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Mac Market Share Update
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Hmmmm... so you don't think Apple's overall marketshare on this planet is important?!
What amazes me is how the stock has now started to decline on news that Apple didn't meet or beat the expectations which The Street put out for them.
They still sold at least as many computers this year as last (maybe actually a few more); their iPod sales are off like a rocket... Yet somehow that just isn't enough.
People need to stop looking at heads of corporations for the cause of this kinds of sickness (which ultimately permeates through all levels of the company) and start looking at our society. We're a sick bunch of idiots.
They still sold at least as many computers this year as last (maybe actually a few more); their iPod sales are off like a rocket... Yet somehow that just isn't enough.
People need to stop looking at heads of corporations for the cause of this kinds of sickness (which ultimately permeates through all levels of the company) and start looking at our society. We're a sick bunch of idiots.
Surely...but as a Brazilian national, I know how hard it is for Macs to compete in foreign markets, when they cost as much as 3x more than locally-produced PCs, simply for tax reasons.
Therefore, it's kind of a moot point to compare market share in such different competitive conditions. The U.S. is the local market of Apple, and the best gauge of demand for Macs...Europe is pretty close as well, along with Japan...the rest of the developing and developed world is a totally different situation.
New Macbook Pros after this quarter!
Leopard after this quarter!
That's the only explanation!
Are you referring to yourself. I hate to break the ice and join this forum with a negative note, but for the love of God, you are more idealistic than pragmatic.
Investment is based on speculation. The premium amount that people were willing to pay for the stock is based on speculative properties, including company growth, revenues etc. You don't buy stocks because you FEEL good about it. You don't give Apple a star sticker because you think they TRIED. Nonsense, this isn't Kindergarten. Mommy doesn't still love you regardless of whether you draw within the lines or not. There were certain expectations that analysts set for them, and they didn't meet it. Sufficiency is not the name of the game in the investment world.
Come on kiddo. The world is a tough place. Your puppy will eventually die.
Here is a question regarding the topic of market share, and I hope someone will have some insight into this.
As I understand it, market share, when used in this context refers to the percentage of computers sold...is that correct?
If that is the case, then this isn't really an accurate representation of ACTUAL market share (what the percentage of computer users in the US are currently using). In fact, they could be drastically different. I would like to see a statistical breakdown of actual gains in market share of usage, and also conversion numbers (and how they came up with them).
As I understand it, market share, when used in this context refers to the percentage of computers sold...is that correct?
If that is the case, then this isn't really an accurate representation of ACTUAL market share (what the percentage of computer users in the US are currently using). In fact, they could be drastically different. I would like to see a statistical breakdown of actual gains in market share of usage, and also conversion numbers (and how they came up with them).
I just got back from the vet, my dog is dying. Really.
Anyway you sell stock on good news, thats why the price is going down. Relax. Marketshare gains, though abstract, are a good sign regardless of the specific data.
What are you talking about?...
And I am calm, and fully relaxed. But if you're going to call people idiots, substantiate it or you will end up looking foolish. (I don't believe it was you that I was responsding to originally)
They didn't meet their expectations, hence the speculative premium wasn't as high as it was originally. This is a fundamental concept of stock trade and investments. The idea that "high price means sell, low price means buy" can work if you are trying to explain the stock market to an 8 year old, but it certainly can be considered only rudimentary at best.
P.S.: I am sorry about your dog.
Is there a separate break-out of the market share for HOME computers and business computers?
I suspect that if overall market share is 4.7, that home computer market share may be over 10%, or maybe 15%! Does anyone know if this information is available?
I suspect that if overall market share is 4.7, that home computer market share may be over 10%, or maybe 15%! Does anyone know if this information is available?
I think you may be making a fallacious assumption on what is being referred to in particular by the term "market share", assuming you were insinuating that 10-15% of people at home use macs.
Market (sales) share, and market (usage) share are two different things.
I've seen alot of Japanese anime producers interview (laugh all you want
), and I've NEVER seen a PC on their desk. never.And macs will never get a huge chunk of market sales. PCs you have to replace every year or so. Macs you don't.
My question is this: if market (sales) share is 4.7%, I suspect the home computer market (sales) share is much higher.
Likewise the (usage) share would be higher, but that could only be determined by examining the (sales) results for the past 4 to 6 years.
Anyone? Sales for home usage only, Windows vs. Mac?
Apple doesn't have any plan to dominate the desktop OS. That can't be done in an environment where one company makes all the hardware.
So what would be a reasonable goal within this limitation?
So what would be a reasonable goal within this limitation?
My non-scientific observations
For whatever it's worth.... I've noticed SIGNIFICANTLY more Mac's lately when I am out and about in public. For instance, the other night I stopped in at a local late night coffeehouse, and was mildly stunned to notice that well over half of the laptop users in the place were on Macs. (I counted 5 MacBooks and 3 MacBook Pro's, versus 3 Dells, 2 Vaios and a Toshiba.) And we are not talking "elite creative pro" users here either - from the look of it, these were mostly local college kids (which probably also bodes well for the future of the platform - get 'em young!).
Seeing that many Macs in one coffee shop would have been unthinkable a year ago.... at least here in my neighborhood.
Definitely looks like a market share upswing to me!
For whatever it's worth.... I've noticed SIGNIFICANTLY more Mac's lately when I am out and about in public. For instance, the other night I stopped in at a local late night coffeehouse, and was mildly stunned to notice that well over half of the laptop users in the place were on Macs. (I counted 5 MacBooks and 3 MacBook Pro's, versus 3 Dells, 2 Vaios and a Toshiba.) And we are not talking "elite creative pro" users here either - from the look of it, these were mostly local college kids (which probably also bodes well for the future of the platform - get 'em young!).
Seeing that many Macs in one coffee shop would have been unthinkable a year ago.... at least here in my neighborhood.
Definitely looks like a market share upswing to me!
Shouldn't there be a new post about falling market share?
I think it's news....
I consider Apple's the BMW of computer hardware, but is it over-priced in this market?
Apple has great hardware, and I'll continue to buy it, but they need to get off the anti-Vista, anti-MS line of thinking.
I think it's news....
I consider Apple's the BMW of computer hardware, but is it over-priced in this market?
Apple has great hardware, and I'll continue to buy it, but they need to get off the anti-Vista, anti-MS line of thinking.
I think in this world of manipulated stats, the anecdotal evidence is just as powerful as some market share data.
I got turned onto mac recently, (atari-mac-windows-unix/NeXT/windows -windows-mac). I have noticed a fair amount more macs 'around town' then 2 years ago. But that may just be my eye, being tuned into it now...
I got turned onto mac recently, (atari-mac-windows-unix/NeXT/windows -windows-mac). I have noticed a fair amount more macs 'around town' then 2 years ago. But that may just be my eye, being tuned into it now...