Mac Mini i7 2.6Ghz Temps

Discussion in 'Mac mini' started by eyepea, Mar 23, 2013.

  1. eyepea macrumors member

    Jul 20, 2012
    I have the current 2012 Mac Mini i7 2.6Ghz which has the Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3720QM CPU.

    Intel says the operating limit is 105'c.

    In looking into that temperature 'as being safe' I came across the following page on the 3720QM:

    Interesting stuff.

    An Intel support (I believe he is Intel?) person says:


    The TCase for this processor is 105 degrees Celsius.
    The TCase is a number established by Intel® as a point of reference in order to understand what could be expected as per normal processor temperature.

    Anything from the Tcase and below will be the expected temperature of the processor in normal use, anything that doesn’t stress out the processor (watching movies, burning CDs, browsing the internet, creating documents, etc.) When the processor is stressed out meaning that you are running heavy processor applications that take control of the CPU or uses it at 100% the temperature will go beyond the Tcase. It can perfectly reach 115 to 120 degrees and the processor will still be OK. The cooling fan is in charge to keep that temperature there.

    If the processor temperature reaches 130 degrees or more it will send a signal to the motherboard to shut down to prevent mayor damages and most likely it won’t be possible to turn the computer back in until it cools down.

    The normal processor temperature will depend on the chassis type, the hardware involved and the location of the computer, and it usually is lower than the Tcase.

    So the temperatures that you are reporting are OK, also I see that you are reading the cores temperature, you actually need to check the CPU temperature, and not the cores temperature.
    In order to do so, please check with the laptop manufacturer to see if they have thermal monitoring software that can monitor the CPU temperature instead of the cores temperature.


    Basically, what that means is that you can cook a full dinner for four on the 3720QM CPU...

    No really, My question in his comments is what App measures the 'CPU Temp' and not 'CPU Core' that he is referring to?

    I have iStat Menus and it measures 'CPU Die' and 'CPU Proximity'.

    I would like to know this as I push my MM a lot at 100% CPU capacity and rely on iStat Menus to tell me my CPU Temp. I Have used 'CPU Die' as the temp in my menu bar. That sounds like 'Core' to me?

    Any thoughts on the Intel persons comments and what measurement he is talking about and how to measure it?

  2. benwiggy macrumors 68020

    Jun 15, 2012
    To summarize:

    Your CPU can handle the temperatures that it normally operates at.
    Fans will turn on and help cool it.
    If it gets to a temperature that is damaging, it will turn itself off.

    Therefore: you don't need to sit watching fan temperatures all day with iStat.
  3. paulrbeers macrumors 68040

    Dec 17, 2009
    And the OP doesn't need to start multiple threads about temps like the OP seems to be doing....

  4. philipma1957 macrumors 603


    Apr 13, 2010
    Howell, New Jersey
    To the op if you want to run your mini at 100C for 10 hours each day of the week I have a simple suggestion buy applecare. your mini will have 3 years not 1 year of coverage.

    I have done a lot of testing with minis and heat. We have had a lot of discussion on this site about killing off your mini due to long hard use of it at high heat. Buying the extended plan is the easiest way to not worry about burning up the mini.
  5. eyepea thread starter macrumors member

    Jul 20, 2012
    Which one other than this one did I start?
  6. paulrbeers macrumors 68040

    Dec 17, 2009
  7. eyepea thread starter macrumors member

    Jul 20, 2012
    They are two completely different questions though? They're not multiple on the same question? Are you suggesting because I used the word 'temp' twice they are the same (and multiple?)?

    Anyway, I think you are being a little silly.

    I would prefer not to respond to your post but I do need to clarify your comments.

    In this later thread I am just wondering if anyone can tell me what the Intel tech is referring to by 'CPU Temp' and not 'CPU Core Temp' and weather anyone knows what OSX App measures what he is talking about (or if one exists).

    Just in case you missed it in my post I asked the following question:

    My question in his comments is what App measures the 'CPU Temp' and not 'CPU Core' that he is referring to?

    See also:

    Any thoughts on the Intel persons comments and what measurement he is talking about and how to measure it?

    If anyone knows that then please let me know.


  8. paulrbeers macrumors 68040

    Dec 17, 2009
    And my question to you is the same as your other thread: Who cares? Why do you care? In the end, if the processor registers 105 degrees it will shut down. No one sees even 105 in their Mini's. Basically while yes your questions are "technically different", in the end they are both about worrying about nothing. Worrying about temps because you read some random post or you see some high temps and worry even though in the end none of this matters. If Apple does build a computer that can't handle the temps, then everyone will sue them and you will get a free computer. Trust me, they know what they are doing. What does it matter what number you get on iStat or TempMonitor, or whatever app you use. In the end YOU ARE WORRYING ABOUT NOTHING.

    So again, you've already made a big deal out of temps and we all told you not to worry about it. Instead, you go and read up on some random post on the internet and now come back here continuing to worry about temps by making ANOTHER thread where you ask about temps of your computer.

    Seriously, use your Mini and stop worrying about the temperatures. Trust me, if a lawsuit is started you will know all about it just like all the iPod Nano 1st Gen owners did. Move on. Go outside, get a hobby, move out of yor parents basement, do something with your life other than worry about whether temperatures are being measured right and/or the temps are too high in a computer designed by an army of engineers that probably know a LOT more about this stuff than you or I. Which is why we buy them rather than build them from the ground up ourselves.
  9. Aries326 macrumors 6502

    Dec 28, 2007
    Does OP have fibromyalgia or is a hypochondriac?


    On a serious note, I used to be the same way when I built my own computers. I would monitor the temps to make sure it wasn't going to overheat and destroy itself when I would overclock the CPUs.

    I've got a MacMini. It runs like a dream. The only time it is ever running full blast is when I am encoding movies from one format to the other. Even then, it doesn't come close to 105 C. Don't worry about the temps unless you've got your Mini in a tightly enclosed area. Even then, the mini will shut itself off as other users have pointed out. You may decrease the lifespan a bit if you always ran your mini on the hot side. But who cares? You're going to end up upgrading in a few years anyway, much earlier than the lifespan of the processor or the entire MacMini itself.
  10. opinio macrumors 65816

    Mar 23, 2013
    Brutal brutal stuff?

    I thought the OP's question was unprovoking and fairly simple?

    You don't get banned for this style of reply on this forum?

    Medical conditions and mommy's boy comments?

    I have only been here a week and love the forum for quality info but the replies in this thread are strange???
  11. paulrbeers macrumors 68040

    Dec 17, 2009
    Those that post virtually the same thread multiple times will be called out. The OP did this and tried to state he was not. Technically posting the same thread twice is against the rules as well. Further the OP could have just searched and answered his question as well which may or may not be a forum rule but it is definitely frowned upon because it wastes people's time as well as cluttering the forum up with unnecessary threads. Maybe the barbs throw at the OP were unnecessary by so were his threads.

    /off soap box
  12. Kabeyun, Apr 6, 2013
    Last edited: Apr 6, 2013

    Kabeyun macrumors 68000


    Mar 27, 2004
    Eastern USA
    The other thread is a survey question (What temps do you get?). This thread asks about safety. People aren't born knowing this stuff. As to searching, Googling these questions only gets you so far, and THIS is where the experts often help. If you think it was cross posting, that's your opinion. It's impressive that his decision not to bundle these two different-but-related questions into a single post so deeply offended you that you had to get so deeply personal.

    I find it delicious that you are yammering on about what's frowned upon after telling the guy to move out of his mother's basement. Isn't being hostile and inflammatory also frowned upon?
  13. paulrbeers macrumors 68040

    Dec 17, 2009
    Did I not state in my second post that the insults were probably unnecessary? What more do you want. Further as I previously stayed, the end result of both threads was the same is it not? In both cases the OP is spending time worrying about temps. One was what are the normal temps (which a simple search on these forums so unnecessary) and the second is the OP is asking about a way to specifically watch the temps of his processor. To which I say "who cares" just like his other thead. We told him in the other thread to not worry about it. Use your computer and quit worrying about temps. Then this thread was created since apparently he wouldn't listen to reason and continued to worry about temps. While the theads are different THE END RESULT is the same. If you create multiple threads for the same reason but just word it different ISN'T IT THE SAME?!?
  14. opinio macrumors 65816

    Mar 23, 2013
    being involved in psychology for work, i found this thread very interesting and had a read of his/her other thread. disappointingly, it reminds me of my work with schoolyard bullies. as i am new to the forum, i won't say anything else other than ditto kabeyun.

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