Mac Mini 7,1 release date with Haswell i5 Processor

Discussion in 'Mac mini' started by AppleStart2013, Sep 10, 2013.

  1. AppleStart2013 macrumors newbie

    Feb 6, 2013

    I am a new user with Apple (I got my first Apple computer earlier this year with a $50 iBook G4, I was impressed with the simplistic and easy to use OS) but the problem is the iBook is very outdated and therefore doesn't run well and the thing is basically now a paperweight.

    Currently I need a new desktop computer to stream movies and occasionally surf the web from my HD tv in the living room as the old one I'm currently using is again very outdated.

    My spending limit is about $700, so I was thinking of getting the cheapest Mac Minis with 500 Gb HDD, 4 GB DDR3 RAM and Core i5 processors but the latest ones are from last year and I want one with the newest Haswell processors.

    Does anyone here happen to know a possible release date for the Mac Mini 7,1? Is it in the works at all? Or should I just get the late 2012 model?
  2. CyAnMan macrumors newbie

    Oct 28, 2012
    With you being a new mac user, you might want to wait for the next refresh of the mac mini. I bought the 2012 model and was one of countless folks that encountered the black screens, washed-out finder windows, etc using the HDMI port.

    I'm used to apple taking its sweet time fixing issues and so waited and waited and finally the fix came in December of last year, but still to this day there are folks still having issues with their mac video.... certainly you don't want to deal with this?

    I'd wait for the next refresh. When will that be? I'll hazard a guess and say early November (We are coming up on a year now since the 2012 mac mini was released), so it makes sense for the product cycle to be refreshed, although I'm wondering if maybe a more realistic release date might be March 2014?

    These are just 'guesses'.
  3. opinio macrumors 65816

    Mar 23, 2013
  4. NewbieCanada macrumors 68030

    Oct 9, 2007
    Honestly for those purposes there's little point in waiting for Haswell. It's not running on batteries and Wireless N

    Get yourself a 2012 or even 2011 model from the refurb store.
  5. Micky Do macrumors 68000

    Micky Do

    Aug 31, 2012
    An island in the Andaman Sea.
    Who knows when the next Mini will come out with the latest bits?

    We can safely guess that the present Mini will be good for OS updates for a good while yet. It will be perfectly functional; all that will be missing is bragging rights to the latest when something new comes along.

    Basic needs don't call for fancy specs. Go for what you can afford, and update as your budget allows. Even the base current model should see you right for a good few years.

    The first computer I owned was the base model 2005 Mini, which I got soon after it came out. When the HDD gave up, repair seemed pointless with the move to the Intel chip, and some other factors.

    I replaced it with a base model early 2009 that could run Snow Leopard. I did upgrade the RAM (added another 4 GB) and installed Mountain Lion last year. It looks like it will be good for a good while longer, possibly with a new HDD (or SSD replacement) another 4 GB of RAM (to bring it up to 8 GB) and an update to Mavericks.
  6. rnauman821 macrumors member

    Jul 18, 2004
    The prices for 2012 models will only drop after Haswell launches. I wouldn't buy any Apple product right now other than the Air.
  7. Fishrrman macrumors G5


    Feb 20, 2009
    If you _have to_ buy a Mini now, I'd suggest that you don't buy "the cheapest one".

    Pick up the i7 from the Apple refurbished online store.

    It will serve you 'way better.

    Best option, IF you can hold out until after the new year, is to wait for the Haswell version of the Mini. I would expect it to arrive in late January, or February...
  8. Micky Do, Sep 10, 2013
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2013

    Micky Do macrumors 68000

    Micky Do

    Aug 31, 2012
    An island in the Andaman Sea.
    Given that the OP's needs are fairly basic, how so?

    Twice now "the cheapest one" has been a good choice for my own simple needs. Going higher in the line-up would only have given me a gain in bragging rights. There would have been no significant benefit in use.
  9. 53kyle macrumors 65816


    Mar 27, 2012
    Sebastopol, CA
    Not true, assuming the mini will use the intel HD 5000, because people might want to game on a mini and that is harder with an HD 4000.
  10. phoenixsan macrumors 65816


    Oct 19, 2012

    with the today event focused in mobile tech, Apple still have to announce when will deliver Mavericks (Mac OS X 10.) and the iCan (pardon me, the revamped Mac Pro), so, as the deadline imposed by Apple itself, we can expect an October or late fall announcement to be made, about the two things I said above. Maybe a refresh in some hardware lines can slip......:D

  11. SoCalReviews, Sep 10, 2013
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    SoCalReviews macrumors 6502

    Dec 31, 2012
    The mid-range Haswell chips won't be much of an improvement over Ivy Bridge when used for desktops. I was reading a review that for some of the Haswell chips and using some applications the performance ends up benchmarking slightly lower than many Ivy Bridge chips at the same clock speed. Meanwhile Intel is releasing special higher performance Ivy Bridge-E processors for desktops.

    The main advantage for the mid-range Haswell chips will be marginally improved graphics performance and significantly lower power usage to extend battery life on notebooks and tablet devices. This could mean that the new Minis that use Haswell might have a different form factor. They will be able to use a smaller power supply and it's possible that the aluminum case will be changed in favor of a less expensive design. I hope they keep using the current aluminum case design.
  12. NewbieCanada macrumors 68030

    Oct 9, 2007
    SOME people might want to game on it, but the OP said specifically what he wanted to do with it and an HD 4000 is perfectly fine for that.
  13. MJL macrumors 6502a

    Jun 25, 2011

    And once there are no longer any updates being released for Maverick then you can switch to Windows 8 which will be supported until Jan 2023.
  14. Micky Do macrumors 68000

    Micky Do

    Aug 31, 2012
    An island in the Andaman Sea.
    You are being facetious, of course.
  15. Miat, Sep 10, 2013
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2013

    Miat macrumors 6502a

    Jul 13, 2012
    Given your needs, the only possible advantages to you with the Haswell upgrade will be Wi-fi ac, and maybe a second TB port (at the expense of losing the Ethernet port).

    If you are not doing anything that needs high level graphics (advanced gaming, serious video work, multiple large screens), then Haswell offers little advantage because the main processing upgrade this time around is probably going to be in the graphics capacity, like what happened with the recent 2013 Air upgrade.

    (I have a 2012 Air with HD4000 graphics, and it plays hi-res, high bitrate videos no problem at all on a 2560 x 1440 external screen. Even after several hours of that level of video work the CPU/GPU temperatures are still only around 60 C. :) )

    If you don't need these features, then a refurb current model is a very good buy, especially for those with limited funds.

    I am in Australia and I just picked up a refurb current model (2012) quad i7 Mini (non-server version) for about 17% discount off new price. That is only $50 more than the non-refurb current model 2.5GHz dual-core i5 Mini. (ETA: This dual core model is also now listed on the Aust. refurb page for $110 off new price.)

    Does depend on the right refurb being available in your country, of course.
  16. MJL, Sep 10, 2013
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2013

    MJL macrumors 6502a

    Jun 25, 2011
    Not at all - an OS is an OS and it does not matter to me as long as it does the job. In this case it is squeezing the maximum life out of hardware.

    Gone are the days that a new version of laptop (or desktop) 10 months later was twice (or even more) as fast in comparison to the previous model. The road forward appears to be focused on reducing power consumption which is non-issue in desktops. I am running my computer at about 6 - 8% load 24 hours 5 days a week. A 5, 10 or 15% performance improvement makes no difference.

    I just upgraded my 2010 server to the 2012 base model and have changed the drive to two SSD's. This was done so I can in due time load Windows 8 on it (at the present running 7). A bonus is the USB 3. My 2011 has a genuine Apple (Samsung) and a Samsung 830 in it and is running Windows 8 (development / backup production machine).
  17. blanka macrumors 68000

    Jul 30, 2012
    Reflecting on the iPhone 5s launch and no definitive roadmap for the MacPro: they are sleeping at Apple. Don't expect anything this year. What did the stock do after yesterday?
  18. n-evo macrumors 65816


    Aug 9, 2013
    The Mac Pro will see a release this fall. Fall doesn't start and end on September 1st. Not sure why that is so hard to comprehend.
  19. comatory macrumors 6502a


    Apr 10, 2012
    just wait one more month or two. buy the base model, no need for you to get quad core or dual i7. who knows what other features will be there?

    get a RAM after you buy mini from other vendor and upgrade to 8gigs, makes it smoother experience.

    hehe iBook G4 is pretty nice computer. i wouldnt call it paperweight. it is still good for taking with you on the road, writing text documents and doing some light web surfing in Ten four fox. maybe max the RAM? these models can go up to 1.5 gigs. if your iBook is over 1ghz, install Leopard (you can still run heaps of older software with it). Also putting in IDE base SSD will speed things up. you can get those cheap ones with only 16 or 32 gigs.
  20. rabidz7 macrumors 65816


    Jun 24, 2012
    I recommend a PowerMac G5 Quad that dual boots with OS X 10.5 and Debian 7.10
    Get a powerful PC, not a powerless one.
  21. rumplestiltskin macrumors regular

    Apr 12, 2006
    If you're not going to wait, get the 2.6GHz Core i7. That's the top of the line model. Forget the "server" (unless you -need- a server). I dropped 16GB of RAM, an SSD and a 7200 RPM 1TB HD into mine and it's very fast (and quiet).
  22. comatory macrumors 6502a


    Apr 10, 2012
    there really is no benefit for him to get dualcore i7 model. in past, at least they gave you some GPU option, now it's only bigger harddrive. not worth 200 USD in my opinion.
  23. Ice Dragon macrumors 6502a

    Ice Dragon

    Jun 16, 2009
    The Haswell i5 and i7 processors with Iris and Iris Pro graphics are available right about now for Apple to use which I hope they do. The standard voltage processors with Intel HD 4600 graphics for i5 will be available around next month.
  24. skipjakk macrumors member

    Jun 24, 2004
    Best Guess

    Wait if you can, they may roll out new hardware with the Maverick release in October (they have done so in the past). Then you can either buy new, or if the specs haven't improved much, get a used/refurbished at a discount.....
  25. kappaknight macrumors 68000


    Mar 5, 2009
    The stocks did what it has always done - go up on anticipation, drop on announcement day, go up again at quarterly earnings.

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