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The Mac App Store will not be the success that the iPhone App Store is because the iPhone store has low prices and the Mac App store doesn't allow shareware where you can try and buy.

What makes you think that the Mac App Store won't end up filled with tons of very low priced and free apps?

What makes you think that some developers won't have demo and trial versions on their own web sites?

What makes you think that some of the smaller Mac developers won't sell hundred's more copies of their apps from the App store than from their own sites, and thus call the Mac App Store a huge success?
 
What makes you think that the Mac App Store won't end up filled with tons of very low priced and free apps?

What makes you think that some developers won't have demo and trial versions on their own web sites?

What makes you think that some of the smaller Mac developers won't sell hundred's more copies of their apps from the App store than from their own sites, and thus call the Mac App Store a huge success?

This.

I really don't see why people are so concerned over this. I think it's great. If you don't want to use it, then don't download it. You'll still be able to search and access developer's websites and download betas or trials directly from there, this isn't going to block those sites for you.

For the common mac user, and even for some like myself, it will be a nifty way to easily search for and find apps we may not have otherwise found.
 
You think we can use iTunes money to buy apps on Mac App Store? Got some iTunes gift cards that I rather use on apps vs. music that isn't lossless.
 
You think we can use iTunes money to buy apps on Mac App Store? Got some iTunes gift cards that I rather use on apps vs. music that isn't lossless.

Probably, it uses your Apple ID.


Explain how this is going to help sell Macs.

It will help remove the perception that there is no software for OS X.

Just having the App store running on demo machines in the Apple Store will be great thing for Apple.
 
You gotta be kidding!!!!! Steve Jobs would never allow a torrent client into the Mac app store!!!!! DENIED!!!!!! Just look at the app store now, Apples walled garden. Soon we'll have to use PC's to jailbreak our Mac's, how ironic will that be??!!

Transmission or uTorrent will be accepted. There are no rules to prevent that. Do you think that apps like Unison won't be accepted too? You know you can steal stuff using them just as you can steal stuff using FireFox or Chrome or Safari. This is beyond ridiculous.
 
The Mac App Store will not be the success that the iPhone App Store is because the iPhone store has low prices and the Mac App store doesn't allow shareware where you can try and buy.
I'm not going to plunk down $29 or more to buy an app that may not be what I like and be stuck with lemon software without the ability to get my money back.
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When is everybody going to stop complaining about this? You can actually get a refund if the App is not what you wanted it to be:

http://www.knowyourmobile.com/features/408977/how_to_get_a_refund_from_the_itunes_app_store.html
 
Isn't it a bit weird to have iTunes for Music, some videos and iOS Apps, and then have another App just for Mac Apps? I know the Mac App Store would look weird in iTunes, and the iOS App Store would look strange in a brand new App, but there has got to be a better solution!
 
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It won't be a success because you won't buy something? I think its safe to LOL @ you.

Betas and shareware garbage will remain available across the web and on Devs own sites like it had been all along.
 
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firewood said:
The Mac App Store will not be the success that the iPhone App Store is because the iPhone store has low prices and the Mac App store doesn't allow shareware where you can try and buy.

What makes you think that the Mac App Store won't end up filled with tons of very low priced and free apps?

What makes you think that some developers won't have demo and trial versions on their own web sites?

What makes you think that some of the smaller Mac developers won't sell hundred's more copies of their apps from the App store than from their own sites, and thus call the Mac App Store a huge success?

You'd have to be completely braindead to not recognize and acknowledge these 3 facts.
 
Probably, it uses your Apple ID.

Definitely, because it uses your Apple ID.

It will help remove the perception that there is no software for OS X.

Just having the App store running on demo machines in the Apple Store will be great thing for Apple.

Anyone who doesn't understand why this is going to be the biggest leap in software for the Mac ever made, simply hasn't been around since June 2008.

The Apple App Store for the iPhone was the biggest thing to ever happen in phones, since wireless. Period.

Same revolution is on its way to Mac Software (something I might actually buy once again)

January, however, is really disappointing. Apple has been lame and delayed with every project this year and that more than anything has caused me to lose some interest in them.

As of right now, I have no confidence in a compelling new edition of iWork, zero expectation of an iPad 2 before late April.

The only thing that may happen will be the Verizon iPhone, and if it does, it will be a totally uninteresting announcement for current Apple customers. Seriously, are you going to run out and switch carriers? If so, don't let the door hit you on the way out...one less geek stealing my bandwidth.
 
This.

I really don't see why people are so concerned over this. I think it's great. If you don't want to use it, then don't download it. You'll still be able to search and access developer's websites and download betas or trials directly from there, this isn't going to block those sites for you.

For the common mac user, and even for some like myself, it will be a nifty way to easily search for and find apps we may not have otherwise found.

I think what's missing here is that while apple may or may not ever prevent third party apps using third party distribution methods, non-app store apps may be depreciated- officially or unofficially. Even in the most positive of lights, with apple using the app store to more tightly control apps and their installation, they will likely be able to implement features that only apply to app store apps, making app store apps more attractive.

Also, while power users may always be aware of the benefits of non-regulated, non-app store apps, the average user would likely gravitate towards the app store thus making it difficult financially for non-app store apps to compete.

In the end, I believe that if the app store is the success that apple wants it to be, it would benefit the average user to the detriment of the power user. But then again, that's the way its been for a while (and it does make sense for apple). However much we (the macrumors minority) complain that what apple does isn't necessary the best thing to do, the things that apple does do helps apple sell to the more general public. (e.g. selling a relatively feature limited iPad upset some of us who thought it could do a lot more than be a bigger iPod, but apple probably sold a lot more iPads because it was as simple as it was).
 
Isn't it a bit weird to have iTunes for Music, some videos and iOS Apps, and then have another App just for Mac Apps? I know the Mac App Store would look weird in iTunes, and the iOS App Store would look strange in a brand new App, but there has got to be a better solution!

I thought about that and the answer is no, there isn't. Not with the way everything is currently structured.

Mac App Store, one big blue button on your Mac.

iOS App Store, one big blue button on your iOS.

That's all you need to know. That's why the iOS App Store is so hidden on the Mac right now. They had every intention of unleashing a Mac App Store, and didn't want the confusion of which apps for which machine.

I think eventually, all Apps will be available through iTunes, with the App Store Apps themselves still being the go to place on either device. You may very well see Universal Apps get expanded to include Mac version as well.

I doubt very much that any large number of people use iTunes to find Apps. Yea, we the geeks do. Maybe 10% of all users.
 
I think what's missing here is that while apple may or may not ever prevent third party apps using third party distribution methods, non-app store apps may be depreciated- officially or unofficially. Even in the most positive of lights, with apple using the app store to more tightly control apps and their installation, they will likely be able to implement features that only apply to app store apps, making app store apps more attractive.

Also, while power users may always be aware of the benefits of non-regulated, non-app store apps, the average user would likely gravitate towards the app store thus making it difficult financially for non-app store apps to compete.

In the end, I believe that if the app store is the success that apple wants it to be, it would benefit the average user to the detriment of the power user. But then again, that's the way its been for a while (and it does make sense for apple). However much we (the macrumors minority) complain that what apple does isn't necessary the best thing to do, the things that apple does do helps apple sell to the more general public. (e.g. selling a relatively feature limited iPad upset some of us who thought it could do a lot more than be a bigger iPod, but apple probably sold a lot more iPads because it was as simple as it was).

It will benefit all users, and Apple, and devs. There is no legitimate arugment that sees this being a negative for anyone.

*****Steve Jobs stated publicly that the Mac App Store will not be the only place to get Apps...but it WILL, be the best.*******

Those are true words, and if the indie dev is no longer happy with his 2 sales a month, maybe he can change one or two interface elements and start making some real money.
 
As a user of Mac and not a developer, I am looking forward to the Mac App Store. I like the [iOS] App Store and the iTunes store.

Many people complain about the walled garden eco-system of iOS and how Apple curates it. I am on the other side of the fence. I like the curated platform of iOS. I am not one who jail breaks his phone and I enjoy the user experience of apps that have passed Apple's tough application standards. Sure a few apps get by with a bug here and there, but for the most part they are usually quite stable. Someday, someday, there will be malware on iOS and it will probably happen to those who get their apps elsewhere besides the App Store. As along as Apple keeps tight control and screens every app they approve in their store, I feel safe in knowing that Apple isn't going to allow malware to infect my iPhone.

Now for the forthcoming Mac App Store, I look forward to it because of the same walled garden curated reasons of iOS. So any app that I will get there, I feel I can trust to be safe and not infect (maybe someday a virus will go around on OS/X) or crash/wreck my Mac. Another reason for my liking the idea is ease of use. Just like iTunes and iOS, finding everything (most everything) I would want is just a click (or touch) away on my screen. I won't necessarily have to search all over the Internet or local stores for something. That of course after some time when the Mac App Store gets more and more apps in it.

OS/X isn't and I doubt will ever be the completely closed off walled garden that iOS is. Apple is still allowing apps to be published for OS/X as they always have been; on their own websites and in stores.

I have never had any bad experiences with any Mac app that I bought or downloaded from the Internet, but that doesn't mean that someday I won't.

Just as I mentioned before, we all know there are no viruses out there in the wild for OS/X, but I think that eventually someday there will be. Getting apps free from malware at the Mac App store when/if viruses do make their way to OS/X will be a comforting feeling.
 
Transmission or uTorrent will be accepted. There are no rules to prevent that. Do you think that apps like Unison won't be accepted too? You know you can steal stuff using them just as you can steal stuff using FireFox or Chrome or Safari. This is beyond ridiculous.

You need to lay off the Apple cider!!!!! These apps will never be accepted!!! I would even bet any app that directly competes with Apple apps will be rejected. I assume that you think PwnageTool will also be accepted in the Mac app store with open arms. In due time all Mac's will be in lock down and you won't be able to install anything without Apple approving it. After all Steve and company only want to protect you and save you from harm. All major credit cards accepted.
 
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