Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Summary of my above rant.

Basicly I'm pissed off because MTI hit the nail on the head. It's all about the money.
 
Also I'm not using doubleTwist or any other program, I spent to much time organizing 100+Gb of music on iTunes, I doubt the info will transfer smoothly. Also I love the idea of controlling my iTunes, that plays over my airport express, with my phone. I guess the plus side is that an android app for grooveshark will be out soon, probably before their is an iPhone app for it, if there ever is one.

you do realize double twist uses the same library as itunes right? you dont have to reorder anything, it shows up exactly as it does in itunes with no effort other than installing doubletwist

try it before you knock it;)

best case: it works for you

worst case: you uninstall it

whats to lose trying it out?

the whole point behind double twist is to break the itunes "monopoly" on syncing only to iphones when everyone has itunes and wants to sync their stuff on non apple phones
 
The iTunes/Palm Pre back and forth means they will never officially support the Droid.

Not at all. Palm faked an Apple ID to get it to work. Apple's got a problem with Palm being shifty, it's not about iTunes.

Except that having a Windows version of iTunes means they'll sell more iPods/iPhones. Adding connectivity for the Droid wouldn't help them in any way.

More and more people will be dropping their home computers for mobile devices like the iPhone and the Droid. What better way to get Droid or others exposed to Apple than the method they've bee using for years and have proven to work?

Droid will get itunes support right after apple lets palm use itunes legally :rolleyes:

There's a difference between creating a windows itunes app and letting competing devices access itunes.

You're mixing two very different scenarios. And your last statement makes absolutely zero sense. It's a contradiction.
 
The "Cult of Mac", in order to grow, needs to be inclusive otherwise it creates opportunities for others to capture that abandoned market segment.

When you get down to it, how does it hurt iPhone/iPod by having owners of PCs or other mobile phones buying music and video off of iTunes?
 
. And I don't doubt that I was naive, but I hoped they would be different then those corporations they once stood against.
But, I could see it coming.

This is business. Business is not altruistic by nature, it exists to generate a return for its owners/investors. Altruism by business is usually done in order to look good, so that....you guessed it, they can generate more business.

People and non-profits are another matter.
 
One of the rumors that was floating around before the release of iTunes 9 was support for third party devices. A lot of people were highly skeptical of that part of the rumor, and with good reason. Apple doesn't make a lot (yeah, I know, but according to them) off of iTunes media sales. iTunes is the conduit to sell iPods and iPhones, which right now, let's face it, seem to be their main focus right now. Remember: it's Apple Inc. now, not Apple Computer Inc. anymore.

I just bought a Droid yesterday and I'm as frustrated as you are about all of this. Yes, I downloaded doubleTwist and updated to the latest version. It hangs up sometimes, and once you transfer the iTunes library once, and try to add any new files to iTunes? Nope, doesn't sync to doubleTwist. You have to drag and drop files over to update it, by hand. It's a pain. Salling Sync? Freezes and errors. Like the Droid, the possibilities look great, but for the moment, there are problems. I keep reading about how much people love doubleTwist, but it's been causing me problems personally.

And as to the Droid itself: Why the hell is it that when you plug the Droid in with the USB cable, you have to go to the Droid, pull down the USB menu, and select "Mount SD Card" every time? Why doesn't it just appear on the desktop like a USB drive or device should? It's a small thing I know, but after doing it several times, it gets a bit irritating. That just seems a basic to me that the device should appear on the desktop. If USB sticks can do it (and yes, they are FAT formatted) then the phones should too.

I would love iTunes integrated support for Android devices, but unless someone can come up with a third party "plug-in" of sorts that would tell iTunes to recognize Android devices (and no, not "trick" iTunes the way that Palm tried to do) then I'm afraid we're left in the lurch unless 1) Motorola Media Link gets written for Mac, or 2) doubleTwist, Salling Sync or other software fixes the bugs and makes it work much better and easier.

Oh yeah: why didn't I just get an iPhone? Because I've been with Verizon for the past ten years or so, after dealing with Cingular and having no signal in certain places I have to be at, or having calls drop occasionally. I haven't experienced that yet with Verizon, so I'd rather stay with them. If it weren't for that, I'd probably have an iPhone right now.
 
I just bought a Droid yesterday and I'm as frustrated as you are about all of this. Yes, I downloaded doubleTwist and updated to the latest version. It hangs up sometimes, and once you transfer the iTunes library once, and try to add any new files to iTunes? Nope, doesn't sync to doubleTwist. You have to drag and drop files over to update it, by hand. It's a pain. Salling Sync? Freezes and errors.

Do the folks from Markspace (Missing Sync) have anything for Android yet? Looks like they have a beta version. That might be good for the Droid. Give it a go. These guys have such an interesting site/product, it almost makes me want to get a Palm Pre or something just to see if it works.
 
I checked Markspace out, and it looks real promising, but at the moment they say that they don't support Android 2.0 and the Droid, but they do support Android 1.5 and 1.6, with Android 2 support "coming soon."

So yeah, I've got my eye on checking that one out, as soon as they announce Android 2.0/Motorola Droid compatibility.
 
You mean like a Windows version of iTunes!? Blasphemy!:rolleyes:

Just because iTunes doesn't yet support the Droid doesn't mean it won't. But like others have said, Doubletwist seems your best bet for now.

Going by how Apple kept locking out the Pre, any chance of the Droid getting itunes access is a pipe dream.

Tying products together to form a monopoly, is exactly what anti-trust laws exist to stop.
And this is easily as bad if not worse as anything microsoft ever did.

Yeah right, go tell Google to develop their own products, Apple doesn't have to support jack and I would like you to bring this up to any government tribunal.
 
I am able to manage the media on my Droid without any issues on my Mac.

I have found that iPhoto is compatible so pulling pictures and video off of my phone is just like any digital camera. I have about 1,800 songs loaded on my Droid and just used drag and drop off of iTunes to do it. I just made a playlist of songs that I wanted and then dragged the songs to a folder that I made on my Droid's Micro SD card. When you start the music player on the Droid all of your songs are there including artwork if you have it. It's really easy to do without any additional software.

The only thing that you have to remember is that the Droid will not play DRM Protected AAC music or video files. The new Purchased AAC files from the iTunes Store play without any issues on the Droid. I have upgraded most of my library to the new DRM free files so I am good to go on my Droid. If Apple had left DRM in place then it would have been a much larger issue to find ways to play your purchased music.
 
Going by how Apple kept locking out the Pre, any chance of the Droid getting itunes access is a pipe dream.

If Droid devs were faking USB IDs like Palm in order to coerce iTunes syncing, you might be right w/ that analogy. Judging by the Apple/Palm pissing contest, Apple enjoys any tit-for-tat chance to use its lawyers & piss some more, but thus far it has no reason to piss on Droid in such a way as it already has w/ Palm regarding iTunes syncing.

The correct statement -- which you made in your next comment -- is simply "Apple doesn't have to support jack". Bravo flamboyant fanboyism.
 
This is correct way to sync with iTunes (Blackberry connect and I believe Markspace does the same)

...and an incorrect way (Palm Pre)

So I would suggest Android developers need to use the right way.
 
Too bad you don't have Windows, MediaMonkey is far superior to iTunes in almost every way. I wouldn't of discovered them if not for the Apple/Palm pissing contest. Thanks Apple, I found a better alternative! No more music income for you from me.
 
Looks like Markspace just released their Android 2.0 sync software. Have you given it a try? Let us know how it works.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.