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Mac OS 10.2.3 Released

First problem with update

Using the ti theme will cause the buttons to disappear on the iApps.
 

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So, I am digging and digging. Other than the buttons changing in a couple apps, what the heck took 50MB when I d/led this update? I read the KBase doc, but I don't see all those updates adding up to such a huge install. I'm not sure if I see some performance improvements all around (loading apps, windows, etc) or if that is my imagination.

Anyone have a better idea what we installed?

Dan
 
Originally posted by alset
So, I am digging and digging. Other than the buttons changing in a couple apps, what the heck took 50MB when I d/led this update? I read the KBase doc, but I don't see all those updates adding up to such a huge install. I'm not sure if I see some performance improvements all around (loading apps, windows, etc) or if that is my imagination.

Anyone have a better idea what we installed?

Dan
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* US English spellings are no longer interpreted as correctly spelled when using the built-in British English Dictionary. HOORAY!!! :D
 
Re: First problem with update

Originally posted by ryme4reson
Using the ti theme will cause the buttons to disappear on the iApps.
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Well, good, I'm glad I'm not the only one who's having this problem. Guess we'll just have to wait for an update to the themes.
 
Ti 1 GHz benches

Results 93.60
System Info
Xbench Version 1.0b2
System Version 10.2.2
Physical RAM 1024 MB
Processor PowerPC,G4@0 [1000 MHz]
CPU Test 121.92
GCD Recursion 105.00 4.10 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 131.47 113.76 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 136.80 706.13 Mflop/sec
Floating Point Library 114.40 5.14 Mops/sec
Thread Test 70.84
Computation 63.95 515.21 Kops/sec, 4 threads
Memory Contention 81.37 257.38 MB/sec, 2 threads
Lock Contention 67.20 843.54 Klocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 113.13
System 122.21
Allocate 120.55 63.42 Kalloc/sec
Fill 184.82 1059.82 MB/sec
Copy 61.25 367.51 MB/sec
Stream 104.06
Copy 103.36 413.43 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 104.21 416.85 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 106.49 425.95 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 102.17 408.70 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 102.47
Line 122.98 3.13 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 68.80 4.84 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 94.77 2.18 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 114.32 1.24 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 111.48 1.88 Kchars/sec
User Interface Test 106.69
Elements 106.69 34.14 refresh/sec
Disk Test 46.56
Sequential 42.51
Uncached Sequential Write 42.28 18.73 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Sequential Read 42.74 18.46 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 50.60
Uncached Random Write 46.16 10.85 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Random Read 55.04 11.06 MB/sec [256K blocks]

with 10.2.3:
Results 101.34
System Info
Xbench Version 1.0b2
System Version 10.2.3
Physical RAM 1024 MB
Processor PowerPC,G4@0 [1000 MHz]
CPU Test 123.78
GCD Recursion 107.45 4.20 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 136.55 118.17 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 136.35 703.80 Mflop/sec
Floating Point Library 114.77 5.15 Mops/sec
Thread Test 76.01
Computation 64.01 515.67 Kops/sec, 4 threads
Memory Contention 96.55 305.39 MB/sec, 2 threads
Lock Contention 67.47 846.86 Klocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 113.51
System 132.50
Allocate 122.83 64.61 Kalloc/sec
Fill 216.95 1244.05 MB/sec
Copy 57.72 346.31 MB/sec
Stream 94.52
Copy 95.15 380.61 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 94.51 378.04 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 96.61 386.44 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 91.81 367.24 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 126.16
Line 128.39 3.27 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 122.15 8.59 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 136.75 3.15 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 122.72 1.33 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 120.82 2.03 Kchars/sec
User Interface Test 115.57
Elements 115.57 36.98 refresh/sec
Disk Test 53.04
Sequential 50.91
Uncached Sequential Write 49.74 22.04 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Sequential Read 52.09 22.50 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 55.16
Uncached Random Write 51.44 12.09 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Random Read 58.88 11.83 MB/sec [256K blocks]


god, it feels like those nVidia driver updates used to on my PC. serious graphics improvements. i like!
 
Chimera 0.7?

Forget 10.2.3...where is Chimera 0.7 already? ..

All things equal, even though this is a big update, all it seems to do is potentially remove your Red-yellow-green buttons...was this worth 51mb?
 
Originally posted by brogers
Is it just me or do the little red, orange and green jelly buttons look recessed or embedded in some of the Apple titanium Apps??? Look at Address Book, iSync, Back-up, iChat. Not sure why this would matter or if it is just my computer. Someone chime in if you have the same.
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Yup, the titanium apps do have a more 3-d effect for the jelly buttons.
 
dear god, you people are fastidious. i can understand if you have 56K, but god, you people are whining because you haven't found enough new stuff. i think incremental updates are to (a) address problems and (b) increase performance. this update, i can already tell you, has done the latter. i'm disappointed i still can't print to a printer on a windows box, but hey, life goes on. i just like updates. apple isn't sitting there doping and thinking, "hey, let's make this minor update 50 MB just to dick with those macrumor folks!" this is a real update, i promise you. the GL stuff alone is impressive to me, i'm a sucker for graphics perfomance increases, and mine went up a good 15%--that's noticeable, let me tell you.
 
I hope this really helps the graphics on my late 2001, 600mhz iBook. I think it has a rage 128, right? Although, with only 8mb of VRAM, I can't expect too much...

One thing that I've been having problems with that I'm not sure if the update will fix, is that when I un-plug my iBook when it's asleep, and then I wake it up, the mouse is sometimes erratic, the volume/brightness keys don't work, and if I go to the mouse control pane, the whole computer freezes. Other times, the mouse and keyboard won't respond at all, but I know the computer is running fine, because the animations are still going, the time is still changing, and everything else is normal. It's really annoying, seeing as that I am constantly on the go with my iBook, and I don't like to restart it every time I have to go somewhere...

BTW, I can avoid the problem by un-plugging the iBook while it's awake, but that's just not as fun :p
 
Originally posted by Hemingray
FYI, the KBase doc is now up:

Networking, iChat and Modem Enhancements

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* Improves results when transferring file names via iChat that begin with a ">" character.
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NOOOO!!!!! NO MORE >boot files!!!!!!!!!!!!! *cries* they were sooo much fun!

FOr those who don't know, before this update, if you sent a fellow iChat user a file called >boot, it kicked them off their AIM and rendezvous (i think) connections. The "waiting for other person to accept" thing didn't show up or anything. The other person sometimes didn't even see who did it. it only worked over AIM when i tried it, though it might've worked on rendezvous and it was just acting funny. This ruined everything. Boo apple! Boycott the update everyone! Keep the boot bug! Chant it! Keep the boot bug! Keep the boot bug! Keep the boot bug! Keep the boot bug!
 
I think whoever said the thing about missing shadows explaining the 'recessed buttons' in Cocoa Metal apps was right.. they look out of place both in terms of positioning and style, seems like someone at Apple just forgot to add the shadow masks. At least, I hope that's the case, because the new, inconsistent, buttons, do nothing for me. :)
 
10.2.3 fixes

Does anyone know if this fixes the 10.2.2 incompatibility with the Casio QV3000-EX digital camera? This worked until 10.2.2 (with which it doesn't work, notwithstanding the claim on the iPhoto compatiblity list on the Apple website) and has been a great cause of frustration for me. Thanks.
 
Problem discovered

I just upgraded to 10.2.3 and found a problem, small but annoying.
When the computer speaks to me (e.g., date or time), the voice always has a distinct electronic pop (like static) during the last word. This never happened before. Any ideas? Thanks.
 
Rage 128 performance

I gots me a Rage 128 AGP (not Pro) in my Rev A G4 450 Sawtooth.

Either I am hallucinating (a possibility), or graphics performance has been improved BIGTIME. For instance, scrolling up and down on this web page --- smooth like silk. I don't think it was like that an hour ago.

If only the HP slowdown issue that was introduced in 10.2.2 has been fixed... Any definitive comments from folks who clearly were experiencing the "issue?"
 
Originally posted by brogers
Is it just me or do the little red, orange and green jelly buttons look recessed or embedded in some of the Apple titanium Apps??? Look at Address Book, iSync, Back-up, iChat. Not sure why this would matter or if it is just my computer. Someone chime in if you have the same.
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yeah definitely, it's wierd & I don't really like it. It looks like it got punched in the nose or something
 
10.2.3, in addition to speeding everything up, has also remedied my HP Communications issue. I rebooted hours ago WITHOUT killing the HP program through Process Viewer, and my iMac has yet to slow down at all. Marvelous!!:D
 
IE 5.2.2 rendering pages faster to the screen?

Whoa, another _apparent_ improvement -- IE 5.2.2 seems to be drawing pages to my screen MUCH faster than it used to. Again, I have a Rage 128 AGP. But I mean, it's VERY fast now, compared to what I remember -- it always struck me that IE's slowness at loading pages seemed to be a bit of a graphics drawing bug -- also noticable when a page would load, then completely disappear until you do a select all. Hopefully that issue has been resolved as well.

Only with Macs do 3 year old machines get FASTER with each new OS release. Windows can rot in he11... :D
 
new buttons

I am thinking the apps without the recessed buttons are the ones due for an update in Jan. at the expo.
 
seems as if the buttons are now a part of the user interface when using the metal look.

from interface builder...
 

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well

Is your old Imac running 10? Maybe if your running 9 that's why it sounds better. I could be crazy to and call you crazy but i am not or am I...anyway I love the new sunken buttons they look kewl to me. But I know a few people who will be bother by this to no end... don't ask...
1 more thing :) did anyone notice the really small i chat scroll bar??? just wondering.
ps darn you shadowfax you beat me to it. I was gunna post my xbench scores before and after... o well the better LOTR fan won. :)
PowerBook G4 1ghz
 
Mac os 10 on ol' iMac 400 dv se.

sounds good even on streaming radio. Weirdness. I don't recall it sounding so clear. Will this computer ever die. I need an excuse to get another one and run folding @home on this.
 
Does iSync crash for anyone else?

I'm just going to try reinstalling, but it bounces twice and crashes.

OS 10.2.3, Snow iMac 600.
 
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