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Mac OS Monterey (12) no longer supported after the 12.7.6 update?
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My 2017 iMac won’t support Sonoma let alone Sequoia so my Monterey upgrade, if any, is to Ventura. As others have mentioned, its UI is not inspiring me to make the change (I hesitate to call it an upgrade, though I guess it is one). Do others see compelling reasons to go from Monterey to Ventura on a 2017 iMac that frankly is working well for my needs?
@nielshutch, I'm with you 100% on this! I love it when software comes offregular maintenance updates. Then things stop changing, breaking, etc.
I too have an old 4s which I use strictly as an iPod now. Solid as a rock!
I too have an old 4s which I use strictly as an iPod now. Solid as a rock!
Seems to me that support on Cupertino dropped "care" for Monterey instead of support or releasing 12.7.7
after reporting some major silly but annoying and fixable problems (7) with their software programs lately.
i have not heard back from these smug people since reporting this on December 3, 2024.
Monterey is having screen brightness problems as to solve this one must lift the lid after restart.
just staring the MBA M1 will not adjust the brightness on the keyboard.
there is an issue with opening any recent file in "text_edit' as that program crashes every time.
Bluetooth wont send a signal to both Klipsch speakers unless the MBA 1 and mini are restarted.
also there is still a pause after an half an hour while playing a video or music for three to four seconds.
The screen saver takes over the MBA M1 as when i'm typing on "pages" i need to tap the trackpad.
the settings are set never to put the MBA to sleep or launch screen saver.
i gave up on using any airplay from both MBA and MINI M1 with
homepods mini and tv since the connectivity is unreliable.
syncing an iPhone needs three unplugs to launch the device as both phone and MBA are "trusted"
none of these problems occurred in the original launch ofMonterey 12..x to 12.6.9
i guess when you are bigger and worshipped more than that "god" in the sky,
they can get away with any and every thing!
why should they care?
after reporting some major silly but annoying and fixable problems (7) with their software programs lately.
i have not heard back from these smug people since reporting this on December 3, 2024.
Monterey is having screen brightness problems as to solve this one must lift the lid after restart.
just staring the MBA M1 will not adjust the brightness on the keyboard.
there is an issue with opening any recent file in "text_edit' as that program crashes every time.
Bluetooth wont send a signal to both Klipsch speakers unless the MBA 1 and mini are restarted.
also there is still a pause after an half an hour while playing a video or music for three to four seconds.
The screen saver takes over the MBA M1 as when i'm typing on "pages" i need to tap the trackpad.
the settings are set never to put the MBA to sleep or launch screen saver.
i gave up on using any airplay from both MBA and MINI M1 with
homepods mini and tv since the connectivity is unreliable.
syncing an iPhone needs three unplugs to launch the device as both phone and MBA are "trusted"
none of these problems occurred in the original launch ofMonterey 12..x to 12.6.9
i guess when you are bigger and worshipped more than that "god" in the sky,
they can get away with any and every thing!
why should they care?
Support for Monterey ended in September. I wouldn't expect to hear back from about your issues with a OS they no longer support. I've been running 12.7.6 without any issues. It has been a very reliable OS for me. Perhaps updating your M1 to a supported OS will help.
MBP15 2015 15" Retina on MontereyOS (last version that installs natively) and It's fast, reliable and not one crash on any application that I use.
I use Orion as my main browser, and I can install on it Chrome and Firefox extensions. Perhaps Apple could deploy one last version for Monterey, for those who have Intel machines. There is no reason to retire these 'old' Macs so quick.
I use Orion as my main browser, and I can install on it Chrome and Firefox extensions. Perhaps Apple could deploy one last version for Monterey, for those who have Intel machines. There is no reason to retire these 'old' Macs so quick.
My 2017 iMac running Monterey can go one OS further: to Ventura. Have found no compelling reason yet to update but maybe dropping support could do it. Anyone see any other reason to go to Ventura? OSs after Ventura won’t run on the 2017 iMac.
Thanks for the reply,
i will lose features i need like "new window tab browsing" which sonoma and ventura does not perform.
the OS du Anni Sekowya is too much as perhaps the annual updates since Lion burnt me out.
seems to me that sabotaged Monterey so we sheepishly upgrade and spend/waste more money to them
since they wont make a dime from Monterey users as much as 2025OS!
my solution was and is to leave and use an Asus ZenBook computer with windows
since i don't icloud or nned any programs or anything new from them anymore (since 1999).
BTW: i'm tying this on a MBA2010 now using snow leopard, as this is better for me!
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I don't think they sabotaged Monterey, its rock solid for me and from what I read, many others. I also do not enjoy the yearly updates but thats Apple's known OS release schedule. Monterey also ran the same pattern of support as Apple's prior OS releases. If you are having several issues, maybe try wiping your drive and do a clean install of it. I really liked snow leopard, it was one of their best but I'm surprised you can even access the internet with it in 2025!
Good luck, hope you work it out.Thanks, that was a nice message you typed!maybe try wiping your drive and do a clean install of it. I really liked snow leopard, it was one of their best but I'm surprised you can even access the internet with it in 2025!
i wiped both M1s on December 15, 2024 and the snafus or problems still exist.
perhaps for my computing usages and programs
mostly listening to music albums via FLAC,
cant fulfill that anymore.
I'm not sure if I understand correctly your example, but if you uncheck "Open folders in tabs instead of new windows" in Finder settings, it defaults to "Open in New Window".
The shortcut ⌃⌘O (Control+Command+O) opens the folder in another window.
Even if you have checked "Open folders in tabs instead of new windows", holding ⌥ with right-click shows "Open in New Window".
The shortcut ⌃⌘O (Control+Command+O) opens the folder in another window.
Even if you have checked "Open folders in tabs instead of new windows", holding ⌥ with right-click shows "Open in New Window".
Same, Safari works fine for me as well. I also use Opera, also fine, but not Orion so cannot speak to that. Similarly, whatever extensions I use also work. No issues on Monterey v12.7.6 on my 2017 iMac.
Personally except for my m1 laptop that is basically for work only, I have always used oclp and installed the latest on all my other intel Macs, and it does not affect their performance at all. Still enjoyable to use, and using machines that are still very capable to run it.
Answered my own question: TurboTax 2024 will not install on Monterey. Had to update to Ventura to get this to run.
I had the same issue but found that TT 24 will run on windows 10 so I was able to run it in vmware fusion
i found this thread via a Google search. I have a late 2015, 27" iMac, and recently used OCLP 2.4.0 to update to Sonoma. Personally for what I do, I don't see a lot of difference between Monterey, and Sonoma. Also, I use Firefox as my main browser, with Chrome secondary, and Safari third. Everything there is good. The main thing I've noticed is more apps have started dropping Monterey support for the latest updates. With this said, the changes in the latest versions don't seem like I'd be missing anything. However, it is nice to be on a slightly newer OS. I also have Linux installed on an external drive, so I can use that as well.
I'm on a 2015 macbook pro and have been using Monterey for a couple of years. Have considered moving to Sonoma via OCLP but am worried I will have issues. I need a stable OS as I run my business from my mac and need it to be up 24/7. Have you had any problems using Sonoma?
The only real issues on a 2015 Mac would be DRM related with Safari, and native apps such as Prime Video, but using FireFox, or Chrome eliminate those. If you're not doing anything with DRM content, I don't see you having an issue at this time. DRM is an issue with the Apple native stuff because the older graphics drivers are no longer natively bundled with the newer versions of mcOS. You should be able to watch iTunes Apple TV content without issues, as long as you stream it, and don't try to download it. If you do download it, download SD instead of HD, and you shouldn't have DRM related issues there. Everything else just works for me, and the DRM issues for me personally are more of a frustration, of not being able to fix the issue rather than needing it. I use dedicated streamers / TV, or iPhone for content because. they support HDR / multi channel audio while the Mac doesn't.
Edit: Since you probably have a SkyLake CPU in a 2015 model, you have access to AVX2, which will eliminate a lot of issues re3lated to that on older macs that use OCLP that don't have AVX2, and having a metal supported card will also eliminate most issues as well, except the DRM related issues mentioned above.