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Mac Market Share Over 7% In December
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No, it doesn't. That's what an increase in traditional market share would mean. This is a statistic about installed base, which is not the same thing at all.
Family is switching...
I was the first in my family to by a Mac this past June (MacBookPro) and since then have touted how wonderful Macs are to my family. My little brother, who is a practicing doctor made the conversion this Holiday break and is enjoying his iMac. My sister-in-law, also a doctor is getting one after MacWorld as well. Glad to see more and more of my friends/family finally adopting! Finally used iChat for the first time this weekend with them and LOVED it!
I was the first in my family to by a Mac this past June (MacBookPro) and since then have touted how wonderful Macs are to my family. My little brother, who is a practicing doctor made the conversion this Holiday break and is enjoying his iMac. My sister-in-law, also a doctor is getting one after MacWorld as well. Glad to see more and more of my friends/family finally adopting! Finally used iChat for the first time this weekend with them and LOVED it!
No, why would it have that data? It just monitors what web browser requests pages from its web sites.
I converted 2 years ago and my immediate family loves Macs, but I have no luck converting others. Everyone is stuck on Windows and have no plans to try anything else. (Or they complain they can't afford a Mac)
As implemented by Microsoft (as of XP SP2), I would agree with you - HOWEVER....
One of the things that tends to make Windows still rather insecure is also the same reason lots of businesses stick with Windows - ActiveX. Microsoft knows it's a flawed technology, and by default it's off now. BUT (and it's a really big BUT) Microsoft did a very good job selling people on ActiveX, and a lot of large business intranets are still built around ActiveX technology. People should just enable ActiveX in specific zones; but my experience has been they just enable it, period.
You might argue that this is the end users' fault, but I'd argue in the end it's still due to really poor decision making on Microsoft's part. They should just walk away from ActiveX completely, but they know doing so would open the door to defection from IE (and possibly Windows). It's not unlike the position cigarette manufacturers are in now.
I hope that was a joke
Virus writers are not ignoring OS X at all. Going down in history as the creator of the first "real" virus for OS X is more than enough to get people trying. It hasn't happened because OS X is relatively secure and has sensible default services running.
The way I say this is...
Do termites eat wooden houses and avoid concrete freeway overpasses because there are more houses and they are easier to find or is there some other reason? I think it is prety clear that it depends on the method of consturction. We have the same thing here with UNIX vs. Windows, they are constructed differently even if the screens the user sees no days look all alike.
haha, yeah i agree. If i'm coding a virus, its going to have tons promises for naked pics. just enter you root password here. it don't matter what OS you're in, naked pics is friggin one ring to rule them all.
I spoke with an Apple Guy. He said PowerPC is still very popular. The reason being is you can pick them up cheaper from say e-bay (and still experience Tiger/Leopard). This is a very good way for someone who does not want to spend a lot of cash while trying out apple to see if it right for them. I myself was watching a few G3/G4 ibooks that had been upgraded to larger hard-drives and memory - problem for me was the price jumped almost as high as a new macbook, so I backed off. Once a price starts jumping close to something brand new is when I say nope, rather buy it retail with the warrenty. I was quite suprised to see so many bids on pismo's, clambooks, and emacs (saw a couple of the old IIe and IIc floating around for a while too). So my guess is the number of apple users is probably higher, considering that someone upgraded and sold their old machine on e-bay to a newbie. Not to mention the people hacking and running pearpc (i am not one, if I want apple - I will run the real thing and get support).
As for Vista, well it is over 6 months since the release and even people just upgrading now are still saying DON'T DO IT. I know some people who just bought new DELL's with Vista Home Premium - they are having a heck of a time and are trying to see if there are XP drivers for their new machines (they want to upgrade back to XP). In fact I went into Walmart recently, and did not see any Vista boxes on the shelves, but still saw they wre selling XP Home edition.
What if a few people are running OS 10.4 and 10.5 on a generic PC and using FireFox and/or Safari, to access the web, does that get tabulated in with
hardware accessing the net?
What if a few people are running OS 10.4 and 10.5 on a generic PC and using FireFox and/or Safari, to access the web, does that get tabulated in with
Why wouldn't they? As far as the metrics know, it's OS X hitting the servers. The breakdown isn't by manufacturer, it's by operating system. With Apple, manufacturer is usually the same as OS, but not always...
There is an entire industry built around product placement fees. If you are watching a show/commercial/movie and an Apple or Dell or whatever product ISN'T blurred out to hide the logo, then the studio doing the production, or their sponsorship partners, or someone, CHARGED for that placement. When all of these reality TV shows blur out people's shirts and hats and stuff, it isn't because they are profane or graphic or anything like that...it is because the company represented didn't pay to play.
Watch last season of 24...Every time you see a computer monitor, you can see the logo for either Dell or Apple. So we're expected to believe that these people are using custom-built super-duper anti-terrorism software from the future that runs natively on OS X and Windows? How awesome is that? Bah. They go to apple with their "we will feature your logo for 2 seconds in 5 scenes this week for $XX,XXX. If Apple says no, and they've already shot them, the logo will get covered up or blurred in post. In a drama-type program, they will do more than just blur it out like they do with reality TV because the environments are more controlled and the editing constraints are smaller.
There have even been documented cases of subliminal product placement in dramas in the last couple of years using the same technology that puts the moving first down lines and advertiser logos on the field at on Monday Night Football.
If you see a logo for a company on something other than an ad for that company, it was purchased or a trade deal was made. No more free rides these days.
That still doesn't account for an increasein 2007of PPC Macs in their statistics. It more than implies that the methods of the survey are not accurate enough to declare marketshare to tenths of a percentage point.
If your results defy logic, either your results or your logic are incorrect.
The logic in this case would be that no new PPC macs sold in 2007 would mean a decrease in PPC marketshare year over year, as even ebay'ed PPC macs would already have been included in earlier results...
If the logic is good, the results are not.
That depends on where those PPCs were in service. I'd venture to guess PPC based Macs moving from a corporate to home environment are going to register more frequently on the sites they're monitoring.
Still, I agree with you that the margin of error is likely greater than 0.1% (otherwise they'd have published it)
Given all the comments about Apple only selling >$1000 computers, it's worth noting that the Mini sells for less than $1000. In fact you can find 'new' (as in unsold) 1.63 GHz core duo minis for less than $500. The mini is perfectly adequate for email, surfing the web, editing documents (i.e. what the vast majority of home users do with their computers).
well, the problem is that PPC mac is out of production already. So are you saying people are re-cycling old macs? that would imply that this collected data set does not corresponding to sales accurately then.
To any extend, I find its amazing they are publishing data with 2 digits behind decimal point. I guess their uncertain is probably ±1~2%, so there is really no reason to put that many significant number there. Nominal? yes, meaningful? probably not.
I also wonder why there is only one service doing these numbers. I have been tracking firefox's market share since 2 years ago. Its always the number from net appllications, or onestat.com, which update every, .... 6 months? lol
Actually...
The future of computing is a big *** table...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZrr7AZ9nCY
The future of computing is a big *** table...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZrr7AZ9nCY
Judging by the reports out there, that 10% Vista has is due to pre-installed copies on new PCs, many of which are no doubt being uninstalled and replaced with XP. There's no rush out there to buy Vista. I know many PC users and none of them are using it yet. Most have expressed caution against it. Besides, 10% market share for an update to an OS that has 90%+ of the market doesn't seem like anything to brag about, especially a year after release.
Man, I wanna party with you so bad.
Funniest post of the year, so far. Lmao thanks for the laugh
Yep, that's definitely a factor - probably a huge one. Towards the end of the month, people weren't at work, they were at home, where you're more likely to find Macs. January and February numbers will tell a more complete story.
While many people, especially MS fanboi are so quick to point out that you can write a virus for anything, let's not forget to remember part of the reason (probably a major part) Windows is so plagued by viruses and other nare-do-well malware is because of how it's designed.
Mac OS X (being largely BSD-based) and Linux in general, are both designed in a considerably less slipshod way. Consequently, it is nowhere near as easy to write a virus for them. This means that the percentage of Win32/Win64 virus writers who are not highly skilled coders (probably a good portion of the crowd, from what I gather) simply won't be able, easily, to produce viruses for anything other than Windows. That means both statistically- as well as numerically fewer viruses for Mac OS X in the future, regardless of it's marketshare.
This is something we should be cheering about.
Now if Apple could just get off their ass and put a two-button touchpad on the MacBooks, and not auto-disable the right mouse button on their MightyMouse offerings, we might just have something.
Mac OS X (being largely BSD-based) and Linux in general, are both designed in a considerably less slipshod way. Consequently, it is nowhere near as easy to write a virus for them. This means that the percentage of Win32/Win64 virus writers who are not highly skilled coders (probably a good portion of the crowd, from what I gather) simply won't be able, easily, to produce viruses for anything other than Windows. That means both statistically- as well as numerically fewer viruses for Mac OS X in the future, regardless of it's marketshare.
This is something we should be cheering about.
Now if Apple could just get off their ass and put a two-button touchpad on the MacBooks, and not auto-disable the right mouse button on their MightyMouse offerings, we might just have something.
My old college room mate has a daughter heading off to college this coming Fall term and she will need a notebook. I regret I have not been able to steer him away from the cheap PC's. I can't quite get the point across that there is a difference between the cost of the initial purchase and the cost of ownership. You can't beat the Wal-Mart price, but then you have to pay to own it.
To all the people quoting me....
Here is a clip from the article: (taken from http://marketshare.hitslink.com/
1. Safari for Windows.
2. Are these websites targeted to apple audiences only (ie offer apple products / downloads).
3. If these sites are being tracked knowingly, then how do they stop people purposely hitting them to drive up statics.
No matter how you look at it, everything statistic that comes out lately points to apple increasing and the monopolizer decreasing.
My point to try to clarify the increase of powerpc users, was from the fact of the number of ibook/powerbooks/emacs/older imacs for sale/sold on ebay. Newbies to the mac world are buying them up for school or home use when they cannot afford to buy a mac brand new. I still look to see what is out on ebay to see if I can pick up my first mac cheaply.
Here is a clip from the article: (taken from http://marketshare.hitslink.com/
About Our Market Share Statistics
This data provides valuable insight into significant trends for internet usage. These statistics include monthly information on key statistics such as browser trends (e.g. Internet Explorer vs. Firefox market share), search engine referral data (e.g. Yahoo vs. MSN vs. Google traffic market share) and operating system share (Windows vs. Mac vs. Linux market share or even the iPhone market share vs. Windows Mobile).
We use a unique methodology for collecting this data. We collect data from the browsers of site visitors to our exclusive on-demand network of live stats customers. The data is compiled from approximately 160 million visitors per month. The information published is an aggregate of the data from this network of hosted website statistics. The site unique visitor and referral information is summarized on a monthly basis.
In addition, we classify 430+ referral sources identified as search engines.
So, based on this I say new Mac Users who are buying PPC from ebay does play into it. so if someone sells their old PPC to a new user and then buys a new mac - you now got 2 people hitting the web. Ok, maybe flawed logic - but considering it monitors browsers that hit sites. Now there is another issue:We use a unique methodology for collecting this data. We collect data from the browsers of site visitors to our exclusive on-demand network of live stats customers. The data is compiled from approximately 160 million visitors per month. The information published is an aggregate of the data from this network of hosted website statistics. The site unique visitor and referral information is summarized on a monthly basis.
In addition, we classify 430+ referral sources identified as search engines.
1. Safari for Windows.
2. Are these websites targeted to apple audiences only (ie offer apple products / downloads).
3. If these sites are being tracked knowingly, then how do they stop people purposely hitting them to drive up statics.
No matter how you look at it, everything statistic that comes out lately points to apple increasing and the monopolizer decreasing.
My point to try to clarify the increase of powerpc users, was from the fact of the number of ibook/powerbooks/emacs/older imacs for sale/sold on ebay. Newbies to the mac world are buying them up for school or home use when they cannot afford to buy a mac brand new. I still look to see what is out on ebay to see if I can pick up my first mac cheaply.
I would not say that macs are not used in schools. My whole district is currently switching to macs. Mini's and macbooks seem to work well in schools.
stating a point that obvious but again said... apple can thank the failure of vista to their bottom line results. An apple system running 10.4 or 10.5 beats vista hands down IMHO and have a MB where I have XP running. I had an old vista machine but formatted that boy down. Have my MB, ordered a new MBP, and happy 100%