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Mac OS Monterey (12) no longer supported after the 12.7.6 update?

Mac OS Monterey (12) no longer supposed after the 12.7.6 update?

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Hey all, I was wondering if anyone here has seen any mention of a 12.7.7 release in beta, or RC? I'm wanting to make sure Monterey is done before switching to Linux, or OCLP, so I have the latest firmware updates for this iMac, 17,1.

In trying Sonoma on this iMac via OCLP, I find some of my older audio software such as "Amadeus Pro" work better under Monterey than Sonoma, and the alternatives I found such as Audacity, OcenAudio, etc are QT based, and since I also like KDE, have decided to just use them there. I've also decided on Linux because of enjoying playing old dos based games at times, or older windows games that are still 32 bit, and were never updated to run in a 64 bit environment, and then there is proton for steam that I find works quite well with the games i like.

So, Ideally i might do a dual boot system since I don't need the latest version of macOS for the few things I absolutely need macOS for these days.
 
MacinMan said:
Hey all, I was wondering if anyone here has seen any mention of a 12.7.7 release in beta, or RC?
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There isn't.
12.7.6 RC4 21H1317 is still available for download.
Meanwhile, there is already a beta for Ventura 13.7 22H121
 
MacinMan said:
Hey all, I was wondering if anyone here has seen any mention of a 12.7.7 release in beta, or RC? I'm wanting to make sure Monterey is done before switching to Linux, or OCLP,
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Why?
Monterey will get better after  ignores the OS- BIG TIME!
the internet will be hassle free with less pop-ups and pestering from web developers.
that red 1 will diminish from the system preferences icon
and
we can still use icloud and airplay!

Im opening some champagne when this "unsupport" day happens!
 
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MBAir2010 said:
Why?
Monterey will get better after  ignores the OS- BIG TIME!
the internet will be hassle free with less pop-ups and pestering from web developers.
that red 1 will diminish from the system preferences icon
and
we can still use icloud and airplay!

Im opening some champagne when this "unsupport" day happens!
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The only thing is, none of what you just said applies to my setup. I don't have a badge on system preferences, I don't deal with web popups in any high numbers. You never bothered to read my part about 32-bit support, at least your comment doesn't suggest you did. In fact, no one who responded to me gave me the answer I was looking for. I simply asked if there was a 12.7.7 RC, or beta so I would know to install it or not for potential EFI updates. I also explained why I was asking. and what my plans were, which people also overlooked.
 
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MacinMan said:
The only thing is, none of what you just said applies to my setup. I don't have a badge on system preferences, I don't deal with web popups in any high numbers. You never bothered to read my part about 32-bit support, at least your comment doesn't suggest you did. In fact, no one who responded to me gave me the answer I was looking for. I simply asked if there was a 12.7.7 RC, or beta so I would know to install it or not for potential EFI updates. I also explained why I was asking. and what my plans were, which people also overlooked.
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sorry, I forgot we can't as humans respond on our intuition and expressions online in 2024 anymore.
I was also thinking maybe more humans might read my reply and.....rejoice!

and bogdanw did have a perfect factual reply.
 
MBAir2010 said:
sorry, I forgot we can't as humans respond on our intuition and expressions online in 2024 anymore.
I was also thinking maybe more humans might read my reply and.....rejoice!

and bogdanw did have a perfect factual reply.
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My apologies, I just re-read the post mentioned. I missed the very first line the first time reading. Thank you.

As far as my other reply. I simply meant because I'm on a late 2015, 27" iMac, Monterey is the last official OS, so I won't have the red badge for updates unless I did Open core legacy Patcher. I do agree that once macOS gets into the security only updates phase, it tends to be more stable. Again I apologize for any miscommunications first time around. I had caught the first line of the first post, I never would have made the second post. I am considered legally blind and sometimes I miss words when reading, and if it's not a really long post, I don't always use Text to speech. I always use zoom though.

With that said, thanks for the replies, I have a better Idea of what I want to do now. By the way, Mojave is an option for 32-bit mac apps for me, but Linux is still better at this point for that becau;se of the age of Mojave and current stuff being dropped from support. Plus with wine / proton, it eliminates the need for a full windows VM, as what I want to do works without issues.
 
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MacinMan said:
My apologies, I just re-read the post mentioned. I missed the very first line the first time reading. Thank you.
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No problem I was a horse's posterior as well and was pompous while replying to you.

I really need some time off here since I do regret using  on everything I run.

anyways:

I just downloaded Sequoia Beta and that is great!
we can now use "new finder window" (sonoma and Ventura left out)
and the music sounds great, more clear and vibrant!
(Peter Gabriel IO)
I just launched the OS 15 minutes ago so I need time to really test this,
the amazing thing is that the beta os is on ssd drive and running to my MacBook Air m1 2020.
and the response is incredible!

maybe this is what we needed in 2022.....

take care everyone! Screenshot 2024-09-05 at 5.13.27 PM.png
 
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MBAir2010 said:
No problem I was a horse's posterior as well and was pompous while replying to you.

I really need some time off here since I do regret using  on everything I run.

anyways:

I just downloaded Sequoia Beta and that is great!
we can now use "new finder window" (sonoma and Ventura left out)
and the music sounds great, more clear and vibrant!
(Peter Gabriel IO)
I just launched the OS 15 minutes ago so I need time to really test this,
the amazing thing is that the beta os is on ssd drive and running to my MacBook Air m1 2020.
and the response is incredible!

maybe this is what we needed in 2022.....

take care everyone!View attachment 2413177
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I am somewhat the same. in terms of wanting a break from Apple, I've used Apple computers since the 80's as a child in school, starting with the Apple //e //c, and IIGS, as well as early macs. I used apple because at the time the mac provided the best accessibility and other features for the visually impaired, and the overall software was great too. So when other platforms such as Linux in the last few years started catching up, it was a breath of fresh air to be able to try other platforms. There will always be things the Mac has that are still better right now, but for me, they don't require the latest version, so a dual boot of Monterey, and Linux would work.I'd rather continue using macOS and other Apple products because I want and choose to, not because I feel forced to because it's my only option. So this is kind of nice for me. If I do well with Linux it opens up the opportunity to build my own computer and have more control over hardware as well, than apple gives these days.
 
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Just like Catalina, there were bugs that were never fixed. Bugs that existed when Catalina was released. Apple just moved on to the next OS the year after and just ignored fixing them. Monterey is the same. It's starting to have issues and Safari is having issues that apple will not fix. Good thing Firefox is still available and constantly updated and fixed. So I use that for websites that will no longer work properly in Safari with Monterey on my old MacBook Air 2017.

Update: I also just did a full wipe of the MBA 2017. This has 8gb RAM and 512GB HD. I did a full erase and reinstall Mac OS. Did not load any backup or sign into iCloud. Safari is still sluggish and some sites like Instagram Reels will just crash Safari. One time watching Youtube it locked up the entire Mac and needed a force reboot. Like I said, at least Firefox works without issue but it sure ramps up the CPU when watching videos on YouTube.
 
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Agree with @frou! Stability and performance are much more valuable than the latest new stuff. My Mac Studio runs the Monterey it was delivered with, and it will stay that way unless/until I have reasonable cause to upgrade. Everything works perfectly and is configured perfectly... if it ain't broke...
 
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Unable to adjust screen brightness after this update. Would my MacBook Air (M1, 2020) be able to handle the latest OS showing as available on my laptop of Sequoia 15.0.1 ? Thanks.
 
I'm trying to find conclusive proof that 12.7.6 will be the very last version of Monterey, but don't see anything at Apple yet. Does anyone know for certain?
 
pullman said:
I'm trying to find conclusive proof that 12.7.6 will be the very last version of Monterey, but don't see anything at Apple yet. Does anyone know for certain?
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Yes, of course it is the last version. Apple never publishes a road map but they only update the most recent and previous two major versions of macOS. So that is 15.x, 14.x, and 13.x. Only the most recent major version is even guaranteed to get all known security fixes.
 
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I'm trying to find conclusive proof that 12.7.6 will be the very last version of Monterey, but don't see anything at Apple yet. Does anyone know for certain?
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According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS_Monterey, MacOS Monterey is "Unsupported as of September 16, 2024", which means no more updates.

The reason it's September 16, 2024 is that this is the release date for Sequoia. This corresponds to Apple's typical policy of ending support for v. N – 3 when v. N is released (though there has been at least one recent exception). In this case, N = 15 (Sequoia), so N – 3 = 12 (Monterey).

Unfortunately, Wikipedia doesn't provide an official reference from apple.com for that unsupport date, nor for that policy. You might be able to find it if you do some searching. Or you could contact Apple.
 
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halledise said:
huge fan of Monterey.
have tried later iterations but keep going back to 12.7.6
i find it simple, clean and fast
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Me too. Tried Ventura, and found its lower-contrast, more washed-out look fatiguing to the eye. Tried Sonoma only briefly, so forgot my impression.

But now that Monterey is unsupported, I need to switch to Sequoia once my university IT team approves it.

Have you tried Sequoia? Given that you're a fellow Monterey fan, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts if you have.
 
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theorist9 said:
Me too. Tried Ventura, and found its lower-contrast, more washed-out look fatiguing to the eye. Tried Sonoma only briefly, so forgot my impression.

But now that Monterey is unsupported, I need to switch to Sequoia once my university IT team approves it.

Have you tried Sequoia? Given that you're a fellow Monterey fan, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts if you have.
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yes i've trialled sequoia - not my cup of tea.
too complex (and gimmicky) for my needs as it has multiple features that i'd rarely, if ever, use.
to each their own …
 
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Thank you. Yes I have seen such statements online but wanted confirmation.

chrfr said:
Yes, of course it is the last version. Apple never publishes a road map but they only update the most recent and previous two major versions of macOS. So that is 15.x, 14.x, and 13.x. Only the most recent major version is even guaranteed to get all known security fixes.
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Thank you. I saw that page too, but I didn't see a reference to a statement so I thought I'd ask. I'm mainly interested in it because I'm likely going to leave my cMP3,1 at Monterey.

theorist9 said:
According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS_Monterey, MacOS Monterey is "Unsupported as of September 16, 2024", which means no more updates.

The reason it's September 16, 2024 is that this is the release date for Sequoia. This corresponds to Apple's typical policy of ending support for v. N – 3 when v. N is released (though there has been at least one recent exception). In this case, N = 15 (Sequoia), so N – 3 = 12 (Monterey).

Unfortunately, Wikipedia doesn't provide an official reference from apple.com for that unsupport date, nor for that policy. You might be able to find it if you do some searching. Or you could contact Apple.
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carylee2002 said:
Sometimes...having the update pass you by is a good thing so Apple won't get into your machine anymore.
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Ha! This made me laugh...
I use a broken iPhone 4s as an iPod for music only (transferred from my desktop's iTunes). No internet, no connection to Apple, but it periodically reminds me to "Log in to Apple ID". At least it gives an Ignore button.
 
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