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I'll buy a pair IF:

1) They have Blu-Ray
2) They have firewire
3) They have a 3.5" internal HD
4) They have a video card capable of outputting a decent 1080p signal.
5) An inexpensive and easy means of outputting to HDMI and Component exists.

Any one of those missing, and no dice.

haha ALL of those will be missing. You have unrealistic expectations sir.
 
Well, now I'm not sure. If it only needed passthrough, then so long as you have a receiver capable of decoding the digital signal it should work. Perhaps these limitations have to do with DHCP? If so, then physical media could have issues, but ripped (i.e., de-HDCP'd) media would not. I suspect we'll have to wait and see. I don't have a True-HD/DTS-HD receiver, otherwise I could test it as soon as the new Mini was available.

I've got a capable receiver and remove the protection on my media. I'm still very sceptical I can get the output I want from a new mini, especially after a little reading. The physical specs say yeah, the technical specs say no, and the assumptions as always, disagree :)
An old bit of coax has the bandwidth for all this, doesn't mean I can just plug it in and it'll work - a load of genius, competing companies have to mess about with multiple standards with all their own limitations.
I suggest you upgrade your amp and let me know, I'm not buying one till I'm sure!
 
I expect they'll yank firewire and raise the price for no reason.
Redesigned with NVIDIA chipsets: $699/$899
Old $599 model: $499

Might be what will happen.

Maybe they will surprise everyone and make the mini a truly all-in-one desktop/storage device/apple TV/Time Capsule/Home Theatre Server/Alarm Clock/Stereo/Garage Band Door Opener/Portable CD Player/and large screen iPod/iPhone.

:)
iLife '09!!!! :D
 
This isn't true.

How can you even say that and not burst out laughing?
The first thing I did after buying my mini was add an external Fw disk (320 GB, 7200 rpm, 16 MB) because the internal drive bogged down the entire freaking system! I just added a an internal 2.5 drive with the same specs as the external drive (now used as Time Machine drive), and the whole thing is screaming (well, in comparison to stock anyway).

Even now, an internal 5400/8 at 1.5 gbps SATA on the current Mini is faster than FW400/7200/32 for most tasks (yes, I've benchmarked it).

Sorry, that's nonsense.

The only time the FW drive wins is when its cache is the advantage.

Like, every time you have more programs open than just a single TextEdit instance.
 
I don't care about it being black, white, aluminium or a mixture of those. What I want is Blu! And Firewire would be nice, though would be slightly less of a deal breaker than on a main computer or laptop for me (and I say that as a full-on outraged Firewire supporter). But I want Blu-ray or I'm not interested really.

Well, except the 1080p part, which the current Mini already does.

Er... no it doesn't.

Really? Someone should tell Apple then:

"DVI video output to support digital resolutions up to 1920 by 1200 pixels;"
- http://www.apple.com/macmini/specs.html

Wrong.

Optical discs are irrelevant in terms of being home theater devices.

I think that is utter nonsense. I have hundreds of DVDs and scores of Blu-rays, where do I stick them (careful, be nice!)?
 
New mini

I was extremely happy to get back to Apples in general. The price break on the Intel based mini let me convert, and this is after years of building/using PCs.

But, the cost of an Imac with the specs to justify the leap is out of my range.

I think more than a few converts like me are on the bubble... Love these systems and Leopard, love Parallels for existing Office installs for work and running legacy apps. Many of us CAN afford to buy more minis and stick with this superior OS and app suite if the new mini has decent specs and supports dual external monitors. Yes, I already use the USB/DVI Tritton to support an external monitor on the mini, but the built-in solutions are faster.

I'd replace all the kids systems over time, and that's it for PCs. Nir-Frickin'-Vana.

If not, I'm stuck between two worlds until this mini I love bites the dust, then I have to reluctantly shuffle back off to perdition ( WinTel ).

And Apple should know there's quite a few of us out here that are evaluating business apps on the mac mini - Lightspeed Point of Sale is a good example. A conversion for our business would represent a four store and warehouse conversion package, which means at least four minis and a server.

Sure, not a huge sale, but multiply our little shop by hundreds of little shops that were previously priced out of the Apple markets, and you make millions, and improve the computing environment overall.

Here's hopin'.
 

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I think that is utter nonsense. I have hundreds of DVDs and scores of Blu-rays, where do I stick them (careful, be nice!)?

On your open source storage solution, streaming round the house and out your router of course?! :)


Doesn't this just mean that DVI supports that resolution? that doesn't mean the video card does.

It's pretty crazy your forced to use commercial apps to get the required output on some hardware combinations in osx, but it's still feasible with/without and is no problem on other os'
 
Wrong.

Optical discs are irrelevant in terms of being home theater devices.

I agree.

I've had my PS3 for a few years now and my Apple TV for 8 months and I have to say that I have actually viewed more HD content through my Apple TV than through Blu-Ray. I only own 3 Blu-Ray discs.

The only thing that stops me from dropping Blu-Ray is that movie purchases are only SD quality. I don't understand why we can have SD vs HD rental options, but no option to buy the HD version of a movie.

Can anyone enlighten me on that one?
 
How can you even say that and not burst out laughing?
The first thing I did after buying my mini was add an external Fw disk (320 GB, 7200 rpm, 16 MB) because the internal drive bogged down the entire freaking system! I just added a an internal 2.5 drive with the same specs as the external drive (now used as Time Machine drive), and the whole thing is screaming (well, in comparison to stock anyway).



Sorry, that's nonsense.



True, it's much faster running off a decent FireWire external HD, the stock internal is rubbish in comparison not to mention the accompanying capacity issues.
 
Ion?

Is it possible that the new Mini is based on the Ion platform? Basically Intel + 9400M + very small form factor. It seems perfect for the Mini in terms of a perfect fit, hardware and space wise.

This would turn me off for sure if it was the case, and I would then be leaning towards hoping for an iMac revamp at Macworld. In my opinion, it would be more of a side-grade than an upgrade, because while it would open performance up for certain tasks, it would inhibit longevity. Atom processors in and of themselves are weak.

Here is an article from AT that even has pics of the two stacked together. Eerie.

http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3478&p=2
 
True, it's much faster running off a decent FireWire external HD, the stock internal is rubbish in comparison not to mention the accompanying capacity issues.

That's basically what he said? The mini is limited to a slow laptop drive. Put any same drive in a FW enclosure and you're going to suffer slight latency and bandwith limitations (certainly with fw400) compared to the same drive on an internal/external sata port.
You can't really find any modern computer without a chipset full of sata connections, I doubt apple will, but I think it would be silly not to give the mini a nice selection of internal and external ports. A nice proprietary stacking port and enclosure system would do well for the 'all in one' rumours people were talking about, and give the uninformed fans a reason to shout "innovation!"
 
Mac Mini is DOA

...as is the Apple TV until they combine the two, provide *true* HD content, and make the HD content rentable and purchasable.

Seriously, wtf are they WAITING for?!

my $.02.

jm

p.s. To those that start screaming about Mac Mini being "my perfect little web server", et cetera...and therefore not DOA, i'm not denying that the Mac Mini has SOME functionality. Apple should strip this thing down to the smallest possible form factor that will still run OS X with a video card and some kind of hard drive and call it "Mac Server Mini" and give the rest of us what we want (see above).
 
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