Just recently, I was surfing around online, and I came across the idea of a demoscene. The concept really struck a chord in me, especially the 64k/4k intros. I've seen a lot of genius coding, but that has got to be some of the best (the good ones at least ). Anyway, I looked around to see if there were any os x native intros. However, every single one I found was a port, except for frmactals. After fooling around a bit in xcode, I found what I think is the main reason why: Macs just aren't good at making small apps. Hello World was 12kb, and the simplest SDL app was 1.1MB, after being thinned down a bit. It seems that PPC apps are a lot smaller than Intel, cause I managed 508kb with that arcitecture. Anyways, to my main question. How do I make a small intro on a mac without assembly? Seems impossible to me. Oh, well. I'm getting windows in a few days anyway.