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Maybe there is still hope:

MacWorld: Mac mini could have Nvidia future?

Nvidia says, the motherboard is being offered in a “much smaller footprint than competing chipsets makes it ideal for small form factor and ultra-slim media center PCs.”

Companies Nvidia has announced that are manufacturing the motherboard include ASUS and Foxconn, two frequent manufacturing partners of Apple’s.

These last two items may provide some clues to the future of the long lamented Mac mini, which, according to one report, may be on its way out – at least in its current form.
 
I doubt that Apple would source motherboards from Nvidia. Anyway, nobody is denying that Apple can deliver a new mini, in one form or another. The question is whether they will. I think it's likely that Apple has concluded there isn't sufficient profit margin for that kind of product.

nVidia don't make motherboards or graphics boards just the chipset or GPU to go on them.

Apple already source from nVidia - did you miss the unibody MacBook/MacBook Pro launch the other week?
 
Apple makes their money by keeping a simplified product line and keeping it around for a long time. That's how they get 30% of the money with only 10% of the computers. This also allows them to spend a lot of engineering time to come up with stuff like the Unibody enclosure.
Minimal product line worked fine a decade ago, but now it seems that Apple is behaving as greedy and monopolistic as microsoft has.
And that will lead to same fate.
In the short term they can make that 30%, but eventually loose it, when customers grow tired to pay double price for reduced features.
Apple is now selling ten times than decade ago, so if they would settle for 25%, they could double their product line and keep all their customers happy for now and in the future.
That way they could keep that 25% or grow it in the long run.
 
As for Apple shifting to all glass displays for ecological reasons, it is a sales pitch and matte goes out the window as a result. Get a plastic cover with matte and be un-ecological. Apple refuses to breach their ecological virginity to offer a widely customer demanded feature.
This is the funniest part; there is of course a plastic display panel behind the glass, so how does it get greener when you add glass in front of it?
Useless bulk to recycle, when macbooks could be lighter and non-glaring without it. Surely the ingenius unibody would be strong enough without glass?
 
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As for Apple shifting to all glass displays for ecological reasons, it is a sales pitch and matte goes out the window as a result. Get a plastic cover with matte and be un-ecological. Apple refuses to breach their ecological virginity to offer a widely customer demanded feature.

You can easily etch glass to have a matte finish that doesn't hurt resolution a bit. Check out the glass in any picture frame at Wal-mart.

Apple will get around to it, eventually. They want to drive everyone crazy with reflections first, so they'll be forced to "upgrade" to more sensible matte finishes later.

Why sell a product once when you can make double by selling it twice?

Apple didn't always think this way; they used to rely on true innovation and taking pride in being cutting edge.

No longer.

:apple:
 
Sorry, I misspoke. It's a MB design, not the MB itself. It doesn't change the point though: it seems pretty clear that Apple doesn't see sufficient profit margin in the sub-$1000 market.

Fair enough :D

Suspect you are correct. Looks like a return to the (conceited) high right strategy that got Apple into trouble in the early 90s. With the current economic problems it's verging on suicidal.

I'd be at the front of the queue for a Mini of similar spec to the Unibody MacBook. My existing MBP is fine for on the road stuff, but fancy something a bit quicker for use on a desk with my existing monitor, keyb and mouse.
 
Minimal product line worked fine a decade ago, but now it seems that Apple is behaving as greedy and monopolistic as microsoft has.
And that will lead to same fate.
In the short term they can make that 30%, but eventually loose it, when customers grow tired to pay double price for reduced features.
Apple is now selling ten times than decade ago, so if they would settle for 25%, they could double their product line and keep all their customers happy for now and in the future.
That way they could keep that 25% or grow it in the long run.
Right I'm sure you know more than the folks at Apple who have 25 billion in the bank. :rolleyes:
 
I just think it's a darn shame. I started my whole Mac experience a few years back when someone gave me a tangerine Ibook, they just knew nothing about Mac's and didn't want to, and at the time neither did I. So you know, I did give the guy a case of beer in trade. Any ways, after self teaching myself about Mac's, and this was not hard to do, I bought a Mini for work. It's connected to a KVM, and I use it to test applications that I work with to be sure they run on a Mac and on a PC.

I liked the Mini so much, I bought another one for home. It's also hooked up to a KVM, and when I'm in the mood to use the Mac, I do, and other times I use the PC.

Bottom line, what a great little machine, it was priced right for me, its a shame Apple may discontinue it and I'm sure for others it is/was a great way to get involved with Mac's. And that's all I have to say about that.
 
The iMac can't be environment friendly since they can't be reused. A screen have the lifetime of three or two computers. A put a hole screen in the garbage only because the cpu are a little slow can never be environment friendly. Many have their machines upp and running 7x24 so it's not enviroment friendly not be able to turn off the screen.
Yep, I worked in a place couple of years ago, where we had a dozen of iMacs, which I used for qmaster cluster for video compression. Displays were on 24-7. Not very green. First time I saw image was burned to lcd display, like they were used to do with crt's...
 
The Mini plus Plex makes for a super-easy living room media center. The mini handles 720p playback no problem (although it tends to choke on 1080p).
Yep, mini is great for HTPC. It only lacks blu-ray, hdcp, 1080p playback & esata. Sadly, you can build windows machine with those with price of mini, but the OS sucks...
 
if it hasnt been selling too well its because apple havent been listening to their customers, its expensive and way outdated. Dont blame the concept, its sound it just needs the latest stuff in it, its a few years behind and the price range is at a level as if its all new stuff.

Perhaps if apple bothered to give it a little more TLC, and put some more reasonable specs in there and reduced the price a little people might consider it as a serious option.
 
Fair enough :D

Suspect you are correct. Looks like a return to the (conceited) high right strategy that got Apple into trouble in the early 90s. With the current economic problems it's verging on suicidal.

Pricepoints were not really the problem. They had entry level systems back then, but try to spot them if you are not familiar with their naming at the time.

This.....
Apple-history.com said:
1996
Network Server 500/700
Workgroup Server 7250
Workgroup Server 8550
Power Macintosh 5260 LC
Power Macintosh 5400 LC
Power Macintosh 7600
Power Macintosh 8200
Power Macintosh 6400
PowerBook 1400c/cs
Power Macintosh 4400
Power Macintosh 7220
Power Macintosh 6300/120

1997
Power Macintosh 5500
Power Macintosh 6500
Power Macintosh 7300
Power Macintosh 8600
Power Macintosh 9600
PowerBook 3400
Workgroup Server 7350
Workgroup Server 9650
20th Anniversary Macintosh
PowerBook 2400
Power Macintosh G3
PowerBook G3

....Was the problem.

Too many models that overlapped each other with confusing names, and confusing marketing directed at an increasingly less interested marketshare.

I miss some of the products of that era (Newton and eMate), but it was still a tough time for Apple as they were spread too thin.

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Pricepoints were not really the problem. They had entry level systems back then, but try to spot them if you are not familiar with their naming at the time.

This.....


....Was the problem.

Too many models that overlapped each other with confusing names, and confusing marketing directed at an increasingly less interested marketshare.

I miss some of the products of that era (Newton and eMate), but it was still a tough time for Apple as they were spread too thin.
i don't think anybody in this thread is expecting apple to go the '90s route again today. i hope we can agree on the simple fact that once mini is gone (likely), there won't be an entry level, inconspicuous macintosh on the desktop. there's quite a difference between that scenario and what you posted above.
 
i don't think anybody in this thread is expecting apple to go the '90s route again today. i hope we can agree on the simple fact that once mini is gone (likely), there won't be an entry level, inconspicuous macintosh on the desktop. there's quite a difference between that scenario and what you posted above.

while what you are saying is correct, the person he quoted claimed that this sounded an awful lot like the strategy in the 90's, which he just disproved.
 
i don't think anybody in this thread is expecting apple to go the '90s route again today. i hope we can agree on the simple fact that once mini is gone (likely), there won't be an entry level, inconspicuous macintosh on the desktop. there's quite a difference between that scenario and what you posted above.
How many times has the Mini been declared dead but yet it's still here.
 
while what you are saying is correct, the person he quoted claimed that this sounded an awful lot like the strategy in the 90's, which he just disproved.
Apple couldn't be any farer of that 90' situation.
They have now basically two product lines; one with notebook chipsets and the other with workstation/server chipsets.
Mini/macbook(pro)/iMac are just different generations of notebook chipset.
Now that Apple sells millions of them, it would be very easy to keep these 3 lines of products that use same chipsets.
So, unibody mini?
 
Refurbs are up again, for the first time in a long time. Looks like they're really trying to clear out old stock. Something new is coming...I can feel it.
 
I think with the new MacBook models out, they will use this design in the mini. I suspect the new mini won't have firewire.
 
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