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That would also be convenient for rack mounting, if you turned the tower 90 degrees on its side, you could turn the optical drive box too.
But my money's on the other design from yesterday, the photo the guy "smuggled out in his pants".
Still hoax
Nothing said here makes sense out of having USB 1.1 and USB 2.0 ports both. They are the same physical size/shape, unlike FW400/800. USB 2.0 doesn't slow down because of 1.1 peripherals--and if it did, that would be a reason to have more than one 2.0 bus--not a reason to have one bus be 1.1-only. And USB 2.0 is not expensive either. Its not as if having all ports support BOTH 1.1 and 2.0 would make the price go through the roof. Look at all the PCs with USB 2.0 ports. Do any have separate 1.1 ports too? No. No reason to. It would only be confusing.
(The Macguardians "photo" is a 3D render by the way)
Nothing said here makes sense out of having USB 1.1 and USB 2.0 ports both. They are the same physical size/shape, unlike FW400/800. USB 2.0 doesn't slow down because of 1.1 peripherals--and if it did, that would be a reason to have more than one 2.0 bus--not a reason to have one bus be 1.1-only. And USB 2.0 is not expensive either. Its not as if having all ports support BOTH 1.1 and 2.0 would make the price go through the roof. Look at all the PCs with USB 2.0 ports. Do any have separate 1.1 ports too? No. No reason to. It would only be confusing.
(The Macguardians "photo" is a 3D render by the way)
Really? On my QS I have to pop out the lower plastic tab on the front, remove a bunch of screws, and then deal with the nightmare of squeezing the trolley out with all sorts of protrusions getting in the way at every which angle! I'm amazed I got it out at all. Reminds me of the sofa on Richard MacDuff's stairs.
The most plausable description thus far.
The only thing I hope isn't accurate is there was no mention of USB on the front, and only one FW port. To be a clean machine like Steve likes (fewer cables) and a good "digital hub" we need a few of each on both back and front.
Fun to think about though.
The only thing I hope isn't accurate is there was no mention of USB on the front, and only one FW port. To be a clean machine like Steve likes (fewer cables) and a good "digital hub" we need a few of each on both back and front.
Fun to think about though.
On my QS I replaced the stock 12X drive with a 52X one from a staples rebate, and it was pretty simple. I learned that power supply cords are VERY tight and to use pliers.
Remember that white plastic thing, said to be produced in Asia awhile back.... Doesn't that seem like something that could be used to switch the orientation of two optical drives? I can't find a link to it now, but I remember that as something posted up as a rumor here and on appleinsider awhile back.....
here we go:
Here is a messageboard reference to it:
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21160&white+plastic
here we go:
Here is a messageboard reference to it:
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21160&white+plastic
Well, to be fair, one look at the QS and it's obvious that a drive upgrade will not be as simple as the MDD or the Yikes!/Sawtooth/DA models.
Originally posted by MikeH
And back to the point at hand:- This version sounds great, but I'm taking it with a pinch of salt. A two buttons mouse would be fantastic (for me), but I'd be suprised if Steevo allows it.
The NeXT Cube had a two button mouse...
And back to the point at hand:- This version sounds great, but I'm taking it with a pinch of salt. A two buttons mouse would be fantastic (for me), but I'd be suprised if Steevo allows it.
The NeXT Cube had a two button mouse...
Oh get off your soapbox. Not that you haven't already been replied to, but the idea that any vendor outside the US has these boxes is even assuming the products will be ready to be sold on Monday! Nice little world you are living in, my friend!Originally posted by groovebuster
Errmm... maybe because Apple is selling their products world-wide and product launches are normally world-wide at the same date?
So tell me why someone in Germany should have NOT access to these boxes??? Or do you think that Apple products are USA exclusive for 3 months before other "unworthy" nationalities can get their hands on them?
Nice little world you are living in!
Before all you international types start accusing Americans of arrogant superiority isolationism, maybe you should introspect what attitude your accusations stem from.
Back OT, I remember one year I was in the bleachers for the big annual rivalry football game, and a ref made a rediculously bad PI call. The crowd (starting with me and my rowdy friends) started chanting something that I think is about appropriate for this article:
"Bull-****!"
"Bull-****!"
"Bull-****!"
Totally.
Actuall you are the one who needs to do a little introspecting. The facts are:
1) international shipping is notoriously dicey, so if Apple wanted to ensure that they would be in the retail chain on time they would have sent them last week.
2) As I mentioned before - Apple does NOT have actual Apple owned stores in Europe, so who do you think will get these? Cancom and FNAC. They are the 2 largest Apple Authorized retail stores in Europe.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe there are strict specifications regarding the size, position, spacing, and all other physical aspects of PCI slots. I don't think any form of diagonal cards could be called "PCI slots," because they wouldn't conform to the specification.
It just doesn't seem necessary (the airflow hypothesis doesn't make any sense, either).
Ahem...HELLO!!!
Are you under the impression that these will be ready to sell on Monday? I thought most of the members around here had given up such fantasies and resigned themselves to the fact that although the 970 may well be primo'd at WWDC, they are almost definitely NOT going to be shipping for another couple of months.
Maybe I'm just being pessimistic
Originally posted by BaghdadBob
Ahem...HELLO!!!
Are you under the impression that these will be ready to sell on Monday? I thought most of the members around here had given up such fantasies and resigned themselves to the fact that although the 970 may well be primo'd at WWDC, they are almost definitely NOT going to be shipping for another couple of months.
Maybe I'm just being pessimistic
Who knows? I guess we'll all find out Monday. Why would Cancom and FNAC be recieving boxes of PowerMacs that aren't for sale?
How can anyone have resigned themselves to anything? IT'S ALL RUMORS!!! I can't believe that so many people get so worked up about rumors! Nothing is set in stone, we can't draw any conclusions based on any of the thousands of threads bouncing around. Pure and simply it's all 100% speculation until Steve takes the stage.
It was an old rendering that popped up on SpyMac a few months ago - right after the MDD came out. Nothing to get excited about, it looked nice but if it were real it would fall over due to the curved bottom!
Anyone in here besides me ever use a blue tooth mouse?
ok, now how many have used it for photoshop work?
I have the MS blueooth mouse, I CANT use it for graphic work, because it jumps around.
It will loose connection for a sec and when it comes back, the mouse tries to guess where it should be.
if this happens when drawing a curve, it will result in a big straight line in the middle of it.
I for one hope there is not a bluetooth mouse.
Though on an imac, it could be nice because there would be NO wires basically
however, now that the mouse has been changed and is no longer called the "pro mouse" i do think a new mouse is completely possible with two buttons.
hmmm... i thought they changed the name... but on second look, it is still the pro mouse
ok, now how many have used it for photoshop work?
I have the MS blueooth mouse, I CANT use it for graphic work, because it jumps around.
It will loose connection for a sec and when it comes back, the mouse tries to guess where it should be.
if this happens when drawing a curve, it will result in a big straight line in the middle of it.
I for one hope there is not a bluetooth mouse.
Though on an imac, it could be nice because there would be NO wires basically
however, now that the mouse has been changed and is no longer called the "pro mouse" i do think a new mouse is completely possible with two buttons.
hmmm... i thought they changed the name... but on second look, it is still the pro mouse
I didn't take it that way...
That shows that you don't know anything about dealers in europe. Of course the certified Apple dealers here have an NDA with Apple. That puts them on the same level with Apple stores in the US.
Why do you assume that there are only little vendors in europe? I know at least 4 or 5 Apple vendors in Germany who are certified Apple dealers who are likely to have received those boxes.
Second you should inform yourself better. There are several rumors meanwhile about stores in Germany that received those mysterious boxes too.
That's why we talk about rumors here, right?
Two wrong presumptions on your side...
1) (again) Not every vendor is little outside the US.
2) To ship an amount of that many boxes around the world (we are talking about thousands here) isn't that easy. I am pretty sure FedEx wouldn't be very happy to ship 20,000 PowerMacs to Europe or across the USA over one(!) night. It would be almost impossible volume wise. They want to make sure that the stuff is available everywhere with a big bang.
Not entirely true. Lately at least the hardware was always shipping in europe at the same time as in the US.
That doesn't prove that it is not true and has nothing to do with the other points.
I never concluded that so thanks that i am not an idiot then.
Same what I think about you...
Good night from Berlin,
groovebuster
First... calm down!
So far nobody knows for sure what is in these boxes anyway. But there is a big event in Berlin for the press when Jobs has his keynote at the WWDC, whatever will be sold from monday on in the stores, it will be available immediately also in Europe at certified Apple dealers.
*yawn* ... finished?
What is so special about football that you had to highlightfoot?
Very interesting that you like football...
We'll see. Maybe I am wrong, maybe I am right...
groovebuster
So far nobody knows for sure what is in these boxes anyway. But there is a big event in Berlin for the press when Jobs has his keynote at the WWDC, whatever will be sold from monday on in the stores, it will be available immediately also in Europe at certified Apple dealers.
*yawn* ... finished?
What is so special about football that you had to highlightfoot?
Very interesting that you like football...
We'll see. Maybe I am wrong, maybe I am right...
groovebuster
Anyoen catch the DUAL part?
OK-
I think its total BS.
Reasoning:
1. Dual core 970? At first I thought it was a translational thing until it later said Dual core = two cores on chip (singular).
We know beyond any doubt that the 970 will be a single core microporcessor. The 980 will be capable of having multiple cores, not the 970.
So, this just shows the posters general ignorance of the situation, or some other grievous error.
2. Regardless of NDA aggreements, I find it hard to believe that actual local retailers have these machines. I can say that I do part time work at an Apple branded retail store, and here in the US in California, we have no stash of mysterious boxes. That said, if we got stor epromo materials, they would be courier delivered or FEDEX delivered Saturday or Sunday to us. But I just don't think the announcement of the single most important release in the history of Apple in the past decade would be sitting in local retailer store rooms worldwide.
3. The kitchen sink theorey. This rumor tossed in every other rumor out there. They left none behind, possibly in the hopes that if they get 65% correct they did good. Its all a shotgun approach.
4. Box/manual/System Profiler
If they copied the box, which would have the stats, then we would also know videocard (a big mystery and an important fact), system software version, bundled software, etc. I do not think unless major changes ocurred to the box dsign, the details of pivoting drive bays, or diagnol PCI slots would make it on the box. If they read the manual, then they would have the same data with more detail. If they turned it on, then they would have even more, which was not provided.
5. Blue tooth ADC 2 connection? What is this? Bluetooth connection to a wireless monitor? Bullshi*. And if the machine has BT builtin, y9ou do not need it in the monitor as well. Just doesn't make any technical sense.
OK-
I think its total BS.
Reasoning:
1. Dual core 970? At first I thought it was a translational thing until it later said Dual core = two cores on chip (singular).
We know beyond any doubt that the 970 will be a single core microporcessor. The 980 will be capable of having multiple cores, not the 970.
So, this just shows the posters general ignorance of the situation, or some other grievous error.
2. Regardless of NDA aggreements, I find it hard to believe that actual local retailers have these machines. I can say that I do part time work at an Apple branded retail store, and here in the US in California, we have no stash of mysterious boxes. That said, if we got stor epromo materials, they would be courier delivered or FEDEX delivered Saturday or Sunday to us. But I just don't think the announcement of the single most important release in the history of Apple in the past decade would be sitting in local retailer store rooms worldwide.
3. The kitchen sink theorey. This rumor tossed in every other rumor out there. They left none behind, possibly in the hopes that if they get 65% correct they did good. Its all a shotgun approach.
4. Box/manual/System Profiler
If they copied the box, which would have the stats, then we would also know videocard (a big mystery and an important fact), system software version, bundled software, etc. I do not think unless major changes ocurred to the box dsign, the details of pivoting drive bays, or diagnol PCI slots would make it on the box. If they read the manual, then they would have the same data with more detail. If they turned it on, then they would have even more, which was not provided.
5. Blue tooth ADC 2 connection? What is this? Bluetooth connection to a wireless monitor? Bullshi*. And if the machine has BT builtin, y9ou do not need it in the monitor as well. Just doesn't make any technical sense.
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