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Mac OS X 10.3.1 Update

For backup reasons, I keep my music and photo libraries separate anyway, on a different volume (hard drive is partitioned) along with other big stuff I back up onto an external hard drive but not onto DVD-RAM. So none if it's in my home folder, which would probably help keep File Vault manageable. This should really be recommended by Apple.

Come to think of it, I'm STILL amazed that Apple doesn't (a) automatically fix permissions periodically when it does its other cron tasks, (b) fix permissions when upgrading the system, and (c) send e-mails to its known user base (like me) when a MAJOR bug like the Firewire thing comes up.
 
Re: Re: Character Palette bug...

Originally posted by tny
I have US English, Japanese, and a beta of an ancient Greek keyboard installed and on my keyboards menu and never get the character palette unless I ask for it. So no, it's not just that most Americans haven't noticed it.
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You are out of most of americans... feel happy, but first get what I mean ;) ... ohhh BTW, since this morning I've had 4 times my PB sleeping and suddenly that palette is not coming back...
 
Maybe this update will help with my wife's wireless issue on her 15" PB. Anyway she will know for sure after visiting our local Apple Store.
 
Permissions?

Since I'm new to this...

I keep reading references to 'repairing permissions'. How would one know if permissions need to be repaired and what is the simplest/safest way to do it? (Someone mentioned a 3rd party utility that <currently> isn't Panther compatible). Does Apple provide a way to do this?
 
Disk utility

Originally posted by kangaroo
Since I'm new to this...

I keep reading references to 'repairing permissions'. How would one know if permissions need to be repaired and what is the simplest/safest way to do it? (Someone mentioned a 3rd party utility that <currently> isn't Panther compatible). Does Apple provide a way to do this?
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Apple provides the (as far as I know) the ONLY utility for repairing permissions. Run Disk Utility. It is located in Applications:Utilities. Select your disk and repair permissions.

This is #1, #2, and #3 in problem solving. Apple should have this being done automatically as part of the cron things like every week or so and after (and preferably also before) any software update.

Mac forums should have this in their "Before you post!" texts.
 
Where is repair permissions?

Originally posted by Powerbook G5
I've had no problems with crashing since update, did you repair permissions? I ran it and had to repair a few after I updated.
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Where is that located?
 
Repairing Permissions goes back to the Unix foundation which OS X is built upon. Everything on your HD has permissions for read/write and basically using or manipulating files and every once in a while through upgrading, installing, deleting, etc, these permissions are broken and need to be fixed. When permissions aren't like they should be, you can experience odd behavior such as crashing, slowdown, glitches, etc. It's basically recommended that you repair your permissions before or after major installs or upgrades to your software.
 
Disk repair fixes actual corruption or problems with the HD, repairing permissions just fixes inconsistencies with the file permissions. I am not able to explain it as well as some of the more advanced Unix/computer literate users here can since I myself am new to both OS X and Unix itself.
 
The symptoms can be very similar, but a simple way to think of the difference between "Repair Permissions" and "Repair Disk" is this:

Repairing permissions fixes problems with the way certain files are set up on your disk. The files aren't broken, they just aren't "set up" quite right. Repairing a disk fixes problems with the way data is being stored on your disk. In that case, something is actually wrong with the data (or, more accurately, with the way your computer knows where to find it).

Generally speaking, if your computer hasn't crashed or been shut down improperly recently (power outage) repairing the disk should rarely be necessary; disk corruption issues that it might fix are much rarer now than they used to be. Enabling Journaling (which is enabled by default on your startup drive with 10.3) makes these sorts of problems even more uncommon.

Fixing permissions is, however, much more necessary at this stage of OSX's evolution. Generally a good idea to run it any time you install new software.

And about the Character Palette issue: I've got Japanese and English enabled on three different accounts on two different computers, and I've never once had it pop up when I didn't ask for it. And I might add that the Character Palette is, for someone semi-versed in Japanese but not a native speaker, possibly the most useful addition to the OS EVER. Like a dictionary and a half, built in, and 10.3 makes selecting pretty fonts with it even easier.

Long Live Character Palette!
 
repair permissions

i have one question about repairing permissions - in disc utility i can select 2 icons for my Ti's lone HD, one on top with the manufacturer's name (i think) and one under that with the name i've given it. i get more options if i select the top icon, but the verify/repair permissions buttons are clickable no matter which icon i select. does it make any difference which icon i click for repairing permissions?
 
Forgot to mention that the same thing that Disk Utility's "Repair Disk" does is run automatically at startup if your computer didn't shut down properly, so there's almost no reason to run it manually--I've never once seen it come up with any problems.
 
Originally posted by Makosuke
Forgot to mention that the same thing that Disk Utility's "Repair Disk" does is run automatically at startup if your computer didn't shut down properly, so there's almost no reason to run it manually--I've never once seen it come up with any problems.
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That use to be true for 10.2 but now with 10.3 the standard installation has Journaling turned on by default. Due to journaling there is no reason for disk repair to be run at all. So basically with 10.3 if you have a system crash and a force restart it will not be run because it is unnecessary.
 
Re: repair permissions

Originally posted by Ambrose Chapel
i have one question about repairing permissions - in disc utility i can select 2 icons for my Ti's lone HD, one on top with the manufacturer's name (i think) and one under that with the name i've given it. i get more options if i select the top icon, but the verify/repair permissions buttons are clickable no matter which icon i select. does it make any difference which icon i click for repairing permissions?
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No it does not matter as long as you have the option to do the repair.
 
For the Pismoheads

Just upgraded to 10.3.1 in my Pismo 500. Previously owned no haxies or skins, not filevault enabled. In the first reboot the login window took its sweet time to appear and I was expecting the worst. I logged in, reboot again and everything is cool as usual. Despite some comments on Expose degradation after 10.3.1, I notice no difference. It kicks azz (is that word censored?) as usual with iTunes, iPhoto, Mail, Safari and Yahoo applications open. I hope it helps to low the new-upgrade-oh-my anxiety syndrome in fellow Pismo heads.
 
Thanks...

Thanks for all the info on permissions. :D

I'm just ran 'Verify Permissions' and, to my surprise, it generated quite a list of problems--'Permissions differ on ...' etc.

I think someone else mentioned it but...why doesn't the OS do this in the background? To use a harddrive analogy--it's like the system is capable of identifying bad sectors but waits for me to ask it to do it. In the mean time, the system may attempt to write to that bad sector--with nasty consequences. Seems illogical. :rolleyes:
 
Re: Thanks...

Originally posted by kangaroo
Thanks for all the info on permissions. :D

I'm just ran 'Verify Permissions' and, to my surprise, it generated quite a list of problems--'Permissions differ on ...' etc.

I think someone else mentioned it but...why doesn't the OS do this in the background? To use a harddrive analogy--it's like the system is capable of identifying bad sectors but waits for me to ask it to do it. In the mean time, the system may attempt to write to that bad sector--with nasty consequences. Seems illogical. :rolleyes:
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It's suppose to do so starting with 10.2 it was supposedly suppose to repair permissions on startup. I think Apple takes the same line of logic that I do that you can't do a proper repair without starting up off the install CD. Even if you do a repair from your active system/drive I recommend restarting afterwards.
 
As a long time Unix geek the fact that there is even a "repair permissions" button befuddles me. Permissions shouldn't change if software is written correctly. No other *nix based system has this kind of issue.


Can someone explain, since I'm fairly new to Apple stuff, why they get screwed up?
 
Originally posted by beerguy
As a long time Unix geek the fact that there is even a "repair permissions" button befuddles me. Permissions shouldn't change if software is written correctly. No other *nix based system has this kind of issue.


Can someone explain, since I'm fairly new to Apple stuff, why they get screwed up?
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You're as confused as I believe the rest of us are. I've been looking for an explanation about this since we all learned you needed to repair permissions 2 years ago. I think at this point Apples the only who really knows but they aren't talking.
 
There's only one reason I can see that permissions would be incorrect.

When the software is put into a package for distribution, they've used an account with custom authorities which is not available to the machine on which the software is being installed.

When the software is installed, it says something like "user account not found--defaulting" and the default does not have proper authorities. I would think that it would just do a chown to the current user or administrator, but that might be too precise. ;)
 
10.3.1

Before the update countless apps were crashing, including essential apps like Office and Photoshop. Updated and now the system is stable. Thank you Apple.
 
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