be useful.

The "evil" notch gives more screen real estate.

I figured you were referring to the XPS 15 which does have thinner bezels than a MacBook but it also has a 720p webcam.
 
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I can’t tell if you intended to add ‘/s’ at the end of this comment or not.
There is nothing cute or endearing about having to handle a small electronic box with cables attached without stressing the connectors or possibly affect the connections.

Just watch the comments coming in the next month and then print out your reply and eat it :)
 
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Here's how it'd look with a notch. So basically the same as a MacBook currently looks. You'd just prefer to have that space on the left and right of the camera wasted by a black bar rather than be useful.

The "evil" notch gives more screen real estate.

I figured you were referring to the XPS 15 which does have thinner bezels than a MacBook but it also has a 720p webcam.

The MacBook has bezels as well as the notch.
 
Surely with the exhaust height it will create a gap to put your finger under and not need to turn it over.

Children and people with normal fingers won't need to raise the side. Only fat fingered people will, and even then they will love the feel of squeezing this mini for 1 second a day.
 
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we usually use rack mount chassis or security cages on the Minis, Studios, and Apple TVs we deploy so they don't walk off. It'll be interesting to see how this form factor will be able to be secured with the button on the bottom.
 
If true this would completely answer all the criticism
Well, not exactly. I don't use Apple's keyboard, but need access to the power button to turn it both off, and on. So unless they plan to add support to turn the device full ON (and off, which can currently be done on most keyboards with Ctrl-Sleep/Off button).

I'm not a fan of Apple's keyboards and prefer to bring my own, which shouldn't be a problem. It also shouldn't be a fix for a badly designed computer issue. But, I guess at least if it did, users of the Apple Keyboard (which doesn't come with the computer) would at least have the option. But I'm really doubting that, especially, it won't be able to turn the computer on, unless someone can confirm on another model?
 
The MacBook has bezels as well as the notch.
Seriously? As small as possible for the upper bezel. What would you like, the screen to have no bezel at all?

I've heard arguments against the notch but at least try to be reasonable here.
 
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Twelve South will come out with some ridiculously over priced thingie.
They already have the solution, just use this one with the Mac mini in the middle and a screen on top.
 
Seriously? As small as possible for the upper bezel. What would you like, the screen to have no bezel at all?

I've heard arguments against the notch but at least try to be reasonable here.

I'm not getting out a caliper and slide rule, but my hunch is that the XPS has higher screen to body ratio vs the MacBook, especially considering how much space the notch takes up.
 
This is a bit outdated. I think they should do a voice controlled shut down. For example, every time you sneeze, it shuts down. If you do it twice - it reboots. Buttons are so last year. Ask the car manufacturers :D
 
we usually use rack mount chassis or security cages on the Minis, Studios, and Apple TVs we deploy so they don't walk off. It'll be interesting to see how this form factor will be able to be secured with the button on the bottom.
Which is only a problem because they refuse to mar their perfect design with an industry standard security slot.
 
I shut down my computers every night, and reboot in the morning.
I even shut them down if I'm going to be out for a few hours.
I prefer not to have too many running electrical connections in my house (very old and it still has knob-and-tube wiring in some places).

IF I get a new Mini, I may just set it on my desk upside-down, so the power button is "right there" to be pressed when needed.

Remember that one must also use the power button to put an m-series Mac into recovery or even to choose booting from an external drive.

Keeping it upside down also "raises" the port connections "upwards", making them easier to get to when you have to do so.

Only concern is how this might affect cooling.
Also, will have to put something underneath to protect the polished aluminum on the [former] "top side" ...:cool:
 
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