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ganja24

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Where can I find a Mac Mini Late 2012, prefer i7, 2.6, 16gb. I have a ssd that I can use. I want to replace my late 2014 with late 2012.
 

Wildhope

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Not sure if this answers your question I got mine on eBay from someone who only sells Macs so it was fairly reasonable.
 

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Celerondon

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Those little beasts loaded Mountain Lion in well under 20 seconds. As I recall, my Fusion Drive (FD) equipped 2.3 i7 averaged between 12-14 seconds when booting the original operating system. It takes a bit longer on the newer OS X versions. :apple:

That OEM SSD has got to be at least as fast as my OEM FD. :oops: (In truth it has to be somewhat faster, doesn't it?)
 

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How may seconds does it boot up in? Can you make a short video?

Just timed it. Took 14 secords from the time I pushed the button until the desktop was showing. I have it set to automatically log me in and I am still running 10.8.5 (an advantage of the 2012 model) for compatibility with my expensive legacy software. You want a video of a computer booting? Sorry… ;)
[doublepost=1493641766][/doublepost]Here is the original internal Apple sm256e SSD

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I setup another 2012 Mini (the base dual 2.5 ghz model, not a quad) with a 500gb Samsung T3 USB 3.0 external SSD. Here is what it clocks at. That machine takes 30 seconds to boot into Sierra from the external drive.

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Wildhope

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Ok, what is a good price range for those nowadays?
Well again sorry if this is unnecessary information but I bought an 2012 i5 with a Samsung pro sad and 2 tb hard drive for $800 but I would imagine the i7 server version would be the same price maybe with just a SSD.
 

Mcdevidr

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Jeez the prices on these things are still insane. I remember buying an i7 model back in 2014 for about $550 off Craigslist. Should have bought several and kept them in a closet unused.
 
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Celerondon

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Yes unlike the 2014 minis, all 2012 i7 chips are Quads! That 2014 i7 is a dual core CPU.

(And of course, all 2012 quad core mini chips are i7s.)
 
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ganja24

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Took 48sec to boot my Mac mini late 2014 with external USB ssd connected
 

Celerondon

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Took 48sec to boot my Mac mini late 2014 with external USB ssd connected
Which 2014 Mac mini do you have ganja24? How much memory does it have?

14 seconds from chime to log in screen on my 2012 i5 w/ssd.
That 14 second boot time is for an internally mounted SSD, correct BenTrovato?

Say ganja24, you may want to check your system and SSD housing before you dump that 2014 mini for a 2012 mini. To get maximum performance your SSD housing must be at least USB 3.0 with UASP. (USB Attached SCSI Protocol) A 2012 i7 will excel at running multi-core capable software but normally a 2012 is no faster than a 2014. :apple:
 

ganja24

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I have Mac mini Late 2014, 1.4Ghz, 4gb ram, i5 the basic model. Attached is a Samsung 850 SSD 120GB via Inateck external case with USB UASP connection. running latest MacOS Sierra took 48sec to see desktop once I hit the power button.
 

Celerondon

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Okay.
That is a 4Gb 1.4GHz base model with an external SSD. Your external case seems fine. I wonder what sort of bootstrap times others experience with similar setups?
 

AZhappyjack

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I have Mac mini Late 2014, 1.4Ghz, 4gb ram, i5 the basic model. Attached is a Samsung 850 SSD 120GB via Inateck external case with USB UASP connection. running latest MacOS Sierra took 48sec to see desktop once I hit the power button.

Okay.
That is a 4Gb 1.4GHz base model with an external SSD. Your external case seems fine. I wonder what sort of bootstrap times others experience with similar setups?

I have a 2014 Mini (3 GHz i7 with 16GB RAM and a 2TB Fusion drive... With the latest production release of macOS Sierra (10.12.4), I go from powered off to login screen in 15.13 seconds... there are no quad core Minis post-2012 model... but this one performs well... I use it for Final Cut Pro X editing of 1080p and a few 4K video projects... no reservations about this one at all.

I timed it from pressing the power button to seeing the login screen... the chime was about .5 seconds after pressing the power (or so)...
 
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dogslobber

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Jeez the prices on these things are still insane. I remember buying an i7 model back in 2014 for about $550 off Craigslist. Should have bought several and kept them in a closet unused.

I bought one off apple refurb store and sold it on eBay a few years ago for 200$ profit. I used it to buy the dual core for $419 and still use that as my main desktop, albeit upgraded to 16gb and 240tb SSD. An amazing machine!
 

BenTrovato

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Which 2014 Mac mini do you have ganja24? How much memory does it have?


That 14 second boot time is for an internally mounted SSD, correct BenTrovato?

Say ganja24, you may want to check your system and SSD housing before you dump that 2014 mini for a 2012 mini. To get maximum performance your SSD housing must be at least USB 3.0 with UASP. (USB Attached SCSI Protocol) A 2012 i7 will excel at running multi-core capable software but normally a 2012 is no faster than a 2014. :apple:

Correct. Boot drive is ssd.. I also have a 7200 drive in there as well. On Sierra.
 

ganja24

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Will it speed up the boot time from 48sec if I move the SSD internally in the 2014 base model Mac Mini?
 
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