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I would recommend benchmarking with something other than Geekbench and Cinebench. Both tests do not tax the system for very long and thus might hide thermal throttling (or other) issues.

Perhaps something such as Handbrake as it's known to utilize a lot of cores for long periods of time. It's free software anyone can easily download and run. We can find a sample video to download and transcode.
That's what my results are from that I posted in this thread: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/2018-mini-3-2ghz-i7-temps.2153133/page-4
Handbrake is probably the most CPU intensive program I run so for me it's what I test with.
 
Possible i5 test...

Update: It appears that people want to take a different approach, so I won't be using the file that was referred to in this post.
 
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This sounds promising! I've been seeing a lot of people complaining about the thermals, but half of them are stress-testing the CPU until it hits 100C which is only pertinent to a small number of workflows. From your early findings, it's looking more like it can handle boost clocks for much longer. 4.3ghz is good!
Now I've added a Blu-ray rip in make mkv.
CPU temp is bouncing all over between 85-90c
airport card is 54c
CPU proximity 63c
GPU 75c
Memory Proximity 60c
 
Possible i5 test...

I've downloaded this mp4 video from YouTube. Unless you own a Sony RX0 camera, it will put you to sleep, but it will work well for a test.


It is 13 minutes long, 3840x2160 and 23.6MB. I also have the original 4K file prior to uploading to YouTube, which is obviously much larger.

If there's interest, I can use Compressor or Handbrake to transcode either file to whatever people want it transcoded to.

Given that Compressor is Mac software, it probably makes sense to use that.

I would also love to see this results of a real time stress test.
If possible somebody could als do it for an i5 so we can compare
 
I have both Handbrake and Compressor. Which do you want to use, what video and what transcoding?

I could also use a video of my own that's on YouTube.
I'm fine with using any video others would like to use. Though we might want to set some parameters such as it being less than 512MB (to avoid lengthy downloads for those who do not have fast download speeds) maybe HD (instead of 4K but I'm OK with 4K if that's what people want). If you have footage you'd like to use and make available to everyone I'm good with that.

Perhaps something like the following:

https://4kmedia.org/samsung-nature-uhd-4k-demo/
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Possible i5 test...

I've downloaded this mp4 video from YouTube. Unless you own a Sony RX0 camera, it will put you to sleep, but it will work well for a test.


It is 13 minutes long, 3840x2160 and 23.6MB. I also have the original 4K file prior to uploading to YouTube, which is obviously much larger.

If there's interest, I can use Compressor or Handbrake to transcode either file to whatever people want it transcoded to.

Given that Compressor is Mac software, it probably makes sense to use that.
I vote Handbrake as I have several Windows and Linux systems too.
 
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Blackmagic Disk Speed Test (i5, 256GB Flash Drive, 5GB stress)

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I'm fine with using any video others would like to use. Though we might want to set some parameters such as it being less than 512MB (to avoid lengthy downloads for those who do not have fast download speeds) maybe HD (instead of 4K but I'm OK with 4K if that's what people want). If you have footage you'd like to use and make available to everyone I'm good with that.

Perhaps something like the following:

https://4kmedia.org/samsung-nature-uhd-4k-demo/
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I vote Handbrake as I have several Windows and Linux systems too.

OK, it's unclear to me what you want to test for and how you want to do it.

For my own purposes, I want to know how this Mac mini (i5, 256GB, 8GB) performs in comparison to my iMac (i7, 500GB, 32GB, late 2014) in terms of how long certain tasks take, and using the software that I would normally use.

So I'm going to use Compressor to convert that Samsung file from H264 to H265 on the mini and the iMac and see how long each takes.

I'm also going to compare performance when converting a very large original .mov file to an .mp4 suitable for uploading to YouTube, but it sounds to me like this isn't of interest to others here.

If you have a specific Handbrake test in mind, let me know what it is.

 
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OK, it's unclear to me what you want to test for and how you want to do it.

For my own purposes, I want to know how this Mac mini (i5, 256GB, 8GB) performs in comparison to my iMac (i7, 500GB, 32GB, late 2014) in terms of how long certain tasks take, and using the software that I would normally use.

Could we ad an i7 from the Mac Mini 2018 tothis test?
 
This is an transcoding test using Compressor and a 2018 Mac mini, i5, 256GB, 8GB. I wanted to add a comparison with a late 2014 iMac, but the Samsung video (below) is triggering a system process on the iMac that is hogging CPU.

Here the Mac mini results:

I used this Samsung promotional film at https://4kmedia.org/samsung-nature-uhd-4k-demo/

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I used Compressor to convert the video from 8 bit H264 to 8 bit H265. The file went from 637.5MB to 259.5MB. The conversion took the mini 05:16.
 
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Can you perform the test in Handbrake?

Hi,

This tests the relative speed of the mini and the iMac when transcoding a file from H264 to H265. Compressor and Handbrake can both do this, and I don't see what can be learned, from doing it in both applications, that is relevant.

Please understand that I am using two different computers to do this. Because I'm using a single Bluetooth keyboard and trackpad, each time I change over I'm turning off the computer that I just finished with, turning on the new one, re-pairing the keyboard and trackpad and closing any active applications other than Compressor, which I then have to set up for the test

I'm just not in a hurry to go through this exercise all over again unless there's a good reason.

I'll be editing post #34 with the iMac results shortly. Just waiting for the Samsung file to finish downloading on the iMac.

There are a lot of other tests that I want to do. That's it for today.
 
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Hi,

This tests the relative speed of the mini and the iMac when transcoding a file from H264 to H265. Compressor and Handbrake can both do this, and I don't see what can be learned, from doing it in both applications, that is relevant.

Please understand that I am using two different computers to do this. Because I'm using a single Bluetooth keyboard and trackpad, each time I change over I'm turning off the computer that I just finished with, turning on the new one, and re-pairing the keyboard and trackpad. I'm just not in a hurry to go through this exercise all over again unless there's a good reason.

I'll be editing post #34 with the iMac results shortly. Just waiting for the Samsung file to finish downloading on the iMac.

There are a lot of other tests that I want to do. That's it for today.
I guess I misunderstood you when you wrote:

"I have both Handbrake and Compressor. Which do you want to use, what video and what transcoding?"
 
I guess I misunderstood you when you wrote:

"I have both Handbrake and Compressor. Which do you want to use, what video and what transcoding?"

You had no specific test to run and I need to get on with it with tests that have real world relevance.

I do not believe that doing this all over again with Handbrake tells us anything useful.

Sorry if what I'm doing isn't good enough for you.
 
You had no specific test to run and I need to get on with it with tests that have real world relevance.

I do not believe that doing this all over again with Handbrake tells us anything useful.

Sorry if what I'm doing isn't good enough for you.
You used the very test file I suggested. As for what relevance it would have it would allow a comparison to other systems (I do not have compressor).

If you're not interested that's fine. I just ask that in the future if you're going to ignore my suggestion that you not have bothered to respond asking me for one.
 
You used the very test file I suggested. As for what relevance it would have it would allow a comparison to other systems (I do not have compressor).

If you're not interested that's fine. I just ask that in the future if you're going to ignore my suggestion that you not have bothered to respond asking me for one.

As a result of this exchange with you, not only am I not interested, I am finished with this thread. I'm not going to take the time to post test results, only to be harassed over it.
 
As a result of this exchange with you, not only am I not interested, I am finished with this thread. I'm not going to take the time to post test results, only to be harassed over it.

So uhh, because of that one guy while the rest of us were appreciating the testing?
 
As a result of this exchange with you, not only am I not interested, I am finished with this thread. I'm not going to take the time to post test results, only to be harassed over it.
That is unfortunate. I was on the fence about the i7 vs i5... I really only wanted to spend $1100 and was torn between the i5/8GB/256GB config or the i7/8GB/128GB version. Since following this thread, I think the i5 model will be enough for my needs. Would have liked to see more testing as not only is it informative, but also fun to see how these new machines perform. For instance, it was very exciting to see that the i5 actually boosted up to 4.3ghz when, according to Apple, was only supposed to hit 4.1. Great stuff there.

Either way, thank you F-Train, for providing us with this information. It was very helpful in my decision making process.
 
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As a result of this exchange with you, not only am I not interested, I am finished with this thread. I'm not going to take the time to post test results, only to be harassed over it.
That's fine with me. You weren't going to do the test I was interested in so no skin off my nose.

I'm just puzzled as to why you asked what test I would like you to perform only to ignore it.
 
I agree I would like to see more tests. I am trying to decide if the i7 is worth the cost. Lightroom is the most taxing thing I am likely to do, but I also want something that will last me over 5 years and would pair well with an eGPU down the line.
 
With a little advice, I've figured out how to handle the noise.

If you are interested in the Blackmagic score, have a look at this post. The i5/256GB/8GB is almost identical to the i7/1TB/32GB on read, but apparently much, much slower on write: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ed-to-2018-macbook-pro.2154045/#post-26791827

I've run Blackmagic again, with no change. I don't know if the difference in disk size, by itself, can explain this, and I'm certainly not an expert on the ins and outs of how the Blackmagic test works. I'm assuming that @inmnbob also used a 5GB stress.

If this really does come down to disk size, I wonder what the practical difference is in use.
 
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With a little advice, I've figured out how to handle the noise.

If you are interested in the Blackmagic score, have a look at this post. The i5/256GB/8GB is almost identical to the i7/1TB/32GB on read, but apparently much slower on write: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ed-to-2018-macbook-pro.2154045/#post-26791827

I've run Blackmagic again, with no change. I don't know if the difference in disk size, by itself, can explain this, and I'm certainly not an expert on the ins and outs of how the Blackmagic test works. I'm assuming that @inmnbob also used a 5GB stress.


Yes this is a case where Size does matter. This is the same case for the last few years going back to the late 2015 iMac. 1TB is the test data reported on Apples website.
 
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